horrible, i made so many mistakes, funny thing is that i knew better than to install from wuni, that program made a mess out of my partition and now im afraid to even boot the pc before i finish instaling it again via dvd.
not to discourage anyone, its quite simple if you know what you are doing, just read as much as you can before doing it so you dont mess up the install, my mistake? being too rash and thinking i knew what to do when an error ocurred. just read and do as ppl suggest, thats the best way.
just hope my drivers install wont go as bad as the OS did lol
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indeed, thing is, i have used ubutu in the past, about 5 years ago, the problem was i thought they had made the instalation process much simpler, but that was my mistake.
also, now i cant install it, and i have no idea why -.-
to the linus forums!!!
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wow sorry for the extremely late reply!!!
yes linux forums XD
thing was i installed it in my laptop and i had no idea my gpu had so many issues with linux, to be specific its an nvidia geforce gt 525m, problem was that those cards have the optimus technology, that basically means it uses the nvida gpu for heavy 3d processing while using the integrated gpu for all the rest just so you save batery power, and nvidia linux drivers still dont fully support it.
i solved it allready installing bumblebee with primus, still tf2 runs really badly, and i have no idea if that has anything to do with the game not being ready for linux or the drivers that arent the latest since the last supported drivers are from a while back.
thanks for your response, i think i can still benefit from anything you may know, and if you dont its ok, ive resigned myself to playing on windows six years ago :)
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yes ive tryed them but they seem to be a little iffy in linux, theres a lot of black screen freezes at boot, and the only workaround at the moment seems to be a fairly complicated procedure for a linux newbie. still thanks for your advice, i assure you im still searching for a safe way to install them as we speak :)
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I've been using it ever since beta. I use Linux mainly and only boot up Windows for certain games that aren't on Linux. It was buggy at first, but it's quite nice now :)
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Yeah, who wants to DRIVE car, you must first learn how to disassemble and reassemble it! Then start engine not by key, but by short-circuiting 2 wires deep under the hood!
...stupid shit like this is why Linux will ALWAYS have ~1% of OS market, no matter how much lipstick you put on a pig it's still pig.
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Sadly, once anything breaks on Linux, back to CLI it is. This year, I watched my friend trying to use Linux, but once second program he tried to install demanded 8 lines of CLI instructions to grab needed packages (that were not in repository) he gave up and went back to Windows.
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I'm sure you can install any packages from a gui, even if it's not in the repo. But frankly it's easier to give instructions in CLI, and it's easier to follow them in CLI (copy and paste), the only problem is that some people are afraid of the CLI.
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Hello Einstein, most normal users would prefer to learn stuff they use to work, instead of fighting their OS. Your employer pays you for the results you produce, not for Leet CLI hacking. It's attitudes like that why Linux is so ridiculed everywhere. Once you do real work done on PC, or even Mac, you'll see why.
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So what? If I want to drive from point A to B, I take Rolls-Royce, not a garbage truck. The ones who need that hat are the ones who keep saying stuff like "but your car can't transport 10 tons of garbage! who cares about leather seats, air conditioning, passenger capability, good suspension and music system! Think of all GARBAGE you can haul!"
Gee, if I wanted network server, I'd install Linux, but I want OS I can use to work, play, and use daily, so Linux is useless. I see no need to boot to something that does this stuff at 10% of the capacity, or 0% in case of better games and advanced programs, would rather save disc space and time.
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Originally, Unix was made to run of the CLI and it's more secure than Windows. Ubuntu is just Unix with a usable GUI. Meaning that if you get hacked, you're still safe. On top of that, for every program Windows has, there's always an alternative on Linux.
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alternative... yeah like GIMP is this alternative to PS... the problem with alternatives is that they cannot be compared to orginals.... it is like iPhone from USA and iPhone from China - you can get cheap iPhone from China with USB port, but at the end of the day you never know if it won't explode just for lulz..
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-fuckyou @petrick
LOL c'est tres horrible
Kept on freezing and took some time tk fix the i386 error
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(UBUNTU FIX) having issues with GPU Lockup? You should had pressed ALT+CTRL+F1 to open the Linux Terminal.
1) Login
2) Write these commands in this order:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
sudo apt-get install nvidia-current-updates
Don't worry about any possible errors, just write those commands in that order.
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I started using it when it was in beta. I don't use Ubuntu, so I had to jump through several hoops to get it to work. Afterward, it was a lot more stable than running through Wine. Even still, I have the Windows version installed through Wine to play games that aren't, or won't, be ported.
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It was a nice experience for me^^ but I have been using linux since I was 15. So, I didn't have too much of a problem getting it working.
