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hi all!

(this is a masquerated asking for help. be(very)ware)

it's a fact. it's science, actually:

  1. You Can't Always Trust What Your Brain Tells You
  2. Why You Can't Trust Your Brain
  3. 10 Good Reasons Not to Trust Your Brain
  4. The Subtle Art of Not Trusting Your Brain
  5. Don't always trust your mind. A healthy dose of doubt is ...

and so on... but, please, don't google. and try to answer my lil' question:

if it's good not to always trust my brain, whom i should trust, then??

::: ::: ::: ::: :::: :::: :::: thank you for stopping by and do some good showerthinking with me!

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Your nonna!

2 months ago
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the Luv

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You win the internet.

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I guess it depends on what we're talking about:
If it's about trusting one's memory then sure, better to make sure and check the accuracy with some sort of external source.
If it's about not trusting one's own judgement when sleepy, anxious, horny, furious, under the influence of substances, having a panic attack, etc. Then it's just better to wait until one's back at whatever passes for normal or baseline before making any important decision.
Now if we're talking about serious mental disorders like hearing voices, visual hallucinations, or fake memories. I'd suggest looking for professional help. But I've heard that some people that struggle to tell what's real and what's just in their head use their phones to record whatever they're seeing, since if it isn't real it's not gonna show up on the screen, same goes for recording audio.

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... serious mental disorders ...

not about that.

kinda opposite: it's about your normal life, and happens to everybody. like... can you fully trust your brain if you're 100% in love with that girl? or... your brain is saying "Hella Yes!", is that the right decision? (hint: it isn't!)

it's a scientific fact that you shouldn't always trust your brain. so i'm asking for impressions on such a fact :)

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"Love" and "feelings" are not associated with the brain. They are matters of the heart.

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You know, it's the same the other way aroud. I cannot unerstand how people can be so focused on the brain, and the brain alone. It's a typical thing of western education and its religious-like dogmatic preaching that there is nothing beyond science and logic.

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you should imagine, imo, a billion people answering you:

"thanks so much, you too!"

:D

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Someone sure does sound upset... but it wasn't eeev.
If you mean love and feelings are just chemicals and electrical impulses in the fat blob that is inside our cranium, then sure.
However reducing to "science" what scientists themselves have admitted they really don't know how it works... is a bit reductive in itself.

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done it.

lol

why do folks keep on deleting what a human being already have read? hooman are SO weird, man. so so weird.

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Bah everyone gets a little sanguine from time to time online.
Then you read your posts and you're like "hm..."
But hey science is cool. It's not perfect though and the best part? Unlike most it doesn't pretend to be.

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Hhm, when it comes to love I think that the answer is usually yes, why else would you be questioning it. The real question isn't "if" but rather "what kind", and also what you're gonna do about it.

Brains aren't perfect, but they are what we have.

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No one. Be wary I guess ._.

Fitting song if you don't mind roars. Because that means you don't really have to trust and define yourself with negatives either.

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It's good to trust your brain. But the brain can only work under calm conditions. If you are overcome with strong emotions, those will cloud your judgement. Or if you drink alcohol, you blind your brain from working. So if you are somehow aware you are in these states, it's best to take a step back to think things more calmly.

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Bump for solved!

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🖤!!

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Learn from your personal experience and trust this, that most often gives you the right answers/hints. And so in my case, though I highly value my mind and my analytical skills, at the very end the crucial decisions most often I do base on my intuition, because whatever the mind says, my intuition is almost always right. That's though, my personal case, for you this may be quite the opposite.

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this. intuition.

but how do you know that's an intuition (comes from instinct?) and not your brain?

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There is a russian expression "I feel it with my butt" (ж@пой чую), it doesn't sounds well in eglish though. It's like "my gut tells me", different part of the body is involved :)

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the...
The beauty! ...is like you have a second, but also a third brain down there.

now we only should decide which is the "Master" one

LOL

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No, my friend, that is not what intuition is, nor where it is coming from. This comes from your guts.

