Dunno about the price as i dont live in Turkey but everything seems like a decent Gaming rig, and about Micro ATX boards there is not really any downsides other than less features than what you can get on a ATX motherboard. Your case should have fine enough ventilation to handle it so i would say go for it :3
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Well if you just gonna play games than you dont really need to overclock as most games max use 60-70% of that CPU :)
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By better I didn't mean more wattage, I meant a more reliable PSU than the cheap CX series.
Can you list the store(s) where your buying the parts from?
Just to make sure if you can afford a better computer and get a more reliable power supply.
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I'will buy from a store called Vatan Computer
When you click the link you'll go to psu page. You can check other brands and models there but sadly no english support on the site. :(
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a i5 4670 would be perfect, not worth to spend money for i7 for gaming.
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If you're not going to overclock, you should definitely consider Xeon E3-1230 V3. It's an un-overclockable i7-4770 without an integrated GPU and costs as much as i5 CPUs.
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You could maybe invest in a low-end GPU then? In Finland they cost about 40€, but can't run games very well.
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HD 4600 is terribad. Also, Micro ATX, you will regret it later.
Also, you won't have much room to work with when you have only 200 gigs.
And the PSU is fine. I'm on a AMD Athlon II X2 270 (Dual Core 3.5 Ghz, going for a FX-6300), a AMD Radeon HD 7770 and many other equipment attached to the mobo, and I have a 500W PSU. No power problem.
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I will buy GTX760 or GTX770 a few months later. I don't have enough budget now.
2 of my friends are using hd 4600 and they can play CS:GO and DotA 2 with high settings. That's be enough for me now. :)
I will add me old 1TB hard drive to this build. I'll use SSD for os, most played games and apps. Won't 250gb will be enough for this?
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I have a 1 TB (Internal) HDD, and I've already used 500 Gigs from it, and my other 500 GB HDD, which has 200 gigs used. Only games, and I play each and every one.
Intel graphics have never been good. And I can play on high with a 8MB GPU. I will still lag.
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I would go for the i5-3570k, but thats just personal preference. That CPU is not bad either.
But i would get a motherboard a bit better, like the Asrock B85 Killer or the Asus P8H77-V LE, because they have VRM cooling.
But if it was really me, i would buy AMD CPU and GPU. Cheaper and will performe the same. And the money you save on the CPU can go thowards a better GPU, like the R9 280X or the R9 290X.
Also, why the sdd on an semi-budget build? An WD Black should be enough.
BTW, i am currently running: AMD FX-8320@ 4Ghz 1.3v, M5A97 R2.0, 8gb 1600mhz, HD7850 @ 1Ghz and OCZ 500W PSU.
I can play everything on 1080p with no problems, but i guess i should have gotten a slightly better GPU.
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If your HD 7850 is "not as good", is my HD 7770 a piece of shit then?
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You are right but i don't have enough money to afford gpu at the moment so i want to go with hd 4600 for a few months. Intel hd 4600 can run CS:GO and DotA 2 with high settings. This will be enough for me until i get a gpu.
My old laptop is so slow and noisy. I want a quiet and fast hard drive so i wanted to get SSD as main storage. I also have old Maxtor 1TB external hard drive. I'll insert in in 3.5" drive slot and use it as storage.
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you will be able to play the same games with an fx-6 or fx-8 and they are much cheaper than the i5's or i7.
100$ less on cpu means 100$ you can spend on gpu, the most important hardware for gaming.
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post you budget and sites of stores on your area and i can have a look around and make you a build or two
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Thanks for your help mate. I think i won't overclock so there is no need for K series CPU or Z series mobo. :)
Here are the sites: Vatan Computer and Inventus
Edit: My budget is 850$=1800 TL
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google translator is not working on those pages, and they dont have an english version.
but prices should be almost the same as in other countries, so i will just do 2 build on another site and then you check your sites to make sure the prices are not much higher.
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In my country i can get a full build INCLUDING a GTX770 for 1160$, and for 670$ WITHOUT the GPU.
