ok thanks :)
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You can reroll if they don't want it, but you cannot reroll for any other reason you have stated
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"This user has a big black square as avatar. This is clearly rampant racism, so I want a reroll, thanks."
There is enough drama for the stupidest things already, imagine what would support have to deal with if users could use the "bitching bitching I don't like him" reasoning.
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It's not up for debate, we wouldn't reroll just because you don't like the winner
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Of course you can't do it, but what if you know the winner is a potential scammer.. broke certain rules but never got punished? But unfortunately you "forgot" to blacklsit him whatsoever. I beleive it should be possible to reroll, since first of all, the giveaway was made by you.
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broke certain rules but never got punished?
Then you could get a reroll, if an user gets suspended they're not entitled to any pending win.
first of all, the giveaway was made by you.
Yes, but if you choose to make it here, there are some terms that come with it and that you have to agree with, such as the winner being random. It's not random if we let users cherry-pick their winner. The consequence of the randomness is that you may or may not like the winner, but they are still the winner.
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I understand the "I don't like the winner" can't be done at all. I just hope that you guys actually modify the Guidlines a little more with extra precision regarding roughly everything including this matter. I really find it awkward for such big community to have a very little Guidelines. For me honestly, I never check the winner, I just send the key straight away without hesitating because it was my intention at first to gift it to whomever gets selected by the server, it's just there are some people who would like to be "picky" about their winners.
P.S: I know there are blacklists and whitelists for this matter.
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Yeah I understand the privacy bit ... but why enter giveaways for people you know are going to add you? In the case you've mentioned, it just seems particularly ridiculous (and also makes me wonder if the person isn't using autojoin since they don't avoid your giveaways ...)
Like the OP said, it was in the GA description that she would add the winner. :X
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In my case, the user probably doesn't have the skill or money to use a script that blocks my giveaways specifically. They could also be hiding bad things.
I usually include a note in my descriptions if I intend to add users, but I try to regularly exercise due diligence and check for duplicate wins, non-activated wins, and prior ownership before sending a gift to a winner. To do that, I have to be able to see their games list.
Really, it's their call. I'll happily let another win if they choose to hide in the dark.
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The optimistic answer: they are afraid that it is a scam link.
The pessimistic answer: they know you'll check if they redeemed it as they cannot hide their profile from a friend without looking suspicious, so they cannot just straight-out steal the key to sell it.
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Honestly I thought the whole time I did something wrong, cause the winner lets say wasnt very friendly
But then I saw one of your GA (with your statement)and thats when I thought maybe I didnt do anything wrong:)
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You didn't do anything wrong! It's your GA, where you give someone a game for free.
I write that in my GA descriptions for two reasons 1) so the winner won't just ignore or block my friend invite, and 2) so I can point to them knowing what to expect, should they grumble about the way I handle this.
Also this gives me time to check out my winners before contacting them / sending out the key or gift link.
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For the second question, maybe the person is like me and generally prefer not to add people on steam unnecessarily. Especially as SG allows entering Humble Bundle gift links as keys. That said, as the saying goes, winners of giveaways can't be choosers.
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ýes it could be it, after that incident I have put in the keys for all my games except the Steamgifts ofc
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so what? add, accept, remove. If someone is gracious enough to give you a gift, you should be gracious enough to accept it in whatever form they want to give it. And, it's only good manners to indulge them in a quick chat, if they want.
Feel free to remove them afterwards.
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Well yeah, that's what I would do. I mean, in this case it just sounds like the winner was a bit of a jackass. I'm just trying to provide a reason why the person might care in the first place (even if it's minor), not to excuse the actual behavior.
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@1. What you meant is game was in person library ;) In this case you always should request a reroll. You basically got scammed of this game, sorry :< On the other hand - if game is in inventory as a gift you should gift it. Remember - you cannot know what purpose of this gift is. A lot of users (including me ;P) create GAs for the games they want. I have gifts in myinventory for the games I would like to own myself but I as many other contributors prioritize gifting over my own library. The fact that someone is Giving Away or is going to Give Away XYZ in the future does not mean he don't want to win XYZ as well ;)
@2 - Not your problem. If the winner has a problem with you adding him/her and accepting gift this way - he may choose not to and let you reroll. It's your gift, it's you who paid money for it, it's you who decide how and when it's gonna be delivered (as long as it fits the site's rules). Even more - if you wish to deliver key via chat and winner refuses it may be base for reroll request (winner refuse gift / cannot contact winner)
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thanks for explanation:)
In the first case the person already had the game installed and played it for more then 2 hours
I wasnt sure what to do so I did nothing....but it is now already one day ago so he/she probably already traded my key
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Edit: Did the first winner confirm receiving it?
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Still learning all the rules written and unwritten on SG
So if you are willing to help me by answering these questions I would appreciate it:)
thanks for answering (I hope)
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