my paradox account games page is only showing stellaris -- do i have to launch the game and sign in? it was in my backlog before it went f2p but i've never installed it so maybe my paradox account doesn't know i have it?
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If there is still no CK2: The Old Gods at your paradox games page, then try to unlink steam account at settings page, go back to games page and refresh it.
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that made stellaris go away and now there's nothing there.
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Hmm, it worked for me. My acc: https://imgur.com/POP5Bfo
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Apparently, now the keys are showing up here....and I can't even.
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They're free. You can already grab your own now right away instead of waiting in a pool and never getting the key. It's moot having to put them up at this time.
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Not everyone wants or care enough to register to a site just for a free DLC. From what I have heard some/all gets two keys.
And kind of ironic concidering the only GAs you have created are for free games.
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1) I'm pretty sure you don't get extra keys for this since I've signed up myself. For having an account, you get extra goodies, so it's more than just for signing up for this.
2) It's not ironic. I gave away keys that were limited, and even one of them well after you couldn't buy the game anymore anyway.
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Well, thats why I said some/all, because some said they received two keys.
I still think its ironic. And now Im sad beause I cant join your next free game you are going to give away because you have blacklisted me. I guess the truth hurts when you blame others for giving away free stuff and does the same thing yourself. Even if you "wait" to give it away.
I dont create alot of giveaways myself, but even if I did I wouldnt try to blame others for giving away a copy they dont want. Specially since they will receive no cv for it.
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No, I'm saying you actually don't get extra keys through this. Whoever said that to you must've actually received them through other sorts of promotions. This one was easy as pie to get, and one puts themselves at a disadvantage for not doing it if they are entering a GA on SG to expect a key. It's absurd. That's the point you're missing.
It's still not ironic because you are not making the point you think you're making and you were wrong. I didn't do the same thing they did. I gave away keys that were less accessible to others, since they were limited. As in, it was for the people who couldn't get it themselves through other GAs that had either expired or was not available to them.
You were blacklisted because you kept being rude and argumentative.
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Yes, look how rude and argumentative I was. :)
Not everyone wants or care enough to register to a site just for a free DLC. From what I have heard some/all gets two keys.
And kind of ironic concidering the only GAs you have created are for free games.
And yes, some did get two keys because this promotion didnt work like it should have. Me and some others didnt even get a key until several days later while some like I said got two.
I cant help you if you dont get how funny it is when you "can't even." when people tried to give this DLC away on this site. (Which is Ok according to the rules, because free games gives no CV.) When you yourself have ONLY given away free games, and then make the argument, its OK from your point of view because the promotion for the other sites where over :)
Anyway, I just wanted to know what you ment with your fist statement and didnt expect you to try to defend yourself like I was somehow wrong in what I wrote. So have a nice day I guess.
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No. And you continue to argue which is why you remain on the blacklist.
No part of the promotion implies you get duplicate codes. None of it. Those people must have gotten it through a glitch or a different retroactive promotion (There is a glitch going on now that is preventing some people from obtaining their codes currently, in fact). It does not come from the DLC, which BTW, is not free without said promotion.
In that case, it's a waste of SG points to enter a SG GA while there is an ongoing open one. An open GA, which means everyone could get theirs, not one key for 1 winner in a pool of x amount of people. It's superfluous, and stupid. People would be cheating themselves out of an easy opportunity.
Again, my GAs were not free games either. I gave away codes from limited promotions exclusive to me, as I already had the games prior. My GAs did not occur during open promotions like what Paradox is doing, so this is not even remotely similar.
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No. And you continue to argue which is why you remain on the blacklist.
No offense but a blacklist only means something if the person blacklisting gives away (non-free) games ;)
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I am totally aware of this, I'm not new. I don't want him in my GAs.
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I cant join your GAs anyway concidering that you dont create normal GAs that I dont own.
And btw, its not arguing. Its called conversation. If not, you are the one arguing since you are trying to defend that you dont giveaway free games because the "promotion is over".
And just a tip. If you dont want me to answer, maybe not reply. Because answering is arguing in your world, and thats not something you want.