The build is:
Cooler: CoolerMaster Hyper212 Evo 58$
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 50$
SSD: Plextor SSD 128GB 200/520 PX-128M5S 109$
CPU: AMD FX-6350 3900 AM3+ BOX | "Vishera" 173$
RAM: Crucial 8GB 1600-11 Crucial 95$
GPU: Inno3D GeForce GTX 770 iChill HerculeZ X3 Ultra 2048 MB 488$
PSU: LEPA MAXBRON 700W 112$
Board: MSI 760GMA-P34 (FX) 73$
This is the budget build. I will also do a better build and edit this coment to include it.
Better build (800$ WITHOUT GPU):
Cooler: CoolerMaster Hyper212 Evo 58$
Case: BitFenix Neos Midi-Tower - black / blue 65$
SSD: Kingston 240GB 510/555 HyperX 3K Sata 3 203$
CPU: AMD FX-8320 3500 AM3+ BOX | "Vishera" 188$
RAM: Corsair 8GB 1600-999 Vengeance Green XMP 99$
PSU: LEPA MAXBRON 700W 112$
Board: Asrock 980DE3/U3S3 74$
The budget build as an onbaord GPU, the better build doesn't, but i bet you can get someone to lend you an old PCI-X gpu for some time until you could afford your GTX770.
Now it's up to you. The system is for you, so you know whats best for you.
Good luck!
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Thanks for the builds. I checked 2 of them and they look really good. I checked most of the sites and stores for these parts. Fractal design and bitfenix cases, crucial ram, lepa maxbron psu and inno3d gtx aren't available here. :(
We have Corsair, Gskill, Cooler Master, Xigmatek, Thermaltake, Gigabyte, Zalman, OCZ, Asus, MSI, Samsung, Zotac, Saphire and Powercolor here.
There are some other brands too but the sellers don't provide a good warranty.
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Cases check a cool cheap m-atx for the budget build and a cool cheap atx for the better build.
The Crusial ram for the budget build check a cheao un-cooled ram @ 1600mhz.
The PSU check a cheap but good brand one with the same wattage.
And the GPU check the cheapest but from a good brand.
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Well, although i dont live in the US, i live in mexico, border with the US.
I bought my computer in pieces, just like you, very similar build, but it was cheaper, shame is more expensive in your area
CoolerMaster Hyper212 Evo
AMD fx- 8320
Corsair 8 gb
PSU choose
MOBO, i prefer gigabyte
I dont know about the HDD without graphics card a faster hdd wont make a real difference gaming.
If you notice, there are savings few bucks here, few there. the ideal is to keep a close eye on things, try to snatch the parts when there is free shipping or a special, or different pages, finding it cheap somewhere doesnt mean that there isnt a better deal somewhere.
I basically did the same build, minus the HDD and a better Cooler for under 500. but again, im not where you are.
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That's not my build, just 2 possible build for OP.
This is my build:
Zalman Z11, AMD FX-8320, Thermalright HR-02 Macho, Kingston Hyper-X 8gb 1600Mhz, MSI HD7850 OC 1gb, WD Caviar Black 500gb, WD Caviar Green 500gb and 5 120mm fans. I payed 500€ or 680$.
BTW: Can your Htper212 EVO keep the CPU cool?
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Definitely true. AMD GPUs in general give more for money. I personally know because here in Singapore when I bought my Sapphire 7950 it only cost me 339 USD but the GTX 660 Ti (which is around 7950 ) was like 375 USD
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i would buy a better psu, check for an xfx or seasonic.
And consider to buy a cpu cooler, even a cheap one would dramatically lower your temp (haswell get easy hot)
Sorry for my crappy english :P
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Those psu's are not very common here. There are 2 big, trustable and good priced pc stores in Turkey. Vatan Computer and Inventus. Those 2 psu brands aren't availble in these stores.
I'm thinking of a cpu cooler but i was thinking of buying it later. Since there is no external gpu, i think i won't overload the cpu. So is a cpu cooler necessary from the start?