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Failed install of Steam on Ubuntu. Crashes mid install repeatedly. 1 hour on google later I get the system upgraded, reattempt. Steam installs and TF2 installs. Critical driver error on TF2. System brought to its knees, takes 1 hour to disable programs and restart. 3 hours on google later I can now get error messages in a variety of styles or even disable the error message using peoples suggestions, no longer have system wide choas but TF2 still wont run.
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Plenty of space, full update and upgrade as of today, don't know if that means 12.04. Ubuntu doesn't fully support my nvidia, there are no alternative drivers as it is a custom GPU. The TF2 error appears to be some unsupported library problem nonrelated to steam or unix for that matter, but definitly graphic OpenGL related. According to forums for us lucky few with the conflict it is rarely fixable.
**edit I said DirectX but replies were correct, it wasn't that.
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That doesn't sound good. Upgrading any system tends to be a bad idea. Downgrading is going to be worse.
Did you have a separate partition for your home directory? This is important because you can reinstall without losing user data. You would only lose installed apps which can be reinstalled quickly using synaptics.
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Installing Ubuntu is really easy. Installing Steam and getting it to work is less easy. Installing TF2 and getting it to work is 50/50 from what I've seen in various forums. Uninstalling it all is harder than Chinese arithmetic. Took two separate shareware programs, the win 7 install DVD, a separate computer to look up the errors and issues I had the two different times my computer completely died and wouldn't even boot. And a lot of time and patience.
Currently the penguins are untradable. If they become tradable and are worth more than a couple keys each it still probably won't be worth the hassle.
Linux is a hobby. Not a real world usable OS.
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It takes too much time and effort to track down fixes for issues and crashes. It's great and comes with a large library of programs but it takes so much invested time to make it work correctly that it's a hobby. Real world OS should be usable out of the box. Not after a training class and hours of work to make it all fit together.
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It's a real world OS for specific applications. Not for home computer users. Not for the casual gamer. Both of whom are used to installing and going. Like I said, it's a great OS for specific applications. I'll probably set it up on an old XP machine for a media/printer server for my house. But it's a hobby OS. Not a real world OS. And I'm talking about all Linux versions. Not just Ubuntu
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Practical? Really?
"Red Hat is being used in airplanes."
"At least 90% of your real servers are running Linux like I said somewhere else."
How can this convince people to switch to linux? And where did you get that 90% stat from?
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As for why to switch to Linux, it's cause it's
As for the 90% stat, the two paragraphs below is directly copied from Wikipedia. Source here.
First paragraph: "Linux distributions have long been used as server operating systems, and have risen to prominence in that area; Netcraft reported in September 2006 that eight of the ten most reliable internet hosting companies ran Linux distributions on their web servers. Since June 2008, Linux distributions represented five of the top ten, FreeBSD three of ten, and Microsoft two of ten; since February 2010, Linux distributions represented six of the top ten, FreeBSD two of ten, and Microsoft one of ten."
Second paragraph: "Linux distributions are also commonly used as operating systems for supercomputers: since November 2010, out of the top 500 systems, 459 (91.8%) run a Linux distribution. Linux was also selected as the operating system for the world's most powerful supercomputer, IBM's Sequoia which was scheduled to become operational in 2011."
So now are you convinced enough?
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You don't have to convince me, I've been using multiple linux/unix distros for ~4,5 years.
So that 90% is about supercomputers which noone cares about. For example in web servers 33% is linux, 32% unix, 35% windows (source). But that has nothing to do with a regular PC user.
"1. FREE!"
Yes, but free shit isn't better than a shit you have to pay for. Nowadays people are buying already build desktops (which is stupid but they don't know any better) or laptops with preinstalled OS (mostly Windows) and they don't want to get rid of stuff they have payed a lot of $ for.
"2. Ubuntu is one of the easiest OSes to use."
And so is Windows. Ubuntu is not only easy but it's made for dummies. You have to google to find a way to change some basic stuff. It can be very frustrating for a basic user who wants to just customize his OS.
"3. Open-Source. Meaning you can customize the system to however you like."
Again, it has nothing to do with a regular PC user. Nobody is going to change something in the source code, then wait hours to recompile it just to find out that he made a stupid mistake and have to do it all over again.
Come on, I'm not against linux. It's just your desperate need to convince people that linux is way better than windows that's annoying.
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I'm not against it and I'm not for it. "Free stuff" will probably be more neutral :-)
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Um about your source, that's only what's shipped. It doesn't reflect what OS changes are made after. So all that's know is that 1/3 is shipped with Linux pre-installed. That's not quite helpful for Windows there.
As about your second point, what kind of stuff are you changing if you need to Google it? From what I've seen with the OS, only stuff like CLI.
