yes, it's definitely interesting to even discuss this topic.
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In English "Greek yogurt" is a term describing a specific kind of yogurt. I'm not sure which, but I think it's firmer than the "default yogurt".
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It get filtered, so the solids stay in, while it contains less fluids - creamier, with a higher protein content.
"Greek style" is achieving similar consistency with thickeners, often having similar or even lower protein content than standard yogurt.
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Originally, greek yogurt has a high fat concentration around 10% which gives it its creaminess and rich taste, but nowadays there's also low fat, high protein variants around.
I went to Greece with my parents a couple of times as a kid and I loved γιαούρτι με μέλι (giaoúrti me méli). It's just greek yogurt with honey and usually some walnuts sprinkled over it, but it was soo good.
I can also very much recommend the icelandic Skyr, which is a similarly stiff and creamy milk product with low fat and high protein content.
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I love greek yoghurt. Very creamy and don't need much other stuff in it. Perfect with only honey or with fruits.
But Skyr isn't similar and i absolutely don't like it, it's ugly, like puked yoghurt with big "yoghurt pieces" (goes in the direction of feta), bahhhhh. Nope, nope, double nope.
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If you had chunks in it, you either didn't have actual Skyr or it was too old or something. I've never had that happen and I've been eating it for years now. It has no similarities with Feta at all, not in taste and not in texture. It is creamy, not crumbly or chunky. There's no salt in it at all. Are you sure, you're not confusing it with Ayran (salted) or Clotted Cream (clots) or Cottage cheese (chunks) or something?
Sometimes, a little fluid will separate at the top. But - just like with yoghurt - with a little stir, it will be smooth and dandy again. What is true is, that pure Skyr will taste a bit bland or slightly sour compared to greek yoghurt, mostly due to the low fat, but combined with fruit or vanilla or honey or any flavor of your choice, it's great.
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I had Skyr multiple times, from different companies, so no, it weren't too old or they sell it always old in the REWE and Edeka shops :D
And yes, it doesn't tase salty like feta, i only took feta as exmaple for the direction that skyr goes when you compare it with greek yoghurt.
Es ist nicht so fest wie Feta und schmeckt auch nicht wie Feta aber es ist "klumpiger" als Greek yoghurt und normaler Yoghurt.
Keine Ahnung wie ich das besser beschreiben kann.
Aber der Geschmack ist viel schlechter als bei greek und normalem Joghurt.
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Ich hab echt absolut keine Ahnung, was Du mit "klumpig" meinst. Ich hab auch zig verschiedene durch. Arla, verschiedene Eigenmarken von Rewe, Edeka, Aldi etc.. Skyr ist relativ steif und cremig, irgendwo zwischen Quark und normalem Joghurt, also ziemlich genau da, wo auch griechischer Joghurt von der Konsistenz her ist. Fester als normaler Joghurt, cremiger als Quark. Ich hab noch nie auch nur ansatzweise so etwas wie Stückchen oder Klumpen im Skyr gehabt.
Naturskyr ist geschmacklich relativ neutral mit einer leicht säuerlichen Note, da schmeckt griechischer Joghurt pur etwas süßlicher, auch durch den hohen Fettanteil. Normaler Naturjoghurt pur wiederum schmeckt säuerlicher als Naturskyr. Aber mit Früchten oder Honig oder was auch immer Du reintun magst, schmeckt Skyr super. Ich kann mir nur vorstellen, dass Du so sehr an den hohen Fettanteil als Geschmacksträger/-verstärker gewöhnt bist, dass Dir der direkte Vergleich nicht schmeckt.
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Food stuff is rarely that cleancut yeah, it's easy to get into situations when one has to learn some new things. Crazy how important foods are both historically, and culturally. Despite the differences, food is usually a great connection point between people, or cultures ^^
I don't know how traditional the skyr could have been that I got from a supermarket, but it was a gloriously dense and smooth (but "packed", not fluid at all) dairy. It was really pleasant as well.
It's sad how price hikes happen, but even more how the quality tends to drop. I would be more okay with more expensive but good quality product, than be somewhat cheaper, but unpleasant at the same time.
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That part is a separate paragraph about "greek style", not actual greek (as quality or type) yogurt. Like how you can have milk, or "milky drink", icecream or "frozen dessert". Can't call it the real thing because lacking quality, method or required macros , so call it similar/confusing.
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Принадлежи на България. Шибаняк.
Lactobacillus bulgaricus!!!!
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Yoghurt is originally a Turkish food product. Historical records show that it was first produced by the Turks in Central Asia and later spread to Anatolia and Europe through migration. The word "yoghurt" itself comes from the Turkish verb "yoğurmak," meaning "to knead" or "to thicken."