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That's not important, because intuition isn't thoughts.

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"intuition" sounds like a thought, to me. maybe you mean something like "instinct"?

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Lol, I don't know, where it comes from and I don't care where it comes from, All I know and care about is, that it's at least 95% correct, while my conscious analyzes are probably no more than 85% correct. And OFC I know, that it's the real dependable intuition and not some brain-created substitute, because it's amber colored and has a subtle vanilla taste.

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Maybe your brain in da past, by like having a diary on and seeing ur own perspective on some issues and such and/or well.. trusting someone else's(who u find smarter or like more experienced in the matter) brain but that's kinda a judgment u make with ur own brain and as such doesn't really fit in the whole not trusting your own brain thingy entirely and also Imo it's not that u shouldn't trust ur brain ever but more like having a doubt always on what your brain tells u and actively trying to seek new perspectives on the matter, ones u don't even maybe agree with on a basic lvl and looking at them with no prejudice and trying to see the angle that the ppl who have those ideas are coming from, that way while ur still doing as your brain tells u , u r reducing the pitholes that one might fall into when so very much is trusting of their own brain thingy .in the end I doubt its a good idea to trusting anyone else fully as their brain is well kinda fallible like urs and when stuff goes forky , u don't know what to do or how to react or fix the situation sooooo like the best one can do is to just to uh expand one's own perspective and uh be open to other brain's ideas on stuff they might be better at lol.

p.s. sorry if its incoherent and forky or not helpful much , I'm a bit potatobrained at the moment(as always) lol

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loved it, thank you.
gonna re-read it but i/you've already caught the general, while very confused, meaning :D

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yep, that's what I'm good at - confusing myself/others on a regular basis by going in all directions at once when talking to someone or myself about something that may or may not even be that complex :p

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LOL

is your name i c a i o. are you sure??

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had to check to be sure , but tbh I don't got no name I'm REALLY comfortable hence my ..username lol, sooooooooo it very well could be ohom !

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had to check

LOL and love!

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Thanks for Skyrim! Trust no one. Check. めんどくさい。障害ない。Going always for the gut feeling can get your hefty rewarded....or in big trouble.

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Check.

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Also, this too.

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T H A T.

do not google into Google

please, don't.

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I'm glad someone already posted this.🫡

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if it's good not to always trust my brain, whom i should trust, then??

trust me bro

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Don't trust your brain, trust mine

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Be like water. If you can't be like water, be like Mayanaise

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Yes, I agree. Don't trust your brain. Trust your heart and your guts instead.

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The heart is not always a trusty compass but it points to a direction I'll happily follow

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My guts only speak the language of anxiety, I don't think that trusting them is that good of an idea.

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Don't trust your brain, trust the neurons firing inside your brain that make up your gut feelings ;)

also why are feelings located in the gut area?

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I hear it's not healthy to eat said feelings

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Always trust your nose. The nose always knows.

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your avatar has a nose. big one.

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The nose always knows. :)

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Your brain only gives you your view of the situation. So it's accurate to some extent. Everybody is the main character in their own story.

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It's not "don't trust your brain", it is "don't trust only your brain's first instinct/answer". In other words, always admit the possibility you might be wrong, try to look for confirmation elsewhere.

Even Google.

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I think the main thing is, don't think you know everything. "Don't trust your brain" is badly worded advice. We kind of don't have a choice in that matter. Even when we second-guess our brains, it is, in fact, our brains that are doing the second-guessing. However, if we have a healthy understanding of our own fallibility, that we can be wrong, then we can put measures in place to make sure we're not just blindly trusting our own thought processes. Things like asking other people's opinions and/or thoughts on things. Looking stuff up. Sleeping on it. Confirming our ideas, thoughts, suspicions, etc. before acting on them.

I am much more likely to trust my brain, however, than I am to trust my heart. Never trust your heart. It's more deceitful than anything else and desperately wicked. Nobody can even know their own heart, much less trust it. It's dumb, and can't be trusted any further than you can throw it (which you can't because if you tried to pull it out and throw it, you'd be dead).

