Would this be an alright gaming setup?:

CPU - Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1 GHz ($169.99)

Motherboard - MSI LGA1155 Intel H77 ($82.99)

Video Card - Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 ($239.99)

RAM - Corsair Vengeance Blue 8 GB ($51.99)

HDD - Seagate Barracude 500 GB ($57.29)

Case - GAMMA Classic Series ATX Mid Tower ($39.99)

Power Supply - SilverStone Strider 500W ($57.99)

Optical Drive - Samsung 24x SATA DVD RW ($17.99)

Grand Total: $718.22

That's about my budget for a gaming PC and that's one that I found might be pretty good, I would love to hear all of your opinions and thoughts on it. Also, one more question: If any of you know a good in depth video on how to put PC parts together for noobs like me, I'd love to see it!

~ Thanks a million <3


EDIT 4/28/2013: Thanks for all of the info, I'll definitely be Bookmarking this thread. Also my budget is around the $700-$900 range, I'd rather stay near $700-$800, but if spending a little extra means a lot better computer, I'm fine with that. Also, I'm planning on building this sometime during June-August.

EDIT 4/29/2013: Another question: What software is a must have to install when booting up the PC? Besides the OS of course.

EDIT 4/29/2013: Yet another question: I think there were some brief things posted about this, but, what monitors do you suggest getting? Also at first I wasn't going to buy a Monitor right away, I was just going to use my mini 19 inch flat screen TV for the monitor just at first so I can get a better monitor. (Will that work? Using my TV as a monitor.) Also, I would love some suggestions on keyboards as well, I already have a mouse I can use.

EDIT 4/29/2013: Last question for the day >_>. (It's better to ask now rather than forget to ask.) I seriously think someone said something about this, but I'm too lazy to look for it now, because I'm just about to go to bed. What OS system should I use, and what is the EXACT name for it. Let's say you recommend Windows 7, would it be like Home Premium or how ever many freaking different types there are of it? xD. Sorry, Hopefully I'm not annoying anyone. Appreciate all of the help I've had so far :)

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Nice build, the 7870 is around the Nvidia 660 power wise and about the same price, here is a Benchmark but really it comes down to preference there(In other words do you care about better Physx in 10% of games). If not the AMD card is very solid, the rest of your build seems great.

Good job. Youtube is a great source of building instructions, just make sure you are grounded and follow the motherboards instructions and you will be fine, if you get confused youtube a quick video, its really not as hard as it sounds to build a PC, Note: Remember to buy Thermal paste, I prefer Arctic Silver.

Also it should Max(Run on high) pretty much anything you throw at it fine for quite a while.

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Yeah I saw one video where it said buy thermal paste if it's not already applied, how would I tell if it's already applied? :D

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I never saw a CPU with it already applied, that actually makes zero since to me...don't think it would even work, pretty sure it would get cruddy.

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Haha alright!

*Note to self: Buy Thermal Paste.

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The stock Intel cooler already comes with thermal paste pre applied. It gets the job done if the CPU isn't being overclocked.

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Really, Hmmm never got that, then again I have not bought a CPU in a bit. I know they use to package little tubes of crappy stuff with them....

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It might come applied on the heatsink. Just look on the bottom and if there's grey stuff, it's applied. If you only see metal, it's not applied

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This^^ If you are buying a half decent pc cooler/heatsink, it will already be on the heat sink. Make sure though before you order. Mine was, and I bought thermalpaste and wasted the money (unless I need to re-seat the cpu anyway)

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For $10 more he could also get the 7870 XT instead. That is between a 7870 and 7950.

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Didn't know, nice...he should probably do that then.

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One more question, what exactly is Physx?

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Basically fancy effects like this and this

AMD can run most of it I hear but its more taxing and its best to keep it on low/medium instead of high.

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Oh! Well honestly, it doesn't really matter to me whether or not I have that. xD

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You will have it, just not as well, its really not a deal breaker, I sorta like it personally :-P.

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Is it more expensive to get it?

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Nvidia cards tend to be a bit more expensive, I am not sure how the 660 compares to the 7870 but I heard it was close and is around the same price.

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Alright, thanks for the info! :)

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Np, have fun building.

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When are planning on buying all this? The nvidia 700 series is rumored to release in May?

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I heard its not gonna be a giant leap until Maxwell(800 series), probably a 10-15 bump on lets say the 660 to 760.

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Yeah the 760 ti is a gtx 670 and the 770 is a gtx 680. The gtx 780 looks really good though.

