will you get the covid vaccine?
Yeah, that's kind of where I was on that one. Let those with a foolish outlook take themselves out...less work for those of us who understand science and statistics to have to convince the hoi polloi to do the right thing the next time around. ;)
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Now I'm left wondering whether my late father was weak or stupid. Can I at least hope that you're really, really young, oh wise one?
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Welcome to my perm Blacklist.
Everyone who can get it, Should. We must protect those who cannot be protected via a shot or who can't get it easily. Its so easy for most of us to get a shot. Its immoral to not get it. Over 7.5 Billion shot have been given so far. Anyone who thinks its not safe is an idiot.
Those claiming religions exceptions are NOT religious. I grew up Christian. Any Christian church granting these are NOT Christian. They have lost all morals.
The only exception is medical. And those are very rare. Any doctor handing those out without valid cause should be fired.
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Agreed, thats why I said there are those who can't get it easily. I don't blame them. I blame those who can get the shot but don't. My point was thats its been proven as safe as any other vaccine many times over.
Yes, we do need to further help those poor countries who have not yet gotten shots. But that does not mean putting myself at risk to do so. I personally know 2 dead, 1 who barely recovered after being in a comma, 2 more that got very sick and ended up in the hospital and 2 more also very sick but not in the hospital. None of them had shots but had plenty of opportunity to do so. How many others did they spread it to? It is terrible. I have family I will never respect ever again.
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yeah but the result is not as good as you think for you :/ @Vulcann
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I've been going to get the third booster shot for some time now, but something keeps happening - from emergency babysitting for my niece to me catching a cold. I hope that I'll finally get inoculated next week.
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We are advised to get re-vaccinated in 6-9 months after the first inoculation, and my first inoculation happened in March, so it's time.
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The resistance is lowered after 6-9 months. I got the third one back in August, and I may get a fourth in December if they let me. The shot itself was really rough for me, I was also so stressed about moving to college so that just made all the symptoms worse but it is a lot better than covid. I know kids who literally got heart murmurs, epilepsy, and asthma from Covid even though they had mild symptoms. Long covid is really bad as well and I just can't really risk that.
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The vaccines are not that safe as well unfortunately. Well, obviously considerably safer than covid itself, but still. My mother ended up with a micro-clot in her eye, it broke off, now she sees something that she describes as a little cloud all the time. According to her ophthalmologist, clots are a fairy common side effect of Sputnik, the main vaccine here in Russia (and officially, of course, it has no side effects whatsoever aside from minor ones that pass in a day or two after an injection).
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I mean I got pfizer so that's not common. Additionally, I always find death due to not being vaccinated much worse than any potential side effects from the vaccine. But again, I'm not in Russia, I'm in the US so I think there's just differences there.
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I think your skepticism is fine in the same way that my insistence that people take this pandemic seriously (because one of my uncles straight up died to it in the early stages of the pandemic) is fine. Both our positions are reasonable given our experiences and honestly, it's better to blame one specific vaccine instead of the doctors, some global medical conspiracy, or the entire science of vaccines.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'm sorry for your loss, take your time to figure things out.
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Oh i am taking corona very seriously, i left a job experience thing because a direct coworker and the boss weren't taking it seriously.
And i waited till 2 pfizers to semi get out again, although i really hated the mouth masks because it gives me troubles breathing.
We were just promised freedom if everyone would get their shot, and since a bunch won't take their vaccin, we are still going into a semi lockdown and 2g now, and we might still not go back to "normal" (if ever) till atleast feburary.
Where people already had enough of corona after 1 year, i just think i am also now in that situation after 2 years, enough is enough, not to mention just having to keep hearing about it each day and day in talk shows. and also both anti and pro sides just constantly fighting over eachother, comparing it to WW2 (having to wear a david star vs a qr check is just sickening).
But we don't really know what possible side effects any vaccin might still have except after time, don't we?
I think even though it might be rare, that there could be some bad side effects for a small group of people (there was also a story about people getting blood clots, might be rare, so is winning the jackpot, but it happens for people).
Sorry for your loss too.
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Heh, I sort of know the feeling given that I'm asthmatic (the masks became an issue during some particularly bad times at my internship but overall I found going out nicer for my lungs with them on). Anyway, I just tend to ignore those people whenever I can at this point. I'm currently in a pretty bad place right now (as I can imagine you are in right now) and I realized early on that listening to those same people that denied everyone the freedom we were promised is really not a good idea right now. They're trying to sow doubt and create self-fulfilling prophecies and I am not in a space where I should be listening to people I do not trust even when I'm in a good state of mind.
