Kitty Cats Sharing Club - Giving away NBA 2K17. Getting myself banned rn for this.

The Earth wouldn't exist if nothing existed, but it exists, so everything else exists.... your logic is just simply flawed.

I didn't know the SG team was required to implement whichever idea you personally thought was better or that made them the bad guys. While I personally love the way SG itself is worked out, because it helps in a lot of areas which would take me too much time to write, I understand that we have different opinions on the matter however I fail to understand how you can support a system where people can steal keys then trade them further, to a system where people get punished for something like that simply because you gotta use the steam auth extension steam itself created. What a hassle for people who want free games, right?

It's not that your idea is bad, it's just one more thing to a website that is already basically perfect in it's system, and it would just interfere with a system of rules set in place and get in the way of tracking the needed information. It allows giveaways based on regions, levels, + other customization such as having a giveaway start a week from now and end a week after not having to worry about it in the meantime, and it tracks all the information to see who leeches, who activates their gifts, and issues suspensions for those who just win a key and just trade it away. You're either asking for SG to split into a system of both rules and no rules, or just completely abandon the rules, and that simply doesn't make sense, in between the 3 anyone should choose rules.

Regarding the one argument you keep insisting on "SG wouldn't exist if Steam didn't exist.". Why does this matter? You're trying to create an excuse for promoting your group that isn't related to the service SG provides on SG while dissing SG in the process for not following your ways while claiming this isn't promotion even though you are linking to your group. This is what I would call "ENTITLED". I'm wondering do you go into other steam groups and post a link to your steam group? For instance if it has 100k users and it was a Steam group would you go make a discussion forum there too? Since they're all the same I assume you already posted on the Valve&Steam facebook pages, their twitter pages, etc. including in basically any indie game forum launched through grenlight because if Steam didn't exist, most of these games wouldn't exist, right?(If I have to consider your comment, then all of these are just extensions of Steam, which in my opinion is not correct, I certain Steam itself would run away at the thought of the Bad Rats forum being called an extension of Steam after all it went through) So why post your stuff here and not in 3000 spots? It's your argument after all.

It's not really as if you can use Origin and Valve since It's not Valve CEO's coming in here saying "Guys were giving away stuff! go to our page, also we don't like the way SG does stuff", so using facebook and mySpace I was trying to give an example of two similar parties, wasn't really pointing out to facebook and mySpace specifically but I suppose it was too ambiguous even though I said "it's like". I meant to say it's you a giveaway group owner, and by all means it doesn't bother me at all and I don't see why it would bother the mods here too. But you're coming to the biggest giveaway website saying this websites way of doing things is wrong and that they don't respect your way, which you have no way of knowing, they just have their way of doing things that has worked for years. Instead, you're suggesting they should join your group where you too, such as other users here, give stuff away and "maybe" make giveaways of their own tin your group.

Also, comparing SG to Steam is wrong, they do different things, Steam is a multi-purpose platform while SG is meant for giveaways. SG doesn't sell games in the first place, and the information it operates on is from Steam. I don't know why you had to claim Steam is bigger than SG, because Steam doesn't have an organized place for giveaways as big as SG does(other than random people posting keys here and there which are taken by bots and no one says even one thanks, or when it goes to a group giveaway, where it's an enclosed space and the giveaway owner picks the winner), and SG has pretty much no other functionally other than helping users with giving/receiving Steam gifts while hopefully you know the extent of Steam.

Compared to you, I have no beef with you, I'm explaining why your practice of promoting your group while dissing on SG makes you look bad. That's not beef, I am nice, so I wont say things like you said to me. However, you can't expect me to agree with you when this is how you display yourself. Thanks.