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You should be able to run it off your cpu. Physx on low will probably work.

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I hear medium even is fine on some games actually :-).

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My understanding is that PhysX is currently 100% Nvidia exclusive, AMD cards will not run it unless you Crossfire/SLI them with a Nvidia card (using a hacked driver that will not be worth the effort or expensive). Also, I second bumping up to the 7870 XT/LE, it's the exact same price for better performance, seems like a no-brainer to me. Oh, and, as long as you don't buy an OEM CPU, it will come with thermal paste already applied to the heatsink fan and since the CPU you chose is locked, you won't need to worry about changing it. Ok, and one more thing, I've never heard of Silverstone. You do NOT want to take a chance with your PSU, they may be a fine company, but I'd suggest something from SeaSonic, Corsair or XFX over them just to be safe.

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Don´t buy XFX, they are cheap but so are their components, unless you don´t mind lasting only 2 or maximun of 3 years before having problems.

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Their PSUs aren't, SeaSonic is the OEM for them. XFX just rebadges them and sells them for cheaper. They're just the SeaSonics that didn't make the cut to become branded SeaSonics, so they sell them off, but they are still higher quality than your average PSU.

As for PhysX, it's not my area of expertise, but I've been told that it simply doesn't run and is replaced with a more standard physics system on non-Nvdia cards. I watched a few comparison videos of it on YouTube and the difference is definitely noticeable, but rather irrelevant since few games use it and it doesn't add THAT much to a game.

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AMD can run Physx. just not very well compared to a Nvidia card with the same grapchics performance, its kinda forwards it to the CPU and strains that from what I heard. Sometimes you need to go into the ini file and change it manually but thats super simple.

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I think mirror's edge has one of my favourite PhysX elements in it. Compared to that of madness returns, it just looks gorgeous.

DAT PLASTIC!

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Thanks! :)

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For your PSU, I would recommend a 600W one if you ever need to put some more stuff.
As for the HDD, 1TB should be more value for money if you can afford it.

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Get a 128 SSD for the OS, PC will run much nicer.

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SSDs will probably break his budget.

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Not a 128GB one, heck he could even get a 64GB one for OS only for pretty darn cheap. It'll be some of the best money spent on the system.

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The thing about having an SSD is first it's expensive, and after which you still have to pay some more to get some regular storage after should you exceed the space, and I think the OP will.

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SSDs really aren't that expensive anymore. They're around $1/GB now which is very livable and certainly worth it. You can spend $120 and get 1.5TB for storage and a 64GB SSD for OS / absolute core programs. Or just add on $64 to the budget for just the SSD. Although I'd spend $65 and get a 1.5TB drive over a 500GB drive for $55. Save up one more week and make it part of the build rather than add it later.

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Some addition that I will suggest

make your PSU at least 600w. Hard drive, get 2x Seagate Barracuda 500gb then Raid-0 It
Maybe an additional ~80$ wouldn't hurt.

If you have 0 knowledge to build your own PC, ask the shop you are buying if they can assemble it in front of you (ofc it will be in a fee, It's 30$ here in my place)

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A bit of a correction to this. The wattage rankings on PSUs vary tremendously from maker to maker. Do some research and get one that's been heavily tested and actually puts out what you need for your system (there are calculators out there and highly detailed sites with good data in them). Also Raid 0 isn't needed for most users - for an average user it's going to cause more headaches than it will solve.

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If you're buying an AMD card, you should consider spending a bit extra on your PSU and/or video card because you'll get free game codes which you can sell to make the money back (or you can use them yourself. but I get the feeling you really want to stay below your budget). Better PSU would be for future upgradeability, better video card...well, you know what that's for :)

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Don't forget. You will have to buy an OS. I also HIGHLY RECOMMEND a surge protector. I like cyber powers protectors. Lifetime warranty, and they will cover up to $200k in damages if it fails. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=12-120-401&IsVirtualParent=1

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As it is, some areas have pretty safe power levels always. It would be a waste if the OP bought it and it is useless in the area.

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Nice build, i'm not too sure about that 3350P CPU since i've never worked with it specifically, but judging by sites and specs it seems reasonable for its price. Personally i'd get a larger hard drive if i could afford it, but that's just me being picky.

If you ever want to upgrade, you should consider changing that PSU to something beefier with a higher wattage output (600w should be fine) and at least an 80+ rating (yours doesn't, indicating there's not much of a guarantee the psu will be efficient enough, making it a risk for the entire system in the long run).

