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The no calling out rule is okay with me. If you ever want to report someone, why would you report him in the chat/forum? (Which would be calling out.) Instead, submit a support ticket.
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you have plenty of sites DESIGNATED for warning others (steamrep for example), sites that not like SG have a bunch of stuff that can look deep into each case and decide if you just are making things up to destroy someone's reputation or really are up to something. Why do we need it on SG, when SR is working just fine, and looking on SG Forum Format (and for example no advanced search, searching user comments etc) it would simply work much much worse?
Not to mention the fact that someone may be falsely calling you out. I go to your profile and see that ypou won a lot of GAs without contributing much? I'm jelous! So I will post a topic caling out for being a scammer! How do you want to tell which calling outs are just and which are false?
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Just like a week ago I had some crazy Russian who's English was even worse than mine writing all over my Steam profile for a couple of hours that I tried to purchase his Steam account, scammed him and took it over. And he wouldn't listen that if someone tried to scam him it was someone who was impersonating me.
I mean, what the fuck, does my Steam profile look like I was in desparate need of games or what? If such stuff was suddenly allowed to post on SG, it would turn immidietely into some clusterfuck.
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Guys, stop calling the OP out about him saying the rule is stupid, it's breaking the rules to call him out.
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Some old copypasta
There have been several cases of "obviously fake" giveaways turning out to be perfectly legitimate. There is no PROOF this giveaway is fake. You can speculate and make assumptions, but we don't know that it's not real until the gift has been marked as "Not Received". Only then do we delete the giveaway (refunding everyone's points) and suspend the user.
One recent example I can think of is http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/i9GxW/dead-rising-2-complete-pack. User signed up, and immediately created a $40 giveaway for a game she didn't own. Everyone hit the report button, some idiots even called out on the giveaway page. Guess what? It turned out to be real. And now she's an awesome, generous member of this site.
We gave her a terrible first impression of our community by questioning her giveaway, her intelligence, her generosity. Luckily she responded before more "FAKE" comments were piled on.
What if she didn't respond in the comments, and the mods deleted her giveaway? Wouldn't you be upset if that was you?
There has been plenty of other cases like this. Even I was called out on my first giveaway.
We will never delete a giveaway just because it's made by a new user. If they say "I'm sorry, I didn't understand how this works", or the description says "You gift me this game", or something along those lines, we will we delete it. But otherwise they're given the benefit of the doubt.
We see all your reports. We're not ignoring them. We see you constantly breaking the rules about calling out, sometimes we DO ignore that, even though we shouldn't. But you all need to cut that shit out.
http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/wG2mC/max-payne-3
http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/HQDdq/xcom-enemy-unknown
http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/P7Rlq/call-of-duty-world-at-war
http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/6sL6H/call-of-duty-black-ops-ii
http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/b8a0C/counter-strike-complete
http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/QgWxl/sleeping-dogs
http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/lpR06/borderlands-2
http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/w2O8A/bioshock-infinite
http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/kQFF8/sleeping-dogs
http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/kIaKf/red-orchestra-2-heroes-of-stalingrad-goty
http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/xHnSK/red-orchestra-2-heroes-of-stalingrad-goty
http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/3EiSv/bioshock-infinite
Foxpile is not an isolated case. New users, first giveaway, not in library/inventory, blah blah blah. People called fake. Sometimes the gifter answered, sometimes not. But they all sent gifts. I could find more but don't want to waste any more time with this.
New users will always be given the benefit of the doubt. That's not going to change. All the reasons are you listed are excellent reason to SUSPECT a giveaway might not be legitimate, but does not PROVE it. Click the little report button, or send in a ticket, and move on with your life. Don't enter if you think it's fake. Or give it a shot. If it's fake, you'll get your free, constantly renewing Points back anyway. Don't waste your energy talking about a giveaways legitimacy and risk a suspension.
/old copypasta
Note: The user I was speaking to is now permanently suspended because he just couldn't help himself and continued to call out on suspicious giveaways.
That being said, I have been bending this lately and deleted some of the more obvious cases of not understanding how the site works. How do I locate those giveaways? I go to my "Reported Giveaways" screen and see the giveaways that people have clicked on the "Report this giveaway" button the most.
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What percentage of calling out suspensions would you estimate are a direct result of posting that a giveaway is fake?
Edit: Versus, say, calling out a scammer, positively referring to someone (for example in the "who is the nicest person on steamgifts" thread), etc.
Basically, in cases other than fakes and perhaps scammers, this rule seems to be very, very subjective. I say perhaps, because scammer callouts usually have nothing to do with this site anyways.
Edit 2: I edited the first time before I read your reply :P
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... most of them? It's usually that or "Hey look this guy tried to scam me!", with copy/pasted text or unedited screenshot, which is useless in case of a warning and harmful in case of impersonation because it takes two seconds to change display name/avatar.
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You can get called out for many different things mon, not only for scamming / fake GA. And there is always no way to tell if the person calling out isn't manipulating, so im 100% for this rule. I've been falsely called out myself by people who got angry for being on my blacklist for example. And if you have something to tell about anyone, that he is a scammer or sth - what can you get from posting it on public forum? Especially SG forum without proper search functions, linking to users comments etc? If you report it to support they can deal with it. If you post it in public you will only cause drama, arguments, you may even be accusing someone innocent destroying his/her reputation. And in the end the only thing you can get is the same - some support member will notice your topic, review your evidence and eventually suspend a user - same as he would if you just posted a ticket. Just in this case you get suspended as well.
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On a completely unrelated note...Who else thinks the rule on calling people out is stupid?
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