For thousands of years, Turks have been making yogurt as both a nutritious food source and a long-lasting dairy product. During the Ottoman era, yoghurt became popular in Europe and especially in the Balkans. Greece later developed its own variation, known as Greek yoghurt (strained yoghurt), which has a thicker consistency.
In conclusion, yoghurt has Turkish origins, but different countries have created their own versions over time.
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What the hell :D i just made a joke. What happened here?! Who cares yoghurt belongs to which calture or people? You can check these for more fight.
Yoghurt in Wikipedia
Yoghurt in another site
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Whenever I see "edamame" I think of two things: cheese, and that one song.
Except the cheese is called Edam, not Edamame.
lol
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waste we dump into the ocean is absorbed into all the things living in them and it builds up, especially the higher up the food chain
It's not just from the oceans, but all animal origin foods contain toxins (e.g.. dioxins). Probably plants & pesticides are an issue too. The new concern is micro-plastics though.
Obviously the solution is to stop eating.
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No, the solution is stop using highly dangerous compounds in industry then dumping them.
Dioxins are already a thing of the past in much of the world, I'm sure developing countries still use them.
One would think at some point something would be done about the plastic situation but with economic concerns being put before health concerns I'm not sure it will happen.
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Until companies are made to be responsible for the consequences of their products (e.g. on health, on the environment) it's a fantasy to think they would stop voluntarily.
I've always thought that companies should be made responsible for the recycling of their own products, which I would expect would mean those products become more easily and cheaper to recycle (no idea how that would work practically though).
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Government oversight and/or fines/lawsuits. Sadly politicians take "donations" from corporations to "look the other way". A prime example of this is big oil/coal. They also have entire law firms at their disposal which makes the legal route nearly impossible without government backing. It also does not help that a lot of "hippies" or activists are quite mentally unstable and easily branded as eco-terrorists or just plain old nutjobs.
Things are changing but so slowly and so late that it honestly doesn't matter at this point, the tipping point was already passed. All we can do is try to slow it down then figure out how to live in a global hothouse hell hole. Once most of the carbon spewing lifeforms die and enough time passes all those greenhouse gasses will diminish, mostly locked away underground and in new forest growth, and cooling will occur. It's happened many times in the past, just this time it's happening because of us.
As far as making the planet uninhabitable goes, that would be nearly impossible. We would have to destroy the magnetosphere somehow, at least that's my understanding. Short of that, the planet will heal from anything eventually. Possibly if we released so much greenhouse gas that the seas actually started to boil but that's pretty far fetched. I think that even if we completely depleted the ozone layer that it would eventually reform.
But who knows maybe people will actually wake up and go beyond reducing pollution into actually cleaning up what's been done by building plants that pull carbon out of the air among other things. They exist but they certainly are not profitable or cheap or efficient. Only time will tell. My money's on most people vehemently denying it right up till the end. Anyone alive now will probably be dead by then anyway, maybe that's why most people don't seem to care.
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even if you were to stop it completely, forever, plastics have a long, loooong life in the environment (the toxins too, asbestos for example?). not that i think it will ever happen, i mean, have you seen how many mouths we have to feed in this planet? the tendency is for everything to get worse. but maybe the next pandemics will take care of that?
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Plastics, along with toxic/nuclear waste biproducts last for thousand or even millions of years. But simply dumping it all in the ocean is an outmoded ideology(sweeping it under the rug). There are some sites where material is stored but it's carted there and forgotten, not maintained, and so after some decades containment is lost and the material leaks into the soil and even the water table thus making the entire venture pointless. Any entity making these biproducts(including governments) should be held accountable for them in perpetuity, then maybe they will start looking into more sustainable eco friendly means instead of trying to cut corners at everyone's expense.
One interesting bit of news is we have found some strains of bacteria that can break down a few types of plastic but sadly the process is very slow and we produce plastic much faster than it could be broken down and again it is only a few types of plastic. So again it's just putting a band-aid on a gut shot. By the time most gen-z/millennial anti-vaxxer flat earthers who force their pets to share their vegan diet figure out all their social media influencer heroes were feeding them full of crap they were paid to say by corporate sponsors it will be too late to even slow the process.
I'm just going to kick back, laugh and watch the world burn while I play Fallout. The only cherry on top would be if someone actually pushes the big red button.
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Like hippo says, it's all futile. Heck, when we eat outside, how would one be sure that the produce used is top-notch or even decent. Same with stuff sold in a local market or any mart. How would one know for sure if the tomatoes/chicken we're eating aren't heavily dosed with pesticides/antibiotics. Or the organic stuff isn't dosed heavily with organic fertilizers. Regulation is terrible in most places across the globe. We can never know for certain. But then again, I don't belong to a developed country with strict, severe checks on production. Growing your own produce, cooking every meal is quite impractical in a fast-paced economy.
The best thing IMO is to diversify your consumption and aim to have a balanced diet with all the essentials. Consuming ultra processed food, sugar with moderation and having an exercise regimen. Maybe even hold the authorities accountable, but that's a huge ask from the average working person.