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Based on the choice on those two sites I'd be inclined to go with this: http://inventus.com.tr/mi_products/Product.aspx?PID=5160
It's a solid all round entry level unit. It's better than the Corsair you had listed, and comes in cheaper too. There are some better choices, especially if you want modular cables, but they're quite a bit more expensive. There may be even further options if there are other shops you aren't aware of, or if you were willing to purchase stuff from Amazon for example.
There's a review of it here from a trusted PSU review site: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=248
With the CPU cooler, stick with the basic Intel one at first. It's a bit crap, it can be noisy under load and doesn't cool all that well. After you've had it for a while, decide if you want to replace it and go for something better.
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You are right. I'm planning to use only 1 gpu. But VS550 psu doesn't have 80+ or bronze logo.
When i work i use the computer 3-4 hours a day and more hours in weekends. Will using VS550 psu increase my electricity bills or should i go for a 80+ bronze psu?
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Yeh it'll be plenty. I'm running a heavily overclocked 3570k and GTX770 on an old 550W unit from Corsair.
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I think i won't sli or crossfire. The biggest gpu i'll get will be GTX770. If 550W psu is enough for you, then it'll be more then enough for me. :)
Thanks for the advice but i have 1 more question mate. Corsair 200R case has VS550 550W psu. This psu doesn't have 80+ or bronze logo.
For example i will use the computer 3-4 hours a day and more hours in weekends. Will using VS550 psu increase my electricity bills or should i go for a 80+ bronze psu?
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You pay more for a reason. AMD = B-brand with very, very limited lifespans.
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you dont know what you are talking about.
i had a phenom x4 965 be running at 4ghz with 2 pins missing for years.
now i use at stock clock on a pc i built with spare harware for my father.
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AMD cpu's are 8 cores. They are better at some games but intel cpu single core performance is better than amd.
Some of my friends have AMD fx8320. When they play strategy games like diablo 3 or Van Helsing, they get fps drops in crowded areas.
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Technologically AMD plays catch-up being about a year behind Intel. You may not notice that when playing games, but you certainly will if you're doing something far more serious. Even desktop i7-s of X930K models (both ivy bridge and haswell) beat almost any processor AMD ever released including sever ones.
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I am not too sure about the motherboard choice, although I do believe micro-atx is the way to go. Gigabyte do have some nicer ones if you'll look closely enough.
I will say that you are better off with more usb 3.0 then usb 2.0 (due to pricing of usb 3.0 getting better).
If anything, I think the case is an overkill. Why take a micro-atx MB if you gonna stick with what seems to be a full tower case.
I plan on upgrading my system when the Rift will come out and this time i'll go micro-atx (since I don't all the slots on the atx).
Have a look at this review for a good micro-atx case: SilverStone Sugo SG10 review
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Well, one of the things you worry even more about small-factor cases (as opposed to regular ones) is good air circulation. Based on this review I asked from a friend who works at a computer store if he can let check the case.
I was pleasantly surprised at what I saw from the SG10 and SG09 (basically the same; except the SG10 looks more classy). Whats more, it's relatively cheap.
Obviously, there are other good micro-atx cases, like Lian Li and such. Unfortunately they don't carry that brand and I rather go with something that I had the chance to check out beforehand myself (as you should do yourself if you can).
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Corsair 300R is a good case and it comes with CX600. That's the cheapest good case with psu in 2 local stores.
I'm looking for ATX mobo now but they are more expensive.
Also mini tower and cube cases are more expensive than Corsair 300R here. :)
I'll have a look at the review and will search for more micto atx cases, thanks. :)
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Regarding the RAM you chose, I was gonna go with the same one you listed yet ended up buying the Crucial Ballistix Tactical, it has the same specs yet it was quite a bit cheaper + low profile and it has good heatsinks.
You might also want to take a look at ASrock mobo's, they have tons of models in the lower price range (40-100 euros) yet they still have tons of features and and plently of slots for usb/sata and whatnot, and since you're going for a gaming rig i'd pick a ATX mobo for it's extra RAM slots.
In any case, best of luck!
