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So I guess the expected-to-be-successful ESO isn't doing so hot.

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I hope it'll become F2P

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Can someone say to me why the game has an price of 27.49 (-50% off) eur, and still has reccurring payments? This is absurd, paying for finished game price and then have to pay more if you would like to play more of your game (??). I really don't get it. They should look somewhere else for getting money to keep up servers than on recurring payments, because I do not think they got servers that are 1000+ eur each per month.

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Abo-Payment ist really not because of the Server Hosting it is only a trick to get money of dump people with to much of it. and believe me.. there are so many dump people out there ... thats why it works...

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Because $50 then a monthly sub is accepted as standard practice for an MMO. It also makes the most money.

You're right that it doesn't cost that much to run an MMO. ArenaNet have ran GW1 off of purely how much money they made off preorders for the original game. That's not including development however. Add in the expansions and it's been covered. With production and patches, Anet said they can run GW1 until 2040-ish if costs remain the same as they are now, before they lose money from the original box copies that were sold (all expansions, at launch of each.) That's a lot of profit. Guildwars 2 preorders have funded all development thus far, and then some. Anything other than preorders (sales after launch, and gem store) have all been "profit" as per the NCsoft meetings/reports.

Up until 2011 (when the interview was) Blizzard stated that the sales of vanilla WoW was enough to cover all of the server costs, and development costs for both expansions (BC, WOTLK) at the time. That's not including Subs, just box copies. Then they included a bunch of PR speak that said the money wasn't just pure profit though, but to make a better experience for players. Other than servers, patches, and new content/features, I don't see how it benefited players at all... Anyhow, they said it'd be enough money to last them a while as well. Which means, including each expansion at $40 thus far, the sub fee for WoW has been pure profit as well.

SEO also said similar things about EQ and EQ2. They were even more open about it, saying the sub fee has always been about profit and providing /more/ servers for an expanding player base. Which made sense, in 1999 and early 2000 when servers/bandwidth cost a lot. Which is why they removed their sub fee and both are now F2P titles.

Basically, sub fees make more money because people will pay them. They aren't "required" but they make money. A lot of it.

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Thanks for replying, this really made me think in not to even go into subscribeMMO, only have played similiar f2p MMOs, which were awesome. I would acually pay for the 30 euro price or more if I would know that I am buying the whole game and I would be able to play it as long as I feel like it. But yea, it seems it's about how big of a profit you can get, and asking for that huge recurring payment, is just overwhelming.

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then it will be F2P for sure.

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I hope! I'm not paying a butt load of money every month.

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Sub >>>>>>>> f2p.
Also, 14€ a month is definitely not "a butt load of money"

ESO, however, is just terrible.

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That depends, me, an argentinian, wouldn't pay that ammount of money per month.

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This, exactly. Sub prices should be localized. I would pay around 10-12 bucks, not more

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Yeah they really need to do that, people need to realize the cost of living varies, these companies need some learning.

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I won't touch it even when it is F2P. It just has had so many problems, with so little care by the devs, that i'm just not interested.

10 years ago
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I doubt you played it. Otherwise you wouldn't speak nonsense.... Ah... Haters.

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It's not the best mmorpg in the world but It's not a bad game. I played almost 1000 hours and I still enjoyed every moment of it. Just ignore those trolls

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1000 hours is just over 41 days straight.

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I'll be honest with you, ESO was a complete mess on launch and it still is, and like Gramis said, i'll never want to experience the horrible problems again like i had to during beta.

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'cos betas are supposed to be flawless gaming experiencez right

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Heh, okay I admit that was out of the blue and totally unrelated, but it was near when they released the game, and they didn't even bother fixing many things. But beta isn't suppose to be flawless, so my fault ><

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honestly every mmo is a mess at launch as well

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To be honest, I didn't find the BETA bad. For a new game it was pretty good, and all the bugs I encountered were pretty pointless. Of course some, like that one were a NPC you had to kill in order to progress on the story with that Khajiit, were game-breaking, but they were still pointless since: 1. They are really easy to solve. 2. It's a MMO, do something else...