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No, you were arguing, because you were attempting to refute a point and insult me by claiming I was making giveaways like the people I said were doing, and I explained to you twice how they were not remotely the same thing. You lost the argument already by not understanding the point and further exacerbated by trying to discredit me on a false narrative. I gave away games when there was either no promotion for them at the time, or they weren't accessible to everyone.
The promotion of the DLC for CK II is 100% accessible to everyone who simply enters and email address and has a Paradox account. Takes a couple minutes out of your day. It's not a competition. Putting it on SG creates a competition because only one random person is gonna have a key and cheat out everyone else who enters. People shouldn't be entering at all, let alone having the GA exist. If this was happening after the promotion was over, I wouldn't have said anything about it. All I said was it was disingenuous having to have the GAs when everyone entering them already could have gotten their own without it. Again, not even comparable to my GAs, and I don't care if I don't have "normal" GAs for your satisfaction. It's a good thing you're not gonna be getting them. Just stop.
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lol, you keep saying Im arguing with you, but you cant really help yourself, can you? I just asked a question because it was hard to understand what you really ment. You acted like people arent allowed to create GAs for currently free games which has been allowed for probably longer then you have been a member. Specially since when I looked at your profile and saw two gibs for free games. (only GAs) Its hard to grasp that you dont see the hypocrisy and dont think its the same because "promotion was over". If a game has been given away for free its added to a list by that date and gives no CV, no matter how long time its been.
People can enter what GAs they want and create how much they want. But what I dont understand is when you blatantly call people stupid for entering this GA and "cant even" for people trying to give it away.
But to be fair, I "couldnt even" when you commented when I saw what you had previously given away, so we are in the same boat with what we cant.
Im happily awaiting your next "argue", because apparently you want others to stop, but you seem to have a problem to practice what you preech from the little I have seen of you. Just stop, I couldnt get nothing out of nothing. Your point is moot.
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You are arguing because you keep trying to make the same point when you were WRONG! I wasn't preventing anyone from making a GA, I criticized it because it was dumb to having one right now begin with. You should have left it at that a long time ago, but oh no, you kept arguing and being wrong about what I did.
They were NOT free games. One was from a GA on a limited time basis AND not everyone gets one anyway because they are first come, first served and I happened to grab it. You still have to buy the games sans any GA.
The other one was NOT a free game, I got a key from a different place when I already had the game. I made the giveaway well AFTER there was a giveaway for them, and months AFTER the game was removed from Steam so you couldn't directly buy them let alone have a GA for them at the time.
So again, you keep being wrong since you don't know what you're talking about. Just stop.
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I told you to stop, so stop. You didn't win. You were wrong.
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Dude, STOP! The way you are behaving by responding and trying to be snarky after YOU lost the argument, exacerbates the problem. I said stop, so STOP!
And, it IS a competition by definition. Not everyone gets the prize.
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Upon rechecking your giveaways I can now see that they where in fact Full CV giveaways. Must be a bug on steamgifts part. Sorry for the mistake. I was sure I was right but in hindsight the whole situation feels wierd since I was wrong.
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so sad, i guess no dlc for me :( how lucky im
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To me they said it should be fixed by the end of this week. There where so many signups and they are a little behind because they spent last week at PDXCon and they also moved offices.
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fact they gave you some date makes me hopeful, sadly in my experience when i get this kind of massage from any support it means= sorry your problem is too specific for us to bother with
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I have never received any massage from support. Hope you can take a joke :)
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it flew bit over my had, but thats okay, got my key so time to celebrate by starting the 500 hours long learning phase of CK 2 by playing as Perun and Radegast followers... or bit later
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you dont even have to confirm your email. just activated it.
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Nothing for me either I guess (and I confirmed the sub, sigh)
I click on manage, and nada.. I mean it doesn't say they're ran out of keys, it's just empty
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that's just it: there's nothing to scroll. There's nothing there, the page doesn't have a box or something so there's nothing below.
Also, the website now says: "We are experiencing technical difficulties with giving out the Old Gods DLC for Crusader Kings II."
EDIT: just tried and now it worked, there is now the details box with the key, claimed! (which wasn't there the earlier days) so yeah, they came forward. Thanks OP for the info!
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so they give for free the first DLC ("main game)" then we can buy the rest of the game for 154 Euros?
nice try!!!! but no thanks!!!
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What? The main game has become f2p. They also give away a DLC.
