What is keeping someone from making bunch of fake invite-only giveaways and getting their friends to enter, or entering from different accounts?

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The Spanish Inquisition.

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Nobody expects them

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Monty python aside, everyone expects the inquisition, because they gave you thirty days notice before prosecution.

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The French Croissants

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The Martian Connection

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Bill Cosby

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The Missing Link

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Lord Cthulhu!

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The Day After Tomorrow.

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Bobofatt is.

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well, i think the mods get to know if another account enters within the same ip so that stops that, plus if some of the friends wins and he doesnt get anything, mods will be asking questions to him and the giver, ending up in the suspension of both

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You if think they check anything beside what users report with the report user/GA button you are in a big mistake. And if you think for 2min you will realize how easy it is to make it (almost) unprovable that the GA was not real.

I actually think that there are enough ppl that already exploited this.

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If there's reason for suspicion, we perma-ban until they prove it was real. This is not a court of law, and there's no innocence until proof of guilt.

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In dubio pro reo

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Also Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat

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Because i think it's easy to make it not raise suspicion in the first place.

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May you further develop your point?

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It's virtually impossible, actually.

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maybe i'm wrong

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I love it.

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Well, at some point the faker will cash in their fakes to enter high CV giveaway. You can be sure, people who give away the big CV games check on the winners if it's someone they never saw before...

Or the faker talks something stupid on the forum and people check their profile. If the same 3 people have won all your giveaways, and none of those "wins" ever got activated, it's obvious... :)

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If the person doesn't have the game on their account at the end of the giveaway, then he'll be suspended because he didn't redeem the gift.

enough of these users on the same giver will mean that the giver is fake and may lead to a ban or suspension of all accounts associated with it.

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IP is not even worth mentioning. Also, mods get to check every single invite-only giveaways?

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usually people find exploiters, when they give away a game and see they have exploited the site.

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Or when they post some crap on the forums and expose themselves. Those are the best.

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I like when they become number 1 on the giveaway list :P

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It's funny, some people almost try to get caught, like Poe called the imp of the perverse I guess. They write on the forum to complain about someone, people check both profiles and find the guy complaining was doing something worse... :)

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A lot of gifters check the profiles of their winners for exploits. So while the exploit itself might remain undetected, actually using it to enter high contrib giveaways will quickly result in a suspension.

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Lots of people check recently won giveaways and report them too, in addition to the above.

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You gotta activate the game you won, or you can kiss SG goodbye.

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Easy then. They would create a GA each time they are about to buy a game. Win it. Buy it. It would all look legit with the extra points as reward.

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Except you need at least 2 people to enter that GA to get CV from it, and there's only %50 chance of winning the game for the right owner. Say you bought yourself a game, told your friend to make a GA and you entered that GA with a 3rd friend and 3rd fried won. Hence he gotta activate your game. Not so easy ha?

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Easy, both of those earn an instant perma-ban.

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If they're boosting their contribution value it's in order to enter more giveaways. If they win enough giveaways, someone will eventually notice that they have won the same game twice or hadn't activated a previous game. It would also be pretty easy to filter those who have created x number of private/group giveaways or received x amount of value from them in a 24 hour period and manually check them from there.

I find a lot of people who abuse the system also bring attention to themselves and it only takes a few minutes to verify all the games someone has won or given away! I would assume your two private giveaways are test runs to see how it works? That's a fine example of bringing attention to yourself.

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A couple of my friends did this- constant private raffles containing high cost game bundles so their give-worth was >$1000. They were banned by the end of the day, and from what I know, no-one actually reported them. So mods must do something right.

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you have 2 private giveaways running. are you thinking what i'm thinking?

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I am. :P

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i see... let's enter

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There's a very obvious way to see such actions and you don't even have to be a mod to see it. Hell, you don't even have to be logged in to the site to see it lol

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You have a typo sir

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And you have a group for begging tf2 items ;)

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lol'd

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Yes, I beg for tf2 items so I can sell them and give huge things like Bioshock Infinite to the group.

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That's not how it works.

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I also use personal resources, and I also look for people who don't play Tf2 anymore.

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Then you shark people?

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I don't know what that means

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shark [shahrk]
noun

  1. a person who preys greedily on others, as by cheating or usury.
  2. Informal. a person who has unusual ability in a particular field.

verb (used with object)

  1. Archaic. to obtain by trickery or fraud; steal.

verb (used without object)

  1. Archaic. to live by shifts and stratagems.
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So it's bad to take things people aren't using and make em into a huge giveaway(Bioshock Infinite)?

I was not informed

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A straw man or straw person, also known in the UK as an Aunt Sally, is a type of argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position. To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and to refute it, without ever having actually refuted the original position

Also my point is, taking things under they value from people to benefit yourself in some way is bad.

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I know it's not the best thing to do, but I'm 15 and therefore do not have a lot of money so I must be creative. I'm turning one man's trash into another man's treasure

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No you are not. I'm not saying that making giveaways is bad but you are no Steam's Robin Hood.

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Dayum, you go Cast.

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Yeah, definitely. I'm nowhere near cool enough to be Robin Hood.

