Indie gala 4-$5 bucks on S.Gifts.....
Indiviual price of indiegala pack on S.Gifts -$15
See the difference. I only put them here because i have so many. I mean....who else do you give them to lol. There should be a separate section for bundles and such.

if ($userid$ = $steamappid$ . $steamappid2$ . $setamappid3$.)
$contributionbundle == ($steamappid$ + $steamappid2$ + $setamappid3$) / 3
$contributiontotal$ = "$".$contribtutionbundle$ + $contribution$
Use some code of that sort :)

A subforum for bundle keys would be filled with lurkers, I think.

I think a separate section would be nice.

Maybe make an option to giveaway the game but have it marked as bundle key or something like that then make it worth only like a point

Was the original issue being that bundle policy disallowed giving away individual keys? If so, I believe that should be honored with an effort, but of course impossible to completely eliminate.

If not, the other issue is because it spams the public giveaways or inflates user points for less than credited value. If so, perhaps a special kind of giveaway such as contributor, private, and group that is marked as Bundle? It would go for a lower value than the actual game and actual gifted copies can be differentiated. Using a filter can also remove these giveaways from someones page.

To develop an unexploitible system for this will be difficult :/ . If I get any ideas to help out I will come back and post it here.

On giveaway creation there could be a choice for if it's either a bundle key or a gift. That could determine how the giveaway is being handled (and if there are categories, it would be put there) and if it affects feedback or not.

I understand that not all people are just naive and haven't read the rules. Some will just bypass that and pretend it's not from a bundle anyway to get the feedback. There could be an extra verification on the winner feedback, to check if that was a key after all or not. (Most keys that come from bundles are quite known already and I've seen people pretend they are from unknown sources too many times, even in closed groups)

Not sure if that makes sense. It would be a bit hard to implement though and needs more variables. Other than that, there could be extra people handling removing those? Or have a huge warning in the creation page about bundle keys for a start, though as I mentioned lots are doing it knowing the policy thus it won't make a difference.

sigh
/pat

I don't know if it'd work but perhaps you could try making a subforum where keys can be handed out and only people giving keys out can post. For example when the person giving the keys creates the topic it is set so that no one can reply, it would just be the original post. That could keep the begging down but then there's always the issue of people creating topics just to beg...

Hopefully that makes sense.

Maybe make bundle keys Few points or 0 points to enter?
And maybe a separate part of steamgifts? Like it's own little section, but not it's own site.

How about when a new bundle is launched, all giveaways created with Steam games in the bundle will automatically be put into a special section. The only way to get it out is to prove that it is not a key from a bundle, i.e. showing that it is in the user's Steam inventory. And the special section makes it so that any giveaways there give either less points than normal or no points at all, due to the fact that it would be flooded with giveaways.

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I like the idea of a "separate section" for giveaways that is bundle key :)

Chat giveaways is the best solution.

Separate option when you select a game that's been in a bundle allow people to choose: "Bundle key" instead of regular game giveaway.

Perhaps a popup or extra step specifically for games that are known to be bundle keys. It won't stop those that exploit, but could weed out a certain amount.

A penalty system if one or more giveaways are cancelled. Perhaps a tiered penalty, probation stuff. Examples: Locking an account from making more giveaways (limited time?), or reducing total amount of available giveaway entries, or locking this user from using their own points.

Maybe forcing known bundle keys to have a minimum amount of time to be put up, giving it ample time to be found, and removed. Maybe having the "Report" system effectively drop the Point worth of the item the person is giving away (While not altering the entry point requirement to avoid exploiting).

No way to stop this all together. I don't envy your task.

"How about a "separate section" for giveaways that is bundle key only that doesn't affect points or feedback, just as a way for people to generously gift their leftover keys."

A system like this is what I had in mind. The only problem however, is that there has been a rise in bundle key giveaways recently since the contributor giveaways have been announced. I don't think adding this system will stop the people who have just recently started making giveaways from continuing to make them as normal giveaways.

Increase the entry amount to absurdity and have a seperate section.

Regular Section and Bundle Section and double the point requirements.

Need to use 150 points to post bundle giveaways muahahah. (easily cut it down by 90%)

Why are the giant key giveaway threads bad?

The only problem is the people who buy 10 packets per 1 cent

I have many keys of games that already had

but I'm not sure which would be a good solution for this problem

Given that we are capped at 300 points and the volume of users has increased dramatically, I think allowing them in as-is seems reasonable. Maybe a separate section so those entering know it is for a key, but I don't see any imbalance in letting their full value count. After all, sale games go for retail which is ofttimes even a more dramatic % off than the bundle keys. I can see some issue with contributor giveaways, but maybe just tweak those requirements to solve that lone issue

The more giveaways, the better.