Of course, this opinion is laced with privilege. What if one lives where the veggies are highly contaminated or doesn't have multiple options to buy from. Then there is a problem of affordability and time. Solace is that we all will somehow survive, multiple generations have survived PFAS utensils. We have come to ban PFAS, adopted PTFE, learned about it being inert. We will hopefully survive other unknowns as well. 🤞
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It's not futile. There are plenty of options. I have chickens and they really don't require too much space. Growing vegetables is pretty easy and doesn't require much space either. Everyone seems to think you absolutely have to live in a concrete jungle these days in a tiny little apartment and that just isn't true. Even so you can still go to a local farmer market once or twice a week for fresh produce.
My main concern is not consuming heavy metals which are very bad for you and to that end cut fish out of my diet. Where there is a will there is a way.
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First of all, it's nice that you're thinking about food at all! I also started small, but now my food is no longer bland and my taste buds are slowly adapting again.
But I noticed one thing straight away: You eat bacon and all sorts of unhealthy things, BUT the milk has reduced fat?
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Your body needs fat and sugar along with all the "healthy" things. If you ate pure protein with a vitamin supplement your body would actually burn the protein as if it were a carb(sugar) and turn the rest into fat. This is why there are actually daily recommendations for fat and carbs. An egg and bacon sandwich with a glass of reduced fat milk in the morning is a good start, plenty of protein/fat/carbs and vitamins/minerals.
As for butter and sugar as flavoring, again the body needs fat/carbs but it's about moderation. I think a 28oz can of baked beans has the same amount of sugar as a 20oz bottle of Coca cola and it's obviously way better for you. A tablespoon of butter on Edamame isn't going to hurt either. I'd rather reduce the fat in the milk, which isn't needed because milk tastes just fine, and add it to the food to make it more palatable. As long as you don't go overboard with the fat and carbs it should be fine. If you are more active you can get away with a bit more as your body will use it.
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very true but salt is an important mineral to life and it's found naturally in unprocessed food as well
it's just a lot more convenient to buy already breaded chicken meat that taste just right as opposed to spending more money to buy raw then buy seasoning and make it yourself
I don't eat my chicken, I just have them for eggs
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But you are it with Cheetos, which is salt PLUS some ugly stuff (yes, I eat Cheetos myself, just the jp version , probably different bad stuff in it 😂😆). So whole edamame with just salt (as important mineral, seems not too bad (and tastes great cold or warm). McD serves edamame with corn as side to happy meal (as option obviously)
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The not wasting attitude is worth applaud. Called Mottainai around here 👍
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An interesting side note to ocean pollution: the more popular seafood options are typically "farm raised", which eliminates a lot of these concerns. Carp, catfish, salmon, tilapia, sea bass, halibut. For example.
I usually just have my edamame salted. But maybe with a side of Kirin Ichiban, lol.
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sadly farm raised is more expensive, rightly so because operating costs, so other forms of protein are more cost effective
for me I am not so concerned with beef/pork/fish/vegetable. I don't buy into the paleo/vegan/whatever nonsense. I also don't let some doctrine written thousands of years ago influence me.
To me its all fuel for life. As long as its palatable and meets my nutritional needs that's what's important. If I could soak my feet in a mineral bath and sit in the sun for 12 hours a day I'd do that but we can't photosynthesize.
Peanut butter is actually pretty solid but I ate so much of that in prison, it's quite a delicacy there. People are always stealing it from the kitchen and other people buy it. Anyway I'm pretty burned out on peanut butter but I eat it from time to time.
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There is whole debacle going around, which salmon is better, farmed or wild. But the surprise for me was there is/was operation of farming, then releasing to open water and immediately catch it, so they could label it "caught wild" or smth
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An interesting side note to ocean pollution: the more popular seafood options are typically "farm raised", which eliminates a lot of these concerns.
But raises other concerns. Factory farmed animals are pumped with antibiotics and other chemicals because of the cramped, awful conditions they are raised in. Farmed salmon in particular is fed dyes to mimic the desired 'red' colour of wild salmon (there's even a product to test the colour of your salmon).
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I tried this for the first time today, it was not bad but quite bland. I spiced it up a bit with butter and garlic and added some cheetos for crunch. I realize I added a bunch of junk to an otherwise healthy food but I'm not much for bland. Anyway seems a good source of protein.
I've also been eating bake beans. Pinto beans with extra junk, mainly sugar, for flavor. For a snack I've got greek yogurt. Some reduced fat milk and a bacon with egg sandwhich for breakfast.
Did some nutrition research and made the shocking discovery that all that waste we dump into the ocean is absorbed into all the things living in them and it builds up, especially the higher up the food chain. Things like mercury. Anyway, thought I would shift to non ocean alternatives.
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