As for the third point, a software being Open-Source means that it can be fixed way faster than regular production software. I've seen that myself personally and I'm just a "regular PC user".
As for supercomputers, there would be no such thing as weather reports.
And if you really don't care about Linux, why did you reply to my post?
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Personally, I spent more time trying to get Windows to work when I used to use it years ago. The difference is, on Linux I can see the source code of the system and track down nasty bugs and missing libraries myself instead of searching for hours for a fix from the developers, that may or may not exist.
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They will eventually be tradeable. However, there's no way they'll be worth a couple keys each. This promo is good til the end of the month, and anyone can get them for free on as many accounts as they want. Maybe if everybody didn't know about it, and it was for a very short limited time. It's just another promo that will be run into the ground.
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last version of ubuntu is just fine, really close to mainstream. if you don't feel so, you should have tried linux 20 years ago, when the kernel was beta to say something ;P
about steam on linux, it is not bad at all. it has some more way to walk, but valve is definitely making a strong bet about it.
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I'm using Ubuntu since 10.04, and I have very good opinion about this OS.
Automatic updates and drivers search - this helped me a lot, I couldn't find drivers for my very old laptop - I trying to search it for 3 months ! Linux searched & installed drivers in 5 minutes ;_;
That OS never crashed me since i'm using it, when windows was giving a lot of blue screens, lags and others errors Ubuntu is stable as hell.
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some weeks ago i had for the first time a serious memory problem, one module screwed and some memory addresses delivered bad values. in windows the pc just crashed badly, bsod at random moments. the same pc on linux (i'm multiboot) detected the problem (memory protection is not a fairy tale there) and it made a quick and controlled halt of the system, no crash at all!!
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i got the ram replaced... what i wanted to express is that linux proved much more robust than xp: better memory protection and journalled file system.
for sure: while it runs in my xp partition, my linux fails to run tf2 (shitty intel graphics) and i could not get my penguin so far:/
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thanks for the offer; i'll probably get a new gpu next week, but if i can't (before the tux item desappears) i'll call you:)
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Rock solid stability and open-source what more could we ask for?
Well Ubuntu is a corporation and their are some things within it that cannot be changed in the open-source environment. This being, because those pieces of code within the OS belong to the corporation. Not a lot of those bits and bytes belong to the Corp. One must realize by having this OS as a Corporate entity there leaves a portal open for abuse.
Still the best OS IMHO. If you want to avoid the Corporate scene all together then Debian would be my next choice, although is a bit more difficult to use for the non-tech savvy.
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Running Ubuntu since 6.06, but recently switched to Mint because i don't really like Unity.
Using Steam on Mint since the Beta started and i encountered zero issues so far. Most of the games run as good or in most cases even better than on my Win8 Setup. I just hope that more games are being ported in the future.
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No, there are a lot of people that are using a program to get it without installing Linux at all. It also changes your username, which I have to chuckle at. http://steamcommunity.com/actions/SearchFriends?p=1&K=i+cheated+for+a+tux
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I used Wibu to install Ubuntu 12.10 on one of my hard drives. The hard part it to install Steam. I can recommend to install all upgrades first, then install the latest graphic drivers (for nvidia: 310.xx using this script) and then install steam via command-line. Then run steam via command-line to see if any errors come up. After downloading TF2 just start it in textmode. Although my PC is kinda powerful (i5-2500k, GTX 560Ti, 8GB DDR3 Ram) it took ages to actually launch TF2 and the whole OS was very laggy.
Using a VM didn't work for me at all because there is not actual graphics card inside the VirtualBox and without proper graphic card drivers the steam-installation will just produce a lot of errors.
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I previously had Debian (testing branch amd64) but failed to get steam up and running due to dependency problems. Managed to solve most of them but ran into the libc6 error and couldn't seem to get past it.
As I am in the middle of trying new distros out, I decided just to wipe my system and installed Linux Lite (rather new distro, offshoot of ubuntu and uses their repos). And to my surprise, it comes with steam pre-installed. So if anyone wants to try it out and not go through the installation hassle, try it out. The distro is very easy to install as it's built for new users to Linux. It's lighter than ubuntu and fairly fast with xfce4 as the dm. Not my preference, but I'll be using it for the time being. Haven't downloaded any games for steam yet, but I'll get to it eventually.
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I installed Ubuntu 12.04 on a spare hard drive when I got a new motherboard 2 months ago so I would be ready for steam for Linux. Turns out I was not ready because I've had to roll-back and re-install the nvidia drivers twice now. When I get it to work I'm going to play FTL while I wait for tf2 to download.
What has your experience been like so far?
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