I know some other sites have been able to use the Steam API to confirm the contents of someone's inventory - for example, last time I used steamexchange.com I was only able to make offers with items in my public inventory. Perhaps something like that would have merit in cutting down both bundle keys and fake giveaways, even if it only required setting the inventory to public long enough to create the giveaway?

Disclaimers: I don't know how much of a burden creating such a check would be for the administrators. Some other measures would probably have to be put in place to deal with legitimate, non-bundle key giveaways (e.g. Amazon keys). And there are probably other unintended consequences that I'm not even thinking of. Just throwing it out there as one possibility, in case someone smarter than me sees a way to make it work.

1000th comment.
I support allowing keys to be submitted, however at a price. They should NOT add anything to a person's stats, no increased giveaway count, no raised "donation" amount, nothing. Your not suppose to get anything for submitting bundle keys now, why should that change? They should cost points to enter, but generate no points for users.

Currently active bundles could be removed from the game selection menu. IE indie gala is active so Razor, Bad Rats, Iron Glads, etc would not be selectable in the giveaway menu.

The report system should be changed. Instead of only being able to hit report, there should be several types of reporting to allow easier handling for the mod/s. 1 for invalid giveaway (IE user does not have it), 1 for bundle key, and 1 for other issues that the first two dont cover for some reason.

Having a reported giveaway turn red or be highlighted in some way on the home page (for the user that reported it) would be nice and speed up users that are diligent and report giveaways they find. I often run down the entire menu and report giveaways.

The submission system should be changed. When you create a giveaway, a separate tier should be given just for keys or for steam tradable games. Have the option right above the current game selection menu, and have users select if its tradable or a key to unlock the game selection. Currently its just the one scroll down menu, have this one grayed out until the submission status is selected. A third option perhaps would be to have "Key - From a bundle". If a user selects this they should be informed that they will not receive points for these. How to handle users simply selecting a normal key and lying its from IGN or something no idea, though there is no way to really know now so...

Also allow users to flag individual accounts for review.
Users found to be in violation of this should be instantly banned OR have their account reset instead of a suspension or something. With 7-16k accounts, a few dropped for not following the rules wont be missed. IMO.
All giveaways that have ended should be visible on a user's account, this would prevent people from padding accounts privately. This would allow those in violation of the bundle policy to be found a lot quicker unless of course they do nothing but private giveaways...

If you really want to cut down on violations, you might want to consider having people leave their inventories open and or have gifters submit some kind of screen shot along with their key giveaways to show where the key came from. The screenshot would be viewable only to a mod IF an account or giveaway is reported enough to draw attention.

Having a separate section or a way to hide key giveaways would also be nice if not required.

Perhaps you could allow a ticky box "this is a bundle key" which would make the identification sort of self-policing, and then have those be worth the amount of points for entry/earning that would be reasonable to curb inflation?

I would think most folks would honestly identify the bundle keys, and it'd be great to give them away. Sometimes, I don't have any friends who want a certain key, and then I just add it to my account even though I wouldn't play it. And that's without getting into doubles.

I was under the impression that individual keys from bundles were not giftable because bundle creators wanted them to be a... bundle.

Simple solution:

With the extreme commonness of people trying to make giveaways of bundle keys, and the relative rarity of people making legitimate giveaways for those same games, the easiest thing to do would likely be to simply change the status of giveaways of those games to being bundle keys by default and have no impact on points or feedback. In the event someone actually wants to make a legitimate giveaway for the game, they must submit a support ticket and provide proof to have the giveaway made. This way, people are prevented from exploiting the system and even people making legitimate giveaways are not prevented from doing so. People who can't be bothered to read the FAQ or otherwise learn policy just don't get their feedback, etc., which seems a reasonable and fitting outcome. If they can later provide proof after learning about it, it could always be changed with a support ticket. This should streamline and reduce the workload considerably while allowing people to freely give away their keys while minimizing the potential for abuse.

Edit: I forgot that this would be instituted on a time-limited basis. Should it run from the launch until one month after the bundle ends? Three months? Six months? I don't have a definite suggestion there other than to say I think two months would probably be sufficient to prevent most of the problems.

Second edit: These could all, of course, be in a separate bundle key giveaway section to cut down on mass giveaway spam.

"There are too many giveaways for that game right now, please wait until a few of those giveaways have run their course or maybe gift a different game, or give it away in the forums!"
That's the best suggestion I can think of. It would mostly work automatically, administration would be easier (up to you if you decide to respect individual Bundle site policies disallowing multiple users per purchase), although it would have its fairly straightforward down sides.

Possibly tie it in with the existing giveaway limits such that users who've given away many games don't hit the limit as quickly as a new user would. (This would assume the no-bundle-keys policy would still be in effect and just respects that long-time gifters not giving bundle keys would otherwise hate the limits.)