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I always take mine out while I'm gaming, and I don't intend to use this for anything but. The portability is pretty important though, and I'd like to be able to build it myself, but only if that didn't compromise the cost or computational capacity.
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The most portable SFF PC I can think of would be an Alienware X51. Most cases I've seen that would fit a desktop graphics card are still significantly larger than a laptop; either they're larger in all dimensions or they're about the same length and width but much much taller.
If you build it yourself you'll get better performance but it won't be nearly as portable. And USB monitors generally have poor image quality and resolution.
So I guess I'm saying an Alienware X51 is the closest to portable but you're paying a premium for it.
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I was looking more for a specific size of form factor, like mini-ITX or something like that, but I'll look into this. Thanks.
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Cases span a wide range of sizes. You can get very small mini ITX cases or fairly large ones. The problem is that alongside the motherboard, you still need to fit other components, including a power supply with enough wattage for the entire system.
A thinner case with a water cooled CPU and a PCI-E riser card could work but I can't think of any on the market that are small enough. Depends on what you think is too big though.
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Is it portable enough? What components would you suggest?
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Build a custom case with a micro atx, the main problem i see with this is the psu, i dont know any powerful and small one. This is the smallest case I've seen in person which could fit in a backpack http://www.bitfenix.com/global/en/products/chassis/prodigy-m#specs
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You can fit a full size GPU in mini ITX form factor. I think that's the smallest form factor possible for full power gaming PC. I'm not sure if that's portable enough for you, though. Look up Fractal Design Node 304 for size reference.
You can get a much smaller case if you use APU instead of GPU, but then you would lose quite a bit of performance.
Also, check this case.
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For the case, they said they would launch a kickstarter for it soon. It's been almost over a year and no sign of any production nor crowdfunding (kickstarter, etc). But it looks like a great case though.
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Link to a guide
Basically I built something very similar.
Pictures (doesn't have a gpu though (only integrated), meant for office work etc)
The problems with this build (and small builds):
I would recommend building it yourself:
But it is totally doable - you have to choose the case first, that will ultimately determine what you can add and what you have to keep in mind
I posted this in another thread, was lazy and copy-pasted it here. For me the main selling point would be the upgradability. As you can see the build is small (it fits in my laptop bag easily).
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Wow. Thanks so much, this looks rather promising. Noise isn't really an issue, I have rather nice noise-canceling headphones. Is there any way to reduce temp? I don't want to burn my house down if I leave the thing alone for a few minutes.
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The temps are not going to be that problematic in normal conditions (gpu is mostly idle), but rather gaming for long periods of time (unless you stick it in a closed space).
But keep in mind that this build was rather cheap - the case comes with it's own PSU which is bronze level 250W (at least my case did), but it might be not sufficient for some gaming. It depends what games you really want to play at 60fps.
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I don't understand the use case. It sounds like you want a PC that you'll carry with you to use in various places that have power, but it's not clear how you'll carry it, what distances, how many places, how long you're going to use them.
Carrying a desktop, even a small one, would be less comfortable. It's not just the weight but the fact that you're carrying a box plus monitor plus keyboard. A USB monitor isn't good for gaming, so you'll probably want something better, and you'll probably want a monitor stand anyway.
That's not to say that the desktop way isn't practical in some constellations, but I think it would need special circumstances, and I can't tell what your are.
Also, given that you seem to be okay with a 1366x768 monitor, you're unlikely to need really powerful gaming hardware.
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Small screens are fine for me, but I need 60fps to play comfortably. Again, weight isn't really an issue. I just need something that can fit inside a large backpack.
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u cant use a laptop as monitor, they are dseigned only to send out data from the connector and not to recive, if u are and hardcore gamer or u are planning to play much on the go, yes probably if u have a power source is better a small for factor pc, at the moment asrock and gygabite are producing nice mini itx motherboards and with the right case and psu it could be somethin nice, if u dont have money problem u can go with the asrock m8 barebone series, its a really nice product. if u are not planning to play much maybe is better a laptop :)
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Keep in mind that with a laptop you can't use it as a monitor for another computer. They just aren't made that way. You can hook up an external monitor to a laptop, but can't use its monitor on another computer.
Overall, I think a good portion of what is best is going to depend on the type of games you want to play on the go. Laptops definitely are much more suited for traveling since they fold up nicely and can fit quite well into a case. If you do go the route of a laptop, definitely get a mouse for it because gaming with a touchpad is a pain in the butt. You can get some nice small travel mice intended for laptops at least, I use a Targus Blue Trace one that is not even 3 inches long and 1 inch wide. If you want to be able to customize to a degree, go for a Sager because you do get a good amount of selection in what comes in it without also breaking the bank and that can be a nice compromise.
The real drawback though to a laptop is that it's really not possible to upgrade the GPU. You can increase the RAM, you can get more storage, but can't really change out the GPU at all. But at the same time, a small form factor is going to be more bulky for travel plus you'll have to lug around a monitor, keyboard and mouse. I can tell you from experience, desktop keyboards break much more easily when you lug them around, so you'll probably also want to invest in one of those keyboards that is flexible and can be rolled up. With the monitor you'll definitely have to pack it in such a way to ensure nothing can hit the screen. A laptop definitely has the advantage in ease of being able to pack it up. Just close the lid and remove anything plugged into it and shove it into the case and you are ready to go. Also, will you have a need to use the computer in places where you may not have power available? If so, definitely go laptop.
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I have an old gaming laptop right now, but its getting too old to play anything but Skyrim on low. So its time to upgrade. I've been playing around with getting a new laptop - 860M, 1080p screen, decent CPU chip - but the cost is just so high for not a lot of performance. I really need 60fps to play an FPS, I get sick otherwise. The portability of the laptop is obviously a plus, but its hard to compare the added performance without any real desktop experience.
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This is the smallest case I know of right now: http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=89867&vpn=110-MA-1001-K1&manufacture=eVGA&promoid=1315
Personally I would just go for a laptop and play indie or old games that don't ask for much power. If you can carry a small PC around though, I guess you could get a lot more gaming power.
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I was wondering, from a purely hypothetical standpoint, is it smarter to get a gaming laptop or a small form factor PC that I could use on the go with either an old laptop as an external screen or a portable USB monitor like this one.
For a more practical questioning: is it cheaper to go with the PC? What's the smallest form factor you can fit a desktop graphics card into, and is it small enough for traveling (weight is no real issue, I like to camp and go hiking so I've got a strong back)? Finally, any specific recommendations.
And yeah, I have a hidden GA in here. You all should know how to find it by now.
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