10 years ago
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MMO betaz are 100% finished gaimez and they are used for promoting the gaime.

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I won't be subbing to it. ESO was pretty fun during the beta, but it isn't worth $15 a month. Once it hits F2P then I'll be playing it.

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12 euros? Dafuq.

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Disgusting.

10 years ago
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Is this a joke?

10 years ago
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Nope! It's Zenimax! :)

10 years ago
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Moneymax fxd

10 years ago
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People crying that it is to hard to get a horse.. People crying that they make an easy way to get a horse.

Stop crying damn it! It is not like you are missing out if you don't get it.

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But it's a HORSE! What don't you get about that?! It's so... epicz0rs!!one11!!

10 years ago
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u wot m8

Mounts are essential to MMOs to get around the place, they should be acquired quickly after the starting zone.

10 years ago
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Still cheaper than the Bliz Store Mounts.

Though I will admit, I would expect a RL$ mount to have more....flair?

10 years ago
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Provides standard mount speed bonuses

Holy fucking shit, I want it!!!

10 years ago
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Ok, not let's wait for step 2. Free to Play(aka Pay to Win)

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If I be honest... I had 0 interest on this game since the beta. Maybe I'll give it a try if it becomes F2P, but I definitely will not pay a monthly fee for playing a game.

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6-12 months until f2p. they are calling for it with their greedy behaviour..

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This will be f2p soon, at least i hope.

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It has a price! http://store.steampowered.com/app/306130/

Per 30 days.. -_-

10 years ago
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:(

10 years ago
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F2P... Not sure, but hopefully remove the monthly soon

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Expected to be successful by who? :) Besides any deluded people at bethesda most gamers were giving it 6 months - 1 year before f2p. Putting it on steam with a 50% off 4 months after launch, desperate much? Imho they're just trying to milk as much as possible before f2p.

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I think that steam has the sale due to several other sites being cheaper from start. I could get it for like 16x SEK wich is like 17 euros.

10 years ago
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"You will need 80GB of Hard Drive space free for game installation" O_O

10 years ago
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It's not that big. Not even close.

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You're joking, right? This store-bought computer I bought has 1TB of hard drive space, only!

Oh, wait...

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What?

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WOOSH.

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It was ~12gb last time I downloaded it.

10 years ago
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Can I somehow get my The Elder Scrolls Online-game onto Steam >:O

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Seriously guys, calm down... The game is pretty good, and even bad in the BETA, it was pretty flawless, for a new MMO. If ESO is so bad that is god F2P, then I have to say that WoW should have gone F2P a looooong time ago. But mainstream stuff will stay mainstream I suppose.

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fp2 would be so great, I played the beta and I don't had any problem at all.

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LMFAO, the game is on steam now and the forum is flooding with topics about how mediocre the game is.

10 years ago
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Who the hell cares about TESO. I finally got into Archeage closed beta! Can't wait for official release.

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Omg then you will prepare to pay 27,50 €uros / month (50% off)

10 years ago
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What? I'm not playing TESO. I'm playing Archage, which is f2p.

10 years ago
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I bet when it does go F2P. F2P is going to suck hard.

10 years ago
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cool bean

kiss me when it's f2p

10 years ago
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Yeah, noticed that. Can't say I'm too surprised. Anyone who's played it, what's it like? Heard it's pretty "meh".

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Gonna wait for it to go f2p before I try it, during beta I couldnt even create a character. Anyway I expect it to be f2p sometime next year.

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I actually don't want it to be free to play. They should just go the route of The Secret World and the Guild Wars series and just be a pay once, play forever experience. I want to play it because I love The Elder Scrolls, but I just don't want to shell out $15 a month if the only thing I'm getting for my money is the right to keep playing the game.

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+1 for pay full price once, never pay monthly fees. Not a fan of monthly fees, and even less a fan of f2p

10 years ago
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+1 . Pay once,play forever with optional VIP program would be better for most people than those monthly subs.

10 years ago
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awesome, might give it another shot once it goes f2p.

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