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and here ladies and gentlemans.. we have a kid that doesn't lived in the gold era of videogames.
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I have no idea what you are talking about. You called main game a DLC. Main game used to cost money. Main story takes like 65 hours to beat according to hltb.
Now its f2p, and they also give a DLC on their site.
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https://statics.vrutal.com/hm/2015/04/VRU_41791_los_videojuegos_hoy_en_dia.jpg
i hope you understand now with that image.
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This image is such a lie. Why are you dishonest?
Here are some examples:
Dawn of war 1 would cost (50+40*3=170€) for the complete experience.
Empire at war expansion cost half the game yet added 1 faction, a couple of levels and a new campaign (that re-uses a lot of base game)
C&C expansions cost half the base game yet add 1 factions and barely update the base game races.
Even some of the best expansion such as brood war don't even bother to add a new race.
C&C was released when?1998?or thereabouts? so when is that fantasy time where strategy games had expansions that are much more meaty then most CK2 DLC?
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dawn of war are 1 main game + 6 expansions. not 1 main game + 3 DLC
seems that you don't know the diferences between a DLC and expansion.
so sad, google it a bit then came again here and replie again if you want.
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Again you are being dishonest. its dawn of war (base game); Winter Assault, Dark Crusade, and Soulstorm. Can I ask where are the other 2 expansions? If you are making up stuff facts don't matter
Winter assault has 1 new race + 2 campaigns that re-use a lot off assets. It cost (at least here in portugal 40€).
For ck2 with 40 € you can get 2 major DLC + 1 minor DLC so you would get something like this:
1 new campaign at a new earlier start date + completely new race + 5-10 new mechanics + 6 new cosmetic packs This is not that different from a traditional expansion, its slightly more.
You know what is sad? you use an image that is a lie by any and all metrics you can use! AND when called about it you make stuff up as well as do an ad hominem for a comment.
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wow my fail on dawn of war, i wanted to say +3 expansions i just hit the number 6 instead (i use the right side of the keyboard for numbers).
about the second thing, google the diferences about DLC and expansion, then come back again because obviously you don't do it.
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you fail a lot.
- fake image
- fake dawn of war expansions
- fake destinction between dlc and expansion
- fake facts by hyperbolizing
- fake arguments since you don't use examples
- uses ad hominem
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seems that you are happy in your ignorance or you are just trolling right now, i really hope it's the second.... because at least you will have a chance to change.
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what of the above is not a fact?
And why are you doing an ad hominem again with "ignorance or troll"?
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I suspected your point was as the image suggested. But that didnt make any sense considering the game in question.
Thats why I explained to you how long the main game is.
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ohh no? why?
even if the name in shop say expansion in some of them, they are DLCs with barely any content, plus for example this "Expansion - Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion" you can't start with aztec civilization and make you unable to win some archivements.
so no, they aren't expansions, they are just DLCs with a bit more of "content" not a game (aka expansion)
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please explain the difference between "DLC" and "Expansion"
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I know what my understanding is, but I'm not clear what your understanding is.
DLC means additional content that can be downloaded. This can range from small cosmetic items, to new levels, new mechanics, or even complete overhauls of the game.
Expansion means an add-on to a game. This can range from small cosmetic items, to new levels, new mechanics, or even complete overhauls of the game.
Quite simply, DLC and Expansion are synonyms. technically speaking, DLC is the method by which Expansions are provided (downloadable, as opposed to disc)
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new small cosmetics are not expansions, your understanding it's bad.
DLCs and expansions are not synonyms.
let''s say the next to make you understand it (isn't exactly accurate but at least you will get an idea)
Expasion = 100000000000 DLCs
DLCs = 1 thing
a lot of DLCs in the actual time = main game
500000 DLCs later = main game + 1 expansion
1000000000000000 DLCs later = complete game collection
expansion it's a full game using the base of the main game with all his 50000 new items all his 100000 new quests all his 50 new mechanics, basically a new full game using the main game as base to add a new full content of all kinds in just one pay of around 80-100% price of the base game.
