If someone is blacklisted, all they need to do to see the page is open the URL somewhere where they are not signed into SG. They can open an incognito window from the same browser, use a different browser, use a different device like a phone, computer, tablet, or just log out. Every one of those options is much quicker than asking and waiting for a reply, but I guess some people will not realize that they can do that.
Since blacklisted users can view the page anyway, it would be nice if SG changed it so that you could still view the page, but just have the enter giveaway button be red and say "blacklisted".
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Since blacklisted users can view the page anyway, it would be nice if SG changed it so that you could still view the page, but just have the enter giveaway button be red and say "blacklisted".
That's the greatest suggestion I've heard in a long while. I wonder why nobody ever thought of that before, with all the community trains we've been running. Deserves its own thread imo!
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i thought you were part of the staff here Pete? also would love if you had anything to add to the train in a few days
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I think users should be able to comment on a blacklisted giveaway because being blacklisted doesn't stop anyone from contacting you. They just need to find a comment anywhere else on the site and reply. The easiest way to send someone a message that blacklisted you, especially if you don't want to bump a thread and make a bunch of other people see it is to just click on that users won giveaways and look for a giveaway where they thanked the giveaway creator after they won. You can send them a message there and nobody will ever notice it unless they open that specific giveaway for some reason.
For that reason I think people should be able to comment. You can also view a users created discussions and send them a comment there, but then that will just result in people bumping old threads with off topic comments. That would be worse than just letting someone comment on your giveaway. You could always just ignore the person if you really don't want to talk to them, but at least if the comment are on a giveaway, it is mostly private.
It is also annoying if someone gets blacklisted and then they can't open a previous giveaway page for a giveaway they won. You may have already been having a conversation with multiple people on the giveaway page and now you are locked out while the others can continue talking there. You can't see the previous conversation that you were part of.
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I think users should be able to comment on a blacklisted giveaway because being blacklisted doesn't stop anyone from contacting you.
Actually, this is a GOOD reason for NOT being able to see a giveaway if you're blacklisted - So the asshole you blacklisted hasn't got an easy way to contact you. That's why I lock my threads. That's why I often delete my comments. Because if I blacklist you, It's for only one of two reasons - you're a hoarder, or, else it's because we don't get on. I shouldn't have to explain or justify why I blacklisted someone, and I sure as fuck don't want them spamming on all my giveaways just to get my attention.
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Are there many people on the site that blacklist a large number of users and have that problem? I feel like most people wouldn't have that issue and the benefits for the vast majority of users would outweigh the negatives for the few. The site feels kind of broken the way it is now.
Maybe just create a default copy paste response for any blacklisted user that says something like:
This is a generic response for blacklisted users. I add users to my blacklist for different reasons and I do not want to have a discussion with users on every giveaway I create to explain whey they are blacklisted, so I will not reply any farther.
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+1 I got the experience that someone chasing me with wall of text to ask the reason why I blacklisted him.
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ESGST add-on does this automatically (reloads blacklisted GAs unlogged in).
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^^^^ This
I just use ESGST, and that allows for moving through trains without interruption. If I'm on someone's BL, it displays it as such, but I can still see what the GA is and also avoid dealing with any silly skip links. Honestly, I agree that this is, ideally, how the site should work in the base case, but at least there's a good and free workaround via ESGST.
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i'd rather it end on 31 December because that is what last years ended on but i did and in train to the title
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the bit where i wrote - i will be having the first cart and the giveaway MUST end on the 31 December so do NOT make giveaways until the 1st December
it is kinda nice if people read the post correctly (sorry not hating on you)
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No problem. I am quite embarrassed though. My wife is laughing at me right now because I did actually try to see if you mentioned a start date, and somehow didn't see it (I saw and remember reading the 31 December part). She's laughing at me because whenever I can't find something at home, she finds it right away, where I had been looking. Sigh. :-)
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no problem - just remember to save something to add to the train
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Damn, only high-ranking and exclusive cool kids only train?
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no problem - hopefully we can get lots more train carts added
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cart 2 is up - let's see if we ca beat last years total - please
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Have a bump and thanks for organising this community train :)
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Incredible, 8 hours no new giveaways and the moment I start creating some carts there is a merge conflict. should be fixed now. :)
Station 20 is now: https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/aiwTu/concrete-jungle
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thanks for everybody who has added cart(s) to the train so far - we are of course still looking for more and it's a nice way to give back to the community and get rid of some keys you don't need
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https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/IIini/community-xmas-train-feel-free-to-join-we-need-more-giveaways-to-be-able-to-continue-thanks - last years one
If you can't add a train then a bump will be a big help
i have decided to start a second year of my community train - which was super successful last year (nearly three hundred giveaway carts)
the rules are the same as last year:
invite only
level 3 max (so more people can enter)
number the cart and link it to the last one and next one
NEW RULE - if you are black listed by someone and can't see the next cart post here and someone will reply with the next persons link
here is the code for the giveaway
[number of wagon]
<<< [Previous]("previous link") ||| BUMP ||| [Next]("next link") >>>
"optional text by creator"
as last year anything is allowed to be given away in this train including:
0 CV
DLC
Same as other carts
unbundled and many times bundles
ANYTHING
i will be having the first cart and the giveaway MUST end on the 31 December so do NOT make giveaways until the 1st December
Thanks and all is welcome (if you can't add a cart a bump here is great also)
any questions or suggestions feel free to comment below
it starts here with a brand new un bundled Christmas themed game - https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/NyLHR/
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