Greetings, fellow math enthusiasts!
The weekend is near, and it's time to assign some math work!

11681 x 119869 - 60422 - 17860 - 35433 - 94116 x 4993 x 595073 = ?

Lv2, Ends June 17


Hints will be here, if necessary.

  1. The answer is not small, and definitely not negative!
  2. The answer is way longer than you think. In fact, it's exactly 3436 characters long!
  3. There are two steps you need to do, but only one kind of operator is used. (x or -)
  4. 10 - > 16

The most important part in this puzzle is realize that the answer you're looking for is sgtools code.
Instead of subtraction, we treat the symbol '-' as a hyphen, which is part of the code.

So the two step you need. First, do the multiplication, leave you 5 numbers separate by symbol '-'.
Next, convert these numbers to hexadecimal, then you have the answer.

Most people probably didn't realize this is sgtools format or it consists of hexadecimal numbers.
It's indeed rare to see people manipulate the sgtools code.
But I can't help thinking about the hyphen symbol in the math puzzle, it's a perfect fit!

Speak of the math. the second part of the puzzle is an actual math question, generated by this site.
It should be easy if you're familiar with these math equations, if not, there are plenty of online tools you can use(mathgpt, wolfram, etc..).

That's all! Hope you enjoy the puzzle, I'll probably go back to 5-character code next time.

edit.
As someone point out I made a mistake in hint2, it should be 36 not 34!

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Should we just answer on the comment ?

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It's better to leave the answer in the GA comment.

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If the answer was the amount of money I had I would be in crippling debt

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I highly doubt that!

6 months ago
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I also got a huge negative number, according to PEMDAS.

6 months ago
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Yep. Giant negative number.

6 months ago
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I just fix my broken math, hope it's working now..

6 months ago
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Yes, it works.
Thank you and bump!

6 months ago
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Thank you!
A little sweating after my tripple check.

6 months ago
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Ah, the second one as well, marvelous!

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Hm, the answer which i got is a negative number and too big to be an SG code... interesting... But this is my 14th hour of being awake today after 3 hours of sleep, so its possible that I should check it tomorrow... 😅

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same... both correct math and incorrect order of operations result in numbers with far to many characters for a SG code.

6 months ago
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solves the math(both correctly... and incorrectly), has no idea how to make it into a sg code

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same here 😅

6 months ago
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bump for solved

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A+ for the speed solver!

6 months ago
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You wouldn't believe how much rust I had to remove for this :-)

View attached image.
6 months ago
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I must be bad at math I tried left to right and pemdas and nothing I get makes any sense. Just massive numbers.

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Bump! :)

6 months ago
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bump for confused :)

6 months ago
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Bumping while waiting for hints... 😅

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bump for solved!

6 months ago
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OOooh numbers. Yeah no, my arithmophobia already made it hard to open the thread so not even going to try that one.

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Bump for solved!

6 months ago
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Thank you, bump.

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Welp, i don't get it, tried to do the equation on a calculator, then on paper and then checked with Chatgpt, none of the answers gave a "right" answer, since either the result was negative or just wrong, idk what the solve is!!!!

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I believe I figured out the first step, still no clue how to proceed afterwards. I'll probably wait for a hint, as there are simply too many possibilities right now

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bump

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Does it follow some specific rule I'm unaware?
Because proper math rules says that the number I got makes no sense.

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bump for solved

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I thought I knew what I was doing, but came out with a massive negative number.

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Happy 🎂day, Turbo!

6 months ago
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Thanks. Time really does feel like it speeds up as you get older. Can't believe I've been here for 10 years :)

6 months ago
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Oh, didn't even see it is a big anniversary. Well, here is to the next 10 years! 😃

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You still need to fix your math, I'm afraid. Despite your hint saying otherwise, the answer is most definitely negative. Since you're only using subtraction and multiplication, the order of operation rules are abundantly clear. You end up with a 10-digit number minus a 15-digit number. The result is a negative number that itself has 15 digits!

If you meant for a different order of operations, you need to add some parentheses.

I have no idea how a 15-digit negative number turns into a giveaway code. :)

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I tought the same thing at first, but i was wrong, same as you. Math actually checks out.

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How so? Multiplication/division always comes before addition/subtraction in the absence of parentheses. SO the equation above is exactly equivalent to:

(11681 x 119869) - 60422 - 17860 - 35433 - (94116 x 4993 x 595073)

Those last three numbers multiply together and get subtracted from the rest. Right to left, left to right, it doesn't matter. The grouping caused by the order of operations is all that matters.

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Its not my place to give hints, but the fact that people got in should tell you the math is mathing.

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and if you do it left to right its a 19 digit number.... no idea how to turn that into a code either(assuming its the right number to work with).

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There must be some other code here, because you're right, the math absolutely does not check out.

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I haven't solved it yet but someone solved it already. You're just thinking way too narrow-minded, similar to his previous puzzle where if you only thought about it like math, you weren't getting it. It's obvious the math is returning a negative number if you do it according to normal PEMDAS, anyone with the internet/wolfamalpha can tell you that so there's clearly something else going on.

edit: got it. oh lord-y me that one was a tough one.

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You just dont go and calculate the operations in any order you want. There are rules, you know.

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Don't worry, no rules are broken here.

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I think I get it, but Im not at a computer at the moment
Edit: solved the first one
Double edit: fully solved.

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it's not math, it's better because it's twchiu math (aka kinda "math")!

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You might be too negative here.
I'm pretty sure normal math is all you need!

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Closed 6 months ago by twchiu.