If at least one person saw this specific post and he isn't going to launder money, I succeeded doing what I wanted to do.
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I disagree. While giving money to charity is an option, the bundles are made to make some cash for the devs.
Plus, you can donate to charities all the time. you don't need to wait for a bundle for that.
So if you want to donate to charity, you don't need the humble bundles for that :).
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Do you even realize why they've had to enact the "stupid system?"
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yes, cause of traders. But that hurts the legitimate users who are giving keys that they already own to other people.
And if you're gonna argue with their ToS, then fuck them. They started with DRM-free games, then started adding steam keys + drm free. lately, only steam keys, and TODAY? Steam account only. Isn't it ironic that they started with DRM-Free and now embracing the concepts of DRM?
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Its a shame really, I honestly think they are trying to do the right thing but in a word full of jerks, its kinda hard.
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Why? gift urls still work, they just want you to keep the bundles whole, like you agreed to in their Terms of Service.
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Because although they provide an easy mechanism for trades (gift urls) people still abused the system and didn't use it.
Now you're forced to do what they asked you (and you agreed to) all along.
Really is a lot of fuss about nothing.
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And the beauty of Gift Urls is you can test if they are already claimed, unlike steam keys.
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I think they made you claim a key using an account instead of using 1 key for all of the games is to let you let your friends / family redeem the games you already own by logging in into their Steam accounts. This way they can enforce you to make a personal use of your keys only instead of trading them.
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As I said, I believe that when they say "Personal Use" they mean that you may use the keys for yourself and family/friends. you are not allowed to monetize the games by reselling them.
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But they won't.
If you want to find out, you can ask the support.
I'm sure they will tell you exactly what you can or can't.
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I just hope others don't follow. With all the games I have, I either do a no-profit sale of the rest of the pieces of a bundle or I give them away. It isn't even going to be worth buying a bundle for one or two games, anymore. I already had to mostly stop buying most Humble Bundle BTAs because of the single key thing. If the price can no longer beat 75% off, for the games I get, it just isn't worth it. I'll still probably keep buying $1 tiers, if I see a game I don't have. If other places start up with this, I am going to be skipping an awful lot of them.
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I'm not sure, I don't think any other bundle site does that.
But still, complain about them providing you great games for just 1$?
No other bundle site does it, they do have some bundles, but not as great as these. (my opinion)
And I don't see a problem with this linking, you agreed to TOS altho most of us haven't read it. If you complain that probably means you were violating it.
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Even though that you are arguing that these games are just for 1$, the fact that I already own 4 out of 6 games in 1$ means the bundle's value downgrades down to 33 cents since I can only redeem those games that I don't own AND CANNOT GIVEAWAY THOSE 4 already owned games.
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That is in fact correct, but, still, none of the games they have there even on -75% in steam store are below 1$.
And yet again, it's against TOS to giveaway those games. If everyone gifted keys they don't need, not as many copies would be bought.
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Well, I don't know really, I just said it as possibility.
But look at it this way:
Bundle, like the one with SR3 DLCs and Dead Island GOTY. How about I buy it just for the Dead Island GOTY, and my friend wants DLCs and not Dead Island? So, if they were seperate keys, I would have activated Dead Island and gave SR3 DLCs key to my friend. We are happy, but it's 1 purchase. Now when it's unique, if friend wanted those DLCs he would need to buy the bundle which would equal 2 purchases.
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The bundle isn't worth 33 cents. It's worth 6 games, or in your case, 2 games. The question is whether you are willing to afford $1 for the 2 games you don't have.
But I agree, it's a pretty major issue to be cheated out of God knows how many cents. Maybe you should go to the charities this is intended to support and demand your lost bundle value back.
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Sadly, I lack both the skill and the dedication to make you see my point of view, but I suspect you don't consider it a great loss, so it evens out.
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Shoo. Go participate in a giveaway or something. Don't kick a man when he's down.
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Again restricting you to the TOS you agreed to. "I agree not to split or resell bundles... omg they are preventing me from from splitting bundles"
Seriously, if you feel you aren't getting value for money for that $1/$6, then don't buy.
Personally I'm all for it, it'll hopefully encourage more THQ/EA/Deep Silver bundles, instead of whatever the hell the currently weekly is.
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yes, I'm seriously not gonna buy it. If I'm paying something that I i'm only getting 37.5% of it, then no tnx.
Good for you supporting these anti-consumer measures. Looks like HIB has been infected with these greedy publisher practices (just like you listed)
YAY for hib implementing greedy publisher practices for future " indie" bundles
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I agree with this post of yours, though I am still going to buy these bundles because it benefits me.
These restriction are not too bad at the moment, in my opinion.
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Yeha, I thought about it too ^^.
This way they can know which account has activated specific games,
and these games will just be deleted from the user's account.
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I don't mind the new system. What's with all the hate ?
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We can't trade our unused games from now and on.
even though it's a bit annoying we can't complain since it was against their ToS from the beginning.
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Odd I've bought bundles from friends for 2 keys or less because I don't have a credit card and they didn't steal theres.. hmm maybe they just didn't get your memo.
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Of course it's not, how can you not believe them?!
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hahaha we will Blackwell Deception from now one ^^
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No, no peoplez do that to be friendlyz traderz. That iz like an ever-lastingz christmaz of nize people.
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While I'm aware that this is a discussion thread, the title shows as if it's a trade thread. I'm closing this thread for now, if you want it to be reopened, contact support.
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Before raging about me breaking the rules,
I just want to let you know that this thread is made to warn people who help launder money without them knowing.
So for those who came here for the deal, here's a better one;
Please, just pirate the games instead.
Why? because this way you will cause less harm.
Please think logically. Why would any one buy a 6$ Bundle and sell it for a lot less?
There are no ways to get the bundle cheaper then 6$.
Traders who sell these BTA bundles for 2 TF2 keys or around
that price are using stolen credit cards.
When you buy from them you simply help them launder the money they stole.
When you pirate the game, the devs don't get any money.
When you buy these fraud bundles the devs don't any money and someone else loses his own money.
You help a thief launder his money and fill the scum with cash.
So if you decide to buy these 2 TF2 keys BTA bundles, don't.
You will save your own money as well.
Please don't be confused; When you buy a tradeable copy from a Russian trader he buys the copy legitimately.
Steam CIS store has cheaper prices than the rest of the world.
Thanks for reading and have a nice day.
Number of people who added me to trade: 3
NumberOfStupidPeopleWhoDon'tCareAboutThisAndJustWantToHaveTheGamesOnSteamAndSpendMoneyOnStolenGames: 1
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