I'm interested in protecting users, not protecting the interest of corporations. Adblocking applications are great. In some cases, yes they will do harm where ads are non intrusive, non offensive and are there to keep the site online. But I say that's just a spit in the sea.
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You do realize that those users work in prenominate corporations, don't you?
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You obviously haven't read it.
You also missed my point. Which was that Evil Corporations are not living organisms and that they give jobs to people.
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Yeah, it's like making a judgement about Mozart by hearing someone whistling his music.
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Disable Adblock! That pays out great for lawyers:
source :D
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I've followed that story since a few days and i'm loving it so far, really nice idea ^^
But wait, there's more:
Those people didn't even visit Redtube. They were directed to "retdube.net" by Trafficholder, a service that directs visitors of your site to another paying customer of Trafficholder. retdube.net tracked the ip and directed the user to Redtube ^^
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Who's he and why should we care about his opinion?
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really? Bill hicks is a gift to the world. Not just a comic but also gives wonderful incite into the world. Here's a great skit.
Though he has passed on.
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Colour me unimpressed. The insight in these two videos is but shallow.
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Well, grandpa, you mistake eccentricity for genius.
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It's what follows this. . hicks was lots of things but far from shallow. Most comedians swear to Hicks or Bruce.
He died shortly after this video was made
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Adblock is ALLOWING ACCEPTABLE ADS by default since long before. If that ad is all text, in not annoying position and marked properly, the host can ask ABP to make an exception. So when someone complains I should stop using ABP in order to support him or something, I would say STFU and adjust your ads to make them acceptable by ABP, or hack through it.
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I'm annoyed with pop-ups mostly. Yeah, it's not much and not even for long (speaking about yt now) but if I have to click to close them or else it'll flash on the bottom of the screen, well that wrecks it for me, especially if it's just a few minutes long silly video for example.
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AD Block is a double edged sword. Sure it blocks ads. But imagine watching your favorite show on TV and everyone can skip the adds for the program. Then they learn that the show was canceled because of lack of revenue. This also can easily happen to your favorite YouTube channels or streamers on Twitch (etc). They might stop posting videos (or streaming) because it is no longer in their best interest to do so since they have to survive some how.
So yes you are blocking adds that free up some time but you might be shortening your long term entertainment without realizing it. Use ad block wisely.
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What I hate about ads, mostly from big companies like google, is how they track everything you do to try to show relevant ads. Also 90% of the ads are annoying and fake and scammy, like "you won a free ipad*" or "you are the visitor number 1000000", or those marketing gurus that only sell marketing courses but dont apply shit of what they sell.
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Honestly Google doesn't need ads to track people, people spend so much time on Google owned websites that Google basically knows everything about them. Every google search you make, every YouTube video you watch, every email you get/receive on gmail, everything you post on google+, what you search for on google maps, what you translate in google translate and so on.
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No, the bad thing its all the malware coming from ads that adblock... well, blocks.
On Youtube? Don't really care because what the youtubers don't get from me through ads they get it from me by buying their merchandising.
And now that I think about it the Youtubers I follow (PewDiePie, SeaNanners, the guys from RoosterTeeth, iJustine, and not really gamer but TomSka) all of them sell merchandising. So: better 0'1cents from me viewing an ad or near 20 bucks from a shirt once in a while?
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its a good thing.. but sites do need money.. but its possable(but verry unlikely) there is malicious ads on legitimate websites that download malware ect just cause you went to the website that the ad was displayed, also when you go to download things there is sometimes ads that say "DOWNLOAD HERE" that confuse you into clicking them, proceeding to download malware, spyware, viruses, ect... so keep it on when downloading mods and stuff... also sometimes theres really annoying ads(like video ads that stop you from watching the youtube video or stop you from getting to the flash game quicker) that just waste your time... i would gladly block those ads, but not the ones on the side of the video cause i can trust youtube
on youtube i mainly enable adblock because often i want to take a quick look at the video to see if its the right episode of a video game tutorial ect. but on youtube channels i like and watch regularly i turn it off.
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Adblock gives control to the consumer. It is up to you if you want to support the content you like.
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I might have limited knowledge of how ad revenue works for website owners, but I'm under the impression that they don't get paid for the ads unless I click on them. I never, ever click on adlinks, even at sites I visit regularly. How am I denying website owners potential revenue by using Adblock if I'm not an adlink-clicker to begin with?
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I can understand it for people who have very stricly limited internet vol. But not for the normal user. Not everything in life is for free and, i mean, costs for watching a website is even worse than some ads at the end of the page, no?
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+1
If we didn't have a pay-to-play model, we wouldn't be here on this site, or damn near anywhere else we enjoy frequenting online.
I don't understand how folks don't understand that. Advertising, in most cases (there are certainly abuses) is the price we pay for not paying up front. I never have a problem with paying admission, or being subjected to ads. I sometimes have problems with doing both.
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Would you pay 5 cents every time you visit a website?
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I consider freedom of choice to be a good thing. With Ad-Block, I have the choice of viewing an ad or not. Without it, I do not.
As for Ad-Block+, it can go play in traffic. (I don't like the changes.)
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AdBlock is a must, cause ad's are the most obnoxious thing ever, they can put it anywhere and anyhow and include the whole lot of troyans and such things and there is no regulations for it, atleast the working ones. On the other hand i would like to whitelist sites like SG, but i just don't know how to do it in the AdBlock Plus for FF... Figured out how, whitelisted my fav sites!
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I run adblock plus, but i let it show the non-intrusive ads. If a site wants to throw ads at me then they can change the types of ads they run to follow the rules for that, i was sick and tired of going to sites and having video ads popping up with no mute button and no way to stop them and the big banner ads that drop down and cover half the screen with a tiny x in the corner to minimize them that rarely ever actually works. Another reason i use adblock is to get rid of the share this popup things that pop up whenever your mouse goes over them that just about every site insists on putting up all over the place, the adblock social filter list is the only thing i have found that reliably blocks those.
As for ads on youtube, i have had issues in the past with ads breaking the videos after an they play. Most of the channels i watch make most of their money through other means, I do feel bad for the smaller channels that rely on the ads in the videos, but there isn't much i can do when the ads give me issues with being unable to watch the videos.
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I like your approach. It's a very reasonable one, and the kind of ideal that would change internet advertising to a reasonable better.
Make ads that are unobtrusive, and don't interfere terribly with the content and reasonable people are less apt to grab ad block. My wife is pretty laid back about these things, but does use ad block for similar reasons to you.
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It was mentioned in the "PSA YouTube is saying a big FU to gamers" thread but the whole thread was so chaotic that I had a really hard time following people's opinion.
Personally I have never used adblock before not because I hate it but more like I never care to get it or look up where can I get the app. Now I have seen so many arguments about adblock being the paladin of the internet protecting users from harmful entities called ads, I'm getting really curious about adblock now. So...is adblock bad or good? A little more details about what it does and how it does would be helpful too.
I know this thread might appear redundant since the issue was also discussed in the other thread so I am willing to remove this one if the majority are not comfortable with my thread.
Edit: also, is 30s of ad before a youtube video that bad? I sometimes enjoy those ads too. I do not defend advertisements in general but it ain't that atrocious.
Edit (again): A piece of my mind, could be wrong but I love to hear your point on this: ads take from users nothing except space on the website + tolerance so there is zero monetary value a user have to pay from seeing an app but the website owner(s) would get some. It is not bad of a deal if you ask me but is it still too much for internet users?
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