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Things can be a lot better too yeah (just last week i read 2 stories even though there are a lot of jobs, companies won't hire you if you are on wellfare longer then a year..) and that's just 1 example.
Real best way is to just completely shut yourself off from any media (paper and tv), but yeah..
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I personally get my flu shot every year, one more vaccine isn't going to be that big of a deal to me. Sure vaccines aren't 100% safe but without them, you are up to 11x more likely to die of covid. Meanwhile, the pfizer/j&j/moderna vaccines have only like a 1/100,000 to 1/1,000,000 chance of actually developing any serious side effects and no deaths have been directly linked (in the USA) to vaccines.
I would 100% rather get bad side effects from a yearly or bi-yearly vaccine than die of covid. Any day.
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But with it going down after 6-9 months, and if you get a third within 1 year, it's not gonna be yearly or bi yearly, more like 2 times a year. I dunno when you had your second, but if you get your fourth in december, that would be 4 in 1 year?
And it's often hard to tell if someone had side effects (and died) from a vaccin or not, it's not like they gonna investigate each and every person that had a vaccin and died of the causes, often it's gonna just be described to bad health.
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I get your point but unless there are massive waves of vaccinated people dying, it's not worth worrying over.
Don't get me wrong, any and each death is tragic but it's a cha7we take every time we take any meds, cross the street or get into a bus, a car or a plane.
Nobody wants to be a statistic or to be in the 0,001% who get the rare side effect of any meds but if it's not a significant percentage, better not think about it or we'd stop living.
Sure we have a short perspective on the vaccines but we have 2 years worth of perspective on the virus and we know it kills, and not just a few unlucky ones. So better think about it in terms of risk/reward.
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The chances are low true, but if it does affect someone close to you, then you won't care about statistics.
Sure my dad was weak already, but i am not convinced his vaccin had anything to do with his passing or not, if it's known that it can f.e cause heart problems (it said so in the youtube comments this guy necroed) but you can also just google it, when my dad was already a heart patient to begin with (plus other things) it does raise atleast an eyebrow or that a radiologist died the same day of heart problems after he got his second shot, it does raise atleast an eyebrow.
Although i am seeking causes anywhere, up to the fights we had.
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Short term yes, but not neccessarily in the long run..
I´m no medical professional of any sort, but the problem afaik is not our individual health, be it yours or mine. The pandemic sword of Damocles seems to be the systemic overflow of healthcare and the threat of diverse domino effects coming along with that.
CoVid´s gonna stay and people will die of it, that´s never gonna change again. The challenge is "to get it settled" in the least damaging way.
For instance to my knowledge in Austria, where I live, usually several thousand people die to influenza every year during winter, which is not really talked about and, as I understand it, pretty much the same all over the world where that virus is active. Last year due to CoVid restrictions there was 1 reported case!
Now Influenza has been around for a 100 years or so and is what I call "settled", meaning practically everybody has been in contact with it at some point and it has already done its "evolutionary" handywork, if you want to call it that.
So in my guesstimate with CoVid, thanks to science, we´ll go for shots for the next 2 -5 years, until the virus has gotten around, done it´s worst, and can´t cause any pandemic anymore
I survived swallowing the Polio stuff, hope my luck hasn´t run out yet ; 9
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Got two half year ago, now I will wait few weeks for third, since I got some cold or flu lately.
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Just got my booster this afternoon. Waiting to see if I get symptoms with this one the way I did with the 2nd (Moderna). But even if I do...no big deal, just power through it for 6-18 hours. It's a small price to pay to have a >90% resistance to Delta.
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got my first shot in october and will get the second one at the end of november.
wasn't able to get it earlier and / or didn't feel like getting it earlier due to pregnancy and the weakness after childbirth. my husband got his in june and august
but we have been practicing social distancing very well... so me and my family is doing fine :)
for now we are actually more scared of herpes than covid due to its riskiness to babies
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It took a while, but I got both of my vaccines a couple of weeks ago. I felt fine during both of them. The first shot made my arm sore, but nothing else than that.
I've also had covid and survived it. I believe medicine and science can help us, but I will not jump right away once something shows on the market out of fear. Make your judgment carefully and stay safe.
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