DLCs it's just cancer that add almost nothing to the game (skins / 1 new character playable / 1 new map / soundtraks etc....)
with the actual market you need to pay around 200% to 300% more than the base game for a real expansion equivalent in DLCs.
yeah we now have collector editions / legend editions but these are not main game + expansions, these are just main game + little DLCs that add almost nothing to the game but enough to make you feel that you don't have the full game (now we have "expasions" of 25$ cost that just add 1 hour of gameplay, that's NOT an expasion it's a DLC that should cost 1$)
if you can't see the diference you have a real problem as a customer, you are buying without any knowledge about what you are doing and about what you are buying.
expansion = new game full content getting the base of the main game for add more content to the original game (and when i say add i mean that add 100% similar content or even more grim dawn game it's a good example in that point)
DLCs = a really little portion of an expansion equivalent.
now how i toold you before and you don't do it, google it for a better "definition" and explanation from a real english native speaker language, because i can't explain well in english and what i said here it's just an idea with my bad english knowledge. I would explain better in my own language.
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I understand your idea:
DLC is small, minor addition to the game
Expansion is large, major addition to the game
That can be quite subjective as to whether something is "DLC" or "Expansion"
In some games, it's very clear - X-COM's slingshot pack is DLC (3 extra missions), X-Com Enemy Within is Expansion - it adds new mechanics, new resources, new abilities, new alien types, etc.
For Crusader Kings II, there are some clear "DLC" - being portrait packs and music packs. That's easy to agree on. But the larger "packs" are more subtle - Horse Lords, for example, provides an entirely different way of playing the game, but if you don't choose to play as one of those cultures, you may never notice the difference - and it's entirely possible to play an entire game without coming into contact with any of them. Some of the other mechanics are more subtle, such as Conclave, which significantly fleshes out councils and child education, in a way that quickly feels like it's always been part of the game. As those interactions aren't continuous, after a while you don't even notice the difference.
and yes, I'll agree, sunset invasion is fucking bullshit
It's certainly open to debate whether the larger packs are worthwhile - I certainly wouldn't pay $100+ for them - but what I can tell you is that playing with all the expansions turned off is a very different game from playing with all the expansions turned off. I've seen other game series where full-on sequels don't have anywhere near as many changes as CKII with and without expansions.
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Easier example...
Total Annihilation - base game
TA: The Core Contingency - expansion
TA weekly downloadable units - DLC
TA mod community - mods
(TA: Battle Tactics - also an expansion, and more in line with the scope of most expansions back then; TACC was honestly an bit of an outlier in how big it was.)
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as someone who's never played Total Annihilation, I have no idea what you're talking about.
But I do actually know the difference between DLC and Expansion - both the technical difference, and the perceived difference.
A good example is Total War's Unit Packs (DLC) and Campaign Packs (Expansions)
Another example id Dragon Age: Origins. Awakenings is clearly an expansion, adding an extra 10 hours of gameplay. The Stone Prisoner is DLC - it adds a new character and a new location, but it only adds 1-3 hours of gameplay. (but then, what do we call Blood Armor, which merely adds a few items and no gameplay whatsoever?)
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Like I told. Akzeriuth Most AAA expansions (specially on strategy games) offer less content then ck2 DLC at the same price point.
Looking at your example.
TA:core contingency has around 10 missions for each off the 2 campaigns, some new units and a lot a new maps for multi. This cost around 50€ at the time of launch in my country.
For 50€ in ck2 you can get:
3 new factions, 2 new starting dates, 8 completely new mechanics and around 14 new cosmetic packs.
I'll re-iterate, The Core Contingency adds much less content then the equivalent cost of Ck2 DLC.
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Started a new game for the first time in ages.
Ripped out my eye as a sacrifice to the gods - died from an infection
18 year old heir gets invited to dinner by a count - dies from food poisoning
Game over in under a year
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Hey,
We do not allow linking to offers where users are required to perform extra action in order to receive game or DLC. And requirement to subscribe to newsletter is not any different from requirement to like facebook or follow twitter.
It would be fine if users would need to only give them their e-mail, without need to agree for marketing e-mails, as devs need to have a way to deliver code to the users.
I know this offer is up for a week already, but I will still ask you to remove part about DLC from OP post.
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Crusader Kings II switched to Free To Play
https://store.steampowered.com/app/203770/Crusader_Kings_II/
Source
https://steamcommunity.com/games/203770/announcements/detail/1569993750888840905
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