Overall nice computer for a budget, game on!

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Most/all(?) graphics cards don't need more than 450.

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You always want a little bit of a safety net, 500-600 is a safe bet though.

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Do you live near a Micro Center store? If so you can i5-3570k for around $180 and a better mobo for around $90

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Microcenter has ungodly CPU prices.

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No kidding! I got my i5 3570k there for $158.99 after tax.

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Everytime I see an awesome deal that is pick-up only at Microcenter, I cry a little inside :P

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Interested in taking a I5-3570K and Z77 motherboard (MSI Z77A-G43) off my hands for $280? Was building a computer for my buddy but he changed his mind :(

Also have 8 GB RAM and 128 GB SSD to get rid of from that build.

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I haven't heard much of that PSU brand. It may be a better choice to go with an 80 Plus Bronze verified one from a brand, such as Corsair / Antec / Cooler Master.

Since the price climb isn't very high, you may want to consider getting a 1 TB HDD. Assuming it's a gaming PC, and that you would be playing modern games, which can take up as much as 25-30 GB per game, that 500 GB HDD would overflow in no time, and getting a second one would cost more than simply getting a 1 TB HDD now.

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I'd rather pay for a 2nd 500GB with extra price for double their performance when raided

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But I highly doubt he even knows how to raid it, a bit too risky to do so as it is.

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Exactly, that's why I suggested the simpler, cheaper option.

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I made an edit that might help all of you help me a little more :)

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You could probably easily find an i5-2500k for a bit cheaper - and OC the hell out of it. Mine's on air cooling and OCed VERY well.

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There's no point in OCing the CPU. The pros here don't beat the maintenance fees involved.

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+1

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+2

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Entirely a common misconception of OCing. Admittedly for most standard users it's not worth it sure, but if you know what you're doing it's way safer than people. The decreased life on the CPU in all likelihood won't even effect you (if at all) - by the time it'd losing any sort life - it'd be crazy outdated.

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Your build seems great but i think you should buy a better power supply though :)

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Looks like a solid build for a gaming PC: solid base build + money directed at the GPU.
I'll throw in my general thoughs about the discussions arised:

  • here's a guide on assembly.
  • that PC should consume about 270W during gaming, I'd suggest a 550W PSU to stay right on 50% load, which is where PSUs have their max efficiency. It also gives you a bit of room for the future as PSUs become less and less efficient during their life. Not 100% necessary, but recomended. In either case, when you'll change your GPU in a couple of years, don't forget to check the power consumption and make sure it's not higher.
  • the CPU's heatsink (assuming you are buying the "box" version of the CPU, not the "bulk" = CPU alone) comes with pre-applied thermal paste, no need to buy it. And despite what people think the Intel standard paste is almost as good as the best thermal pastes you can find. If really needed, I can hunt for the article(s) about this. :)
  • while assembling is pretty easy overall (just follow the steps), the mainboard part can be annoying with all the little wires. Read your motherboard's guide carefully at that point, and you'll be fine.
  • I wouldn't recomend buying a second mechanical HD for raid 0. I'd suggest saving money for an SSD instead. I'm currently using a 240GB SSD for O.S. + programs + games, with my "old" 1TB drive for media and full backup of the SSD. The only downside so far is that when I use someone else's PC, I really suffer waiting for stuff to load. It's not a priority when on budget, but it's something I'd suggest to anybody who uses the PC daily.
  • AMD vs NVidia GPU: it's mainly a matter of personal preference. I had cards from both companies (and from several of their partners). No problems with any of those. You can still take a look at the benchmarks of the games you'll actually play to see the performance differences. PhysX is something you might like, but again it's personal.
  • CPU overclock: by the way you describe yourself I wouldn't recomend it. A moderate OC per se is easy to achieve and anybody can do it. The problem might come if something goes wrong for any reason. You may not be able to understand what went wrong and waste time/money for something that gives you no real benefit in gaming (as it is right now).
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You could actually build a computer with similar specs for a much cheaper cost if you bid your time and look for deals on Dealnews.com under the computer components section. For instance, there was a deal posted 3 days ago I believe where the i5-3570K 3.4 Ghz CPU was selling for $160 at tigerdirect.com, It did take me a while, but that's how I built my gaming PC with the following specs for $567:

  • Intel i5-2500K CPU
  • TZ77XEw Z77 ATX Motherboard
  • EVGA GTX 660 Superclocked edition 2GB GPU
  • Ripjaws 8GB RAM
  • Seagate Barracuda 2TB 6GB/s HDD
  • Antec Three Hundred Case w/ 2 Blue LED fans and 3 regular ones
  • Certified 80 PLUS 500w PSU (Forgot the brand :P)
  • Logitech G500 Mouse
  • Logitech K120 keyboard (really cheap, but works just fine!)
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Damn nice work, show that to a console fanboy and they will say you are lying probably haha.

