It costs more to execute someone than to lock them up for life. Let that sink in for a second. I'm not against the death penalty per se, however I'm against wasting tax dollars. Lock 'em up for life to keep my taxes low. Or, you know, make better laws and better preventative measures.
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The appeal process is extremely lengthy and expensive for the government. And everyone appeals the death penalty. I mean, they have literally nothing to lose by doing so. Can't really fault it on that point though, better to let 100 guilty people go free than to execute an innocent man, as the paraphrased saying goes.
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I firmly believe in capital punishment in specific cases (e.g. murder).
1) It acts as a deterrent if the punishment is sure and swift. If the punishment is neither swift nor sure, the deterrent is lost.
2) It removes the person who is willing to kill another from society, thereby increasing the safety of everyone else.
3) It's much, much cheaper than imprisonment.
4) It usually gives some relief to the remaining family members as they no longer have to face the murderer.
5) It prevents revenge-killing on the part of relatives and discourages blood-feuds.
To those who say "What if the guy is innocent?" I will point out that trashing a person's physical, emotional, and mental health by torturing them for 20+ years in prison (if they survive it) is less humane. There is no way to "compensate" someone whose life you have destroyed in such a manner. Also, the burden is on the legal system to improve their methods. As things stand now, the U.S. legal system is quite sloppy when it comes to prosecuting cases and dispensing justice.
And then there's the manner of execution. Lethal injection, hanging, and firing squad are all poor methods of execution. The most humane, effective, and inexpensive way is still by chopping the head off in one quick slice. (No, chainsaws aren't appropriate.)
I also believe in forgiveness, however. If the murdered individual's remaining family are willing to let the killer live in exchange for monetary compensation (set by them and the judge), then that is acceptable. The judge may decide to order additional requirements be met in such a situation. If even one member of the family wants the killer dead, however, then he or she dies.
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1) that's not true. there are many studies and statistics that show it doesn't act as a deterrent at all.
2) so does life imprisonment.
3) also not true, life imprisonment is cheaper.
4) for some perhaps, is that really a good enough reason to (lawfully) murder someone?
5) if they want to actually kill someone then that makes them as bad as the murderer, surely... that sort of thing doesn't happen often (i've honestly never heard of anyone do that) in places that don't have capital punishment, like the UK.
"To those who say "What if the guy is innocent?" I will point out that trashing a person's physical, emotional, and mental health by torturing them for 20+ years in prison (if they survive it) is less humane. There is no way to "compensate" someone whose life you have destroyed in such a manner."
tell that to the people who have been found innocent. i'm fairly certain they would tell you they would rather have gone through hell and come out the other side, with a nice sum of money to try and make up for lost time, than actually go TO hell.
"If the murdered individual's remaining family are willing to let the killer live in exchange for monetary compensation (set by them and the judge), then that is acceptable."
unless most murderers are bankers i don't see how on earth the common person is going to be able to afford to pay large sums of money to the victim's family, unless you want that to come out of your pocket, too... or just add onto the state's endless amount of debt. profiting off of a family member's death just seems weird to me, too... funeral costs and any costs for counseling seems fair enough, if that's what you meant.
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It would be nice if your "firm" believes would be based on facts. As keybox so nicely pointed out your 5 points are either outright flase or flawed.
To add to what Keybox already stated:
it also gives relief if the convicted person is put in prison for life. There is no evidence that the death of the criminal gives more relief than having him put away for eternity.
revenge killing wont happen if the person is in jail would it? Blood-feuds are at least in the western world such rarity that it doesnt justify death penalty. If anything the people who are involved in the blood-feud should be punished themselves due to criminal activities. If everybody would play judge countries would end in anarchy in no time.
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My beliefs are based on facts. If either of you are really interested in pursuing a discussion, chat with me on Steam. Otherwise, you are entitled to your opinions.
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For it. For people saying 'it's too final', the average time spent on death row is around 15 years; if they have anything to prove, they can do it then.
Yes, everyone deserves to live. But with their actions, they can easily forfeit that right.
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DEAD PENALTY 4 LIFE! XD
But seriously I think that criminals sentenced for taking life should give life back. The criminals with healthy organs should be held to be a donors - when someone needs a liver and his fits they should take it off him to save life etc. Those who have working capabilities (are not terminally ill - criminals) should work in highest risk environment and do the hardest physical work for free as their punishment - so when there would be for example a gas explosion in mine - only worst scum dies and not family fathers/good citizens. I'm sick of prisoners/convicts complaining about their cell size or that they don't have certain rights or so - they have a lot better conditions than homeless who didn't do any harm to anyone and are dying from cold or hunger. Yeah if there would be justice in THE WORLD That would be great
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You want to harvest organs from criminals without their consent? Not only is that inhumane, but the innocent people have to live with the fact that they are alive because someone else broke the law. How would you feel knowing that in order to save your life, someone else had to lose theirs?
In the UK and I'm sure most of Europe, most homeless people are homeless by choice. Our government can and will take care of them, but they choose to take those drugs, they choose to avoid seeking professional help, they choose to be in that position despite all the opportunities available to avoid it.
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"You want to harvest organs from criminals without their consent? Not only is that inhumane, but the innocent people have to live with the fact that they are alive because someone else broke the law. How would you feel knowing that in order to save your life, someone else had to lose theirs?"
First of all when u kill ppl - is that humane? u brake the law and u terminate others existance - they dont have any rights, privileges - because they are gone. They - killers usually know what they are doing and should be aware of consequences - if u don't obey law why should your laws be obeyed?
If I knew that I have organs from someone who killed people it wouldn't affect me by any means i would be happy that the circle of life and death was powered by the donor and that he repaid his crime of taking life by giving life to someone else.
"In the UK and I'm sure most of Europe, most homeless people are homeless by choice. Our government can and will take care of them, but they choose to take those drugs, they choose to avoid seeking professional help, they choose to be in that position despite all the opportunities available to avoid it."
So criminals who are being sentenced for life were forced to kill someone? to take someone's life? Srsly? They didnt make their own choices? It's simple - i dont want to kill u so I DON'T KILL U?
In what kind of environment u live? where criminals are being forced to kill ppl and homeless are living on the streets beacause they want to. FFs u say u r from UK and it sounds like Somalia or sth like that
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I'd love to hear someone giving death penalty for notorious criminals: drug dealer - headshot, corrupt politician - headshot, notorious driver under influence - headshot.
Unfortunately, it's way too easy to frame someone (drop bag of drugs here, leave backpack full of money in politician office right before anti-corruption-police came there, etc.) to believe it wouldn't be abused :(
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As long as there is the slightest chance of an innocent person ending up on the chair, then my opinion is that it should not exist.
That being said, there are a bunch of people(or types of people) that i believe, that the death sentence should be applied on. But not as long as the above risk exists.
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For it, some people just don't deserve the privilege of life.
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Why are you for it or against it?
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