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You are missing the point by a mile.

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Rarely do I ever see groups for sharking as staright up begging seems to take up less effort and is the more common notion. I'm not doing anything about it because I'm waiting for the whole thing to just build up to the point where it gets out of hand. Well, that and to see how long it lasts before a few more ppl report the group leader.

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Cast, I was making a joke. I understand what you mean.

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Oh were you? Then you totally got me D:

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Hell of a show, gg.

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I tought he would swim and eat everything x:

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You can eat everything if you want Capeta ;)

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Just leave my waffles alone!

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I WILL SHARK TROUGH YOUR WAFFLES!

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?

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Damm I fucked loved that series. I have a couple of figurines at my parent's home and also some of when they appeared with the Dinos what where those called?

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oh my god, I forgot about the dinos til now but I can't remember what they were called.

UGH!!!

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Damn it, nostalgia attack.

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... I feel that Jaws is really offended somewhere in some museum.

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Nothing can stop you from doing that. Nothing can save you from the banhammer once you do.

adds to watch list

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lol!

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mspaint quality art, I approve

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I'll chat to my friend, see if I can convince him to do a custom image for you so better quality.

Edit - Now to wait for him to get online...

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You don't like my artwork?

='(

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i'll say i like it if you gimme a cookie :3

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I'll do it for half a cookie.

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stop begging :(

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I do, but my friend should be able to do something close enough to the comic style official art. He loves Megaman.

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I would beg for one ~~

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win!

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Yessss!

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Everything about that is excellent.

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Best pic ever.

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Ahahaha, looking forward to seeing what the second one is.

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That's just what I was thinking! :D

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Another mocap... Imaginative. :D

Only his own incompetence at not even inviting 2 friends prevented this being a suspend-worthy offense. :D

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Holy shit, you caused my sides to hurt

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eeeeyup. This should be fun.

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I think he's just testing the system.. Or maybe..

:conspiracyduck:

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Rage against the machines

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Thats funny XD

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So OP basically just turned himself in or had himself put on a watch list.

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People do. Get reported. and disappear.

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love threads like this, silly op

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Why are you asking I wonder. :)

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Thanks for Skyrim!

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simple, we check accounts games :-p.

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Wow, $300 worth of giveaways. Seems like such a great thing, but a shame you had no entries.

Whoops, right, 150 max points value, the games were much more.

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That puzzle was REALLLLLY Hard!

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Nearly 1.8k dollars worth of giveaways, actually.

dayum

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Oh, you are right, I was just looking at the points value. :P

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150p is the max cap.

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Yeah, I know, I'd just forgotten because face it, the stuff which hit that cap are never just given away.

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Holy... Each one is $1200 in Steam store

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900 dollars, actually.

That's one fine 25% off discount.

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I think Delta was talking about the CV gained from the giveaway, which would be full price.

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Mocap, Moproblems...

Unless the games suddenly appear on the winner's account following the giveaway, there will be no outrunning the banhammer...

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AZAMAT!

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Hmm...

Suspicious

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What might those 3 private giveaways be....

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And the other private, 3 prizes, 2 winners, and the visible winner lacks the game.

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Seems like I haven't looked thorough enough :D

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And... suspended already

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I hope this has answered your question, OP.

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Self pwned I would say :D

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Jousted by his own Picard. :D

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is that what you tried with: iPi Mocap Studio 2 Standard

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It's blatantly obvious when people try to exploit. You know on the front of the page there's a little thing on the bottom that says "Latest Received Gifts". It'll also get strange if the same people keep entering the person's giveaways, + regifting is caught very easily.

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This thread is a great big 'WTF!?' - OP comes in with two private giveaways for something NO ONE ever gives away, with a big title called 'EXPLOIT!' (You know, those things that if you are going to use them, you don't really want to draw attention to it) expecting the community to say "Oh yeah, that's fine, we do it all the time..." and then some other guy jumps in shouts 'AZAMAT' and is an obvious system abuser who promptly gets banned...

...Is this real life!?

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Is this just fantasy?

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Caught in a landslide

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No escape from reality.

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Open your eyes

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Look up to the skies and seeeeeeeeeeee

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I'm just a poor boy, I need no sympathy

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Because I'm easy come, easy go

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BREAKING THE CHAIN

and i don't even feel bad about it

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You may think this action was without consequence, but now Beelzebub has a devil put aside for you...

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I think we should stone him and spit in his eye for breaking the chain.

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When the night has come, and the land is dark.

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and the moon is the only light we'll see.

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They call me The Great Chain Breaker, Master of all Intra-web-unal Communications. My mission is to break the reoccurring song lyrical chains, that have been created within these series of posts, until of which my spherical receptor covers have increased in mass and i'm unable to have them remain open. And now... i am but two... for two

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So first you killed the Queen, now you killed the King...

...You're just into regicide, aren't you.

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What a joker, what a smoker, what a midnight toker...

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little high, little low

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any way the wind blows

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lol, nice profile....

nice,nice

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Cheers for "iPi Mocap Studio 2 Standard", I didn't enter it thou, as don't have the base application...

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