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How do private giveaways farm up your CV? CV works the same for both types of giveaways.

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It was already suggested.

It works just fine as it is. Don't fix what's not broken.

This seems like a good idea. Personally, I don't care. If someone wants to make a game I want with $2000 giveaway, I'll just buy the game myself.

why do u care?

OP: Think of CV as a big group. Get SG+ and hide the red giveaways, and don't worry about it. CV is just so ironic, at face value. You get it by buying games for other people. But if you can afford to do that, you can afford any game you want. So the high CV games don't make a lot of sense. It's like asking ten CEOs to put their names in a hat for a free Big Mac. You're wasting their time; any of them who want it can just go get one. So I think maybe it's more of an ego thing? Not to have a high CV — that's awesome, to contribute that much. But to make a giveaway that requires an absurdly high amount. Like I said, you might as well just have a "rich gamers" group. But with SG+, you never see the red (your CV isn't high enough to enter) giveaways, so it's not an issue.

As for, "What CV is too high for what game," I think if the CV is higher than the cost of the game, it's in silly territory, because it says, "You must have given more than the value of this game for a mere 1 in X chance of winning it."

But I don't have an opinion on how the site should be run. I think some of the mentality is a little loopy, but it's a good site and it seems to be doing well for itself like this. The only problem with SG is that there are far, far more people trying to win than there are people making gifts. If it were up to me, you'd have to make giveaways to win them. The bundle list would be dropped and replaced by a system that knows what you paid for a game. You scored Just Cause for 27¢? Good for you, each Just Cause giveaway adds 27¢ to your "value". You can enter unlimited giveaways (no 300P limit) but when you win a game, its cost is taken from your value, and if your value is less than what a game cost, you can't enter it. So if there's a $20 game you want, you must have given $20 more than you've gotten. That way, legitimate contributors are rewarded, exploiters are rewarded justly, and leechers just don't exist. Problem is, SG has no way of knowing what you paid for a game, especially if it wasn't bought through Steam (e.g. Humble Bundle). I'd solve that by finding the absolute cheapest the game could ever have been had (or, if it was ever in a bundle, $1 divided by the number of games in the first tier) unless you could prove you paid more. That would be fair. But the truth is, the leechers create ad impressions and that's what keeps the site going. If the system were fair, far fewer people would use the site and the ads wouldn't support the bandwidth.

Morale is:

OP only gave Bundle games, OP didn't win yet with 0.7 estimated, OP is disappointed he isn't getting every game out there.

The reason? Too many people having low CV, OPs solution: Make more people have less CV

and what about Priv GAs that are posted PUBLIC for whole community? Foryum threads, events, puzzles?

Farming

I'm giving to give I just like to give to people and better chances what's the difference?
If I gave public bioshock infinite or private I'm still giving a game? I just choose to give people a 1 in 20 chance at it instead of 1 in 5000.
A gift is a gift.

Plus I rather know who I am giving my gift too at times since I have given publicly and don't even get a simple post of Ty on the giveaway page itself.

I have done private but public giveaways on the forums cause I can at least make rule. One that is in my opinion should be common sense but I have has to make it a rule "comment on the giveaway they are entering" even with that rule to show you how common sense of a simple Ty at times is overrated was when I had to reroll a set up of giveaways each of the winners did not even post a letter or word or a hello

This thing is suggested at least once per month.
But sadly never gonna happen. :/

So making a puzzle for people to find out the giveaway shouldn't count as regular CV?

What you call farming is people giving away games.. be publicly or in private giveaways it's still giving away games. Nobody forces those people making public giveaways to make em public.. it's their choice and calling this unfair is just stupid.

You never made any giveaway that wasn't a bundle giveaway but you think you can criticize how the site works. The way it is now already brings up enough work for the support people to handle, no need to make it even more complicated for no reason.

Would adding OP to my blacklist do anything? OP says he is too noble for those CV farm private and group giveaways, so what use does him on my blacklist have?

CV is CV, no matter where it's from. If I do a group giveaway for the S.Gifts group (which is open to everyone) or post the link to a private giveaway in the forum to avoid the leeches that just parse the front page and move on, it's still pretty much public.

I agree. They should show up and work separately.

To my mind, high CV giveaways are just another kind of group giveaway. I consider high CV members to belong to a supergroup of sorts, that transcends the boundaries of Steam groups. Moreover, since you can almost certainly be assured they have a decent grasp of how the site works -what is and isn't allowed- I don't think we need the extra layer of confusion that would stem from splitting them up further.

It's not a bad idea, just unnecessary in my opinion.

Ok two thinks: 1st no OP there's no control of CV for group, private or open GAs, though I belive you already knew that. 2nd no, sorry but I do not belive that it is a good idea, for many reasons but I'm too lazy now to elaborate, but truth be told, I don't realy care...
Edit:O here have a private GiveAway no CV you just need to click the thingy ;)

You know what?
I had enough of these stupid threads about darn retarded "suggestions"! You can sweeten your words all you like, and in the end your idea will not work! Furthermore, I had enough idiots around your level making this kind if threads.
What I think? I think that you clearly should get a life.
Could work? Just a big fat NO!

He still havent close this thread even though all of us hate it.

What about public group giveaways?
Recently, there was a public giveaway that advertise a giveaway of the same game and ending at the same time but it was a group one. Needless to say, the public one got 2x more entries but it was still open to anyone who clicked on the public giveaway.

And there's still the problem of public forum/puzzle private giveaways.
Anyone can enter those granted they solve a puzzle, is not in the giveaway creator's blacklist, or failed to follow a rule.

Then there are the public chat private giveaways.
There are private giveaways in sg chat that are open to people in there. Heck some people only stay in there because of the giveaways and never utter a single word.

There is no prefect way of handling the system so that everyone will like it.

I dont think that it is a good idea. Someday you will find your group, OP)