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I suggest you to buy a better PSU.With that build you'll need 600W or more.I have a HD6850 and AMD x6, even my 500W PSU isn't enough for them.

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That's like triple or more what I have, and I bought my computer last year (low-end budget PC with mid-range GPU and between mid/low CPU)
Pretty much the cheapest I could get on everything except the CPU and the GPU... I can play about any game, and I can deal with low settings if that gives me enough performance. I do have a really outdated screen with a really outdated resolution however, which makes the performance way better... I'd say that build is great, and way more then I would ever pay :P

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All of this information is so helpful, I'll be reading into each and every suggestion carefully. I like this thread, so informative <3 :D

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Asked another question in main post! :)

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Build

Probably antivius, browser, any commonly used applications.

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That's a pretty good build. I'll give it a +1. I wouldn't get the 3570k or Z77 motherboard if you aren't interested in overclocking, though, but if you are, great build.

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Get an AV that's not Norton/Symantec, another browser for Internet cause IE sucks compared to the rest and the drivers for any stuff you use. That's about it.

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Actually, if you aren't building right now, I'd just take everything your read here with a grain of salt and ask again when you are ready to build. The reason I say that is because Intel's new CPUs and motherboards will be launching in June and you'll probably want those over what's out now. Plus, there are rumors that DDR4 RAM will be rolling out this year and Nvidia's new GPUs are near.

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Yeah I'll be editing the thread and asking whether or not I should change anything when I start, but all of this information (And I mean ALL) is EXTREMELY helpful.

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Get the 3570k over the 3350p. Better performance for similar price.

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Or at the very least the Xeon 1230v2.

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Alright, sounds like a good plan!

If he's not overclocking, then there is basically no benefit to buying the 3570k. The 3570k is only slightly better at stock clocks. However, if it's in the budget, it certainly never hurts.

Also, the idea of getting a Xeon for a gaming rig is an interesting one and not actually bad. I'd consider it.

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Its honestly the best choice if you don't want to OC. Its essentially a 3770 for the price of a 3570k.

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What's OC? If it's Overclock, what's overclocking? xD

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Overclocking allows the a part ( in this case, CPU) to run faster than what comes out of the box. Depending on how much you OC, it will increase heat and may be unstable (if done incorrectly). ALso, it could shorten the lifespan of the chip.

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Personally, id still go for the 3570k just for the better integrated graphics chip. Granted, its still weak as hell and he is going for a dedicated card, I tend to enjoy having a backup plan if my vid card gets fryed or is DOA. Alt, he could go 2500k if he wants, oc's very easily.

I dont know about going for a Xeon chip, for all intents and purposes its just a better binned chip and works well, but some mobos have trouble with them and wont boot, or so I read.

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http://sites.amd.com/uk/promo/Documents/never-settle-multi-bundle-offer-landing.html you should get something from 7900 they're like $170+ but you also get fc3+hitman ab+sd

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Edit: Question about monitors and keyboards! ^

Btw, the keyboard doesn't have to be some gaming l33t one, just a nice simple usable one. The monitor however, does that affect anything at all? Whether it does or doesn't I still want a decent monitor.

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Keyboards are pretty much universal. Some differences are present from model to model, though changes are slight. Size, key feedback, lighting, macro keys and such.

Monitors are much the same, though depending on your needs/use you will favor one over others. IPS monitors are clearer and brighter then LCDs. If you are just looking for an everyday monitor an LCD would be good enough.

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Thanks! :3

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False, IPS is a technology used in LCDs. You mean IPS are clearer and brighter than TN panels.

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I would suggest going with a mechanical keyboard and an IPS panel. Mechanical keyboard feel much better than normal membrane keyboards and in most cases, allow people to type faster. After using one, you wouldn't want to go back at all. NKRO over PS2/USB also helps as well. You should get an IPS panel simply because the price are low enough that its relatively affordable and they have much better image quality compared to standard TN panels.

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Thanks for the info :)

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