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asrock is asus with lower quality control.
never had any trouble with their boards, but if someone goes to intel/nvidia they better atleast get a good quality setup.
many people go for intel/nvidia because jerks on the net talk shit about amd without knowing nothing.
if you have 1000$ or more go for intel/nvidia, if you have less han 1000$ just go full amd
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Here's something I don't believe has been mentioned yet. I've heard with the H81/Z87/B85/etc motherboards, you'll need to flash the bios to be able to use the new Devil's Canyon refresh processors. If you're comfortable doing that, go for it. If you aren't then go for the 4440/4570/4670 so you get something that works straight out of the box.
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got my athlon fx 8320 3.5 ghz.
A compatible Gigabyte mobo
a corsair case like that
8gb ram like the one you picked
a 550 psu
a cpu fan (want going to use the stock one)
I already have HDD's just need to get a decent video card
mine was not even 500 usd
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256 Gb won't be enough for all software and games, unless you don't use any heavy software apart from Office and you actually don't have more than a few games installed at given time.
I have 128 SSD + 2x 500Gb HDD, one of them is a pure storage, ssd+2nd hdd are used for software and games and I've used 60% of their space and that's while I'm cleaning them up all the time even though I'm not running low on space (currently I have no heavy games except for payday, diablo and sc2), but having a sole 256Gb drive for all games and software would be a disaster for me.
Don't forget you'd like to have appx. 20 Gb free at all times due to system reasons - temp files that use C: drive, system restore. You're going to clear your drive from temp files, non-latest restore points etc. like a madman to maintain free space and to delete one games to install others. Install only performance-critical programs on SSD and everything else on HDD, all of the games work perfectly from 7200rpm HDD, performance is not as fast as if they were installed on SSD, but still close to perfect. I've a laptop, my HDDs are 5600rpm and I still didn't have any performance issues at all, I only installed visual studio on SSD, because it is quite heavy and performance critical. For everything else - HDD.
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Thanks for the advice mate. I don't install a lot of games at the same time. CS:GO and DotA 2 will always be installed. I can install up to 2 more games at the same time so 250GB might be enough. I have 320GB hard drive in my laptop now. My C drive is 155GB and i always keep 40GB as free space. :)
I have 1TB external hard drive. I will use it as storage and will install less played games on it. 1TB seagate or WD Blue hard drives are cheap. If i don't have enough space, i can add one of them later. :)
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Very good build, Gigabyte makes good mobo's also so you should be fine there.
Only thing I would change is getting a standard HDD on top of it, a 3-4tb runs you like 100-130 on average now when sales hit, gof ro it, worth it.
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Thanks mate. I have 1TB Maxtor external hard drive. I'll remove it's case and place the drive into the 3.5" slot and will use as storage. 250GB SSD for os- most played games-apps and 1TB storage for all other things will be enough in my opinion. If my maxtor drive fails or i need more space, i will buy 1TB Seagate or WD Caviar Blue hdd. They are around 75$ here. :)
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Hi everyone. I will build a new pc. I have some parts in mind and i want your opinions. :)
i5 4590 3.3GHz 6MB Cache 22nm Processor
Gigabyte GA-H81M-HD3 Motherboard
Gskill Ripjaws 8GB (2x4GB) 1600Mhz CL9 F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL Ram
Samsung Evo 250GB SSD
Corsair 300R Case with Corsair CX600 600W 80+ Bronze Power Supply
I have old Maxtor 1TB external hard drive. I will install it into the case and use as storage. I will install os, games and applications on SSD.
I have only a little knowledge about motherboards, but here is what i want and what GA-H81M-HD3 has:
Corsair 300R case has 2xUSB3.0 connections on the front panel. This mobo offers 2xusb3.0 on the front panel and 4xusb 2.0 on the back panel.
There are 2 Sata III connections on mobo. I will use one with SSD. That'll be enough for me.
Mobo has hdmi and 7.1 channel audio support.
I also checked cheap Asus motherboards but they don't support hdmi and usb 3.0(front) at the same time.
I will use intel hd 4600 gpu for a few months and then i will add GTX760 or GTX770 to this build.
I live in Turkey and this build is 815$ here. What do you guys think about this build? Should i go for it?
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