My point is - don't look at yourself as the source of all wisdom or knowledge in the universe. And never believe you've got it all figured out. We're only human. We make mistakes. Asking for wisdom, advice, and knowledge from others that you have good reason to trust is far better than just going it alone with your 3 or 4 pounds of gray matter. 2 heads are better than 1. There's wisdom in a multitude of counselors, and you (and I) can often be very, very, VERY wrong about pretty much anything.

First, we confirm. Then, we trust.

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've read your comment three, four times now. and every each and every time i stop at "desperately wicked" and start smiling. why are you so hella right. why?

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We should trust cats.

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Trust no one.

In short: everything about 'not trusting' brain/gut/whatever is talking about blind trust, full trust
Thats the kind that lest be sincere should NEVER happen
Not in ones self or your senses... nor anyone else really

If our senses and memory can distort things the same applies to anyone else, people make mistakes etc- so even someone you have the most reason to trust (ex: someones mother) could lead to error or even 'deception' by mistake.

But also... we cant really know trully anyone, not fully. Heck we cant know fully ourselves. Whenever someone shoots their schoolmates or is found to be a serial killer or whatever we see family and neighbours saying theyd never imagine... Someones true intents, or what they think etc cant ever be 100% sure

Of course we do trust and we should- the odd 0.001% of cases that 'fool everyone' arent worth not trusting anything or anyone.
And the same applies to our brains.
Its not because our brains are fallible that we should dismiss it all as sketchy or whatever

Blind trust is the issue and that is a great lesson- we should always take a step back, have in mind that 'we could be wrong'. Think things through, not be too quick to judge or affirm. But some extra thinking and additional evidence is enougth to remove any doubts.

My memory of day X many years ago is by definition at most 60% 'right on spot', but those 60% is what matters- do the color of clothes that day matter? Nah. Thats why the brain took no record and everytime we remenber it shifts. The core elements are almost always right anyway- and anything important or serious just ask someone else involved. The odds of both misrembering exactly the same is so low its safe to assume anything that matches is spot on

Whats the context? Is it a life or death situation, very serious? I double-tripple check. Most everything else the gut is fine...

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The answer is simple: Trust none, not even yourself.

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I work in mental health and am going to school for it too.

Your brain is what processes all the information about the world around you, and is your only way to know what you are thinking. How do you know when your brain is wrong? A common form of brain wrongness is called Cognitive Distortions. Errors in judgement or thinking that make sense because you trust your brain, but when measured against reality are skewed.

There are several types of cognitive distortions that I highly recommend checking out. So again, how do you know when your brain is wrong? Well its hard to tell. A good way of noticing is by having someone else point it out. Cognitive behavioral therapy is a common way of catching and resolving thinking errors.

Its weird to think that your brain can be wrong, but when it is wrong your brain can hurt you. It isn't your brain's job to keep you happy, your brain is supposed to keep you alive. If something gets mis-measured along the way oh well, you're still kicking right? Its ok to be wrong about things, we all do it all the time!

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A good way of noticing is by having someone else point it out.

I guess that's the problem with the internet in general. When people find others with the same delusions, they latch onto them like they provided hard evidence that they were right all along.

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going to school

i would ask you so many questions! so, i'll go for a main one: how hard is to study, getting knowledge of your own brain?

i mean, was reading some AI related stuff, and stumbled upon this: your brain can be wrong, like, very wrong. and this bit of info alone led me showerthinking for days! how on earth you'll gonna cope with all the knowledge?? :D

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It is overwhelming at first, but you can follow your interest areas and get a good understanding over time. Like anything it takes practice. As for your brain being wrong there are several common thinking errors. I listed a website that lists some of them. I'm not my own therapist, we all still need other people!

https://www.holisticwellnesspractice.com/2021/12/26/17-common-thinking-errors-how-to-identify-and-replace-them

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It helps to have a few people in your life that you can trust 100% to tell you the truth and have your best interests at heart.

Then you can listen to their brain instead of your own!

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