What section would you like hints for?
At this rate, I'll get a hint for strange paths the day before ending
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Regarding the Maze Madness puzzle hint:
I don't think that you have mentioned Lamassu in any giveaway. This makes no sense.
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Well, I can't figure out what this hint should represent.
The Sphinx never offered a "choice", she even demanded trespassers to solve her riddle, else they would be killed, so no real "choice" so to speak.
I am familiar with the Riddle of the Sphinx and the solution Oedipus provided, but I can't figure out what to do with it. Maybe, it does have something to do with the legs, but I just can't figure it out.
I have tried to tinker with the numbers and path orders and have entered dozens of decrypted 8-letter and 5-letter codes on SG and ITH but to no avail.
I guess this will be my end then, unless we'll get another hint.
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I'm one of the other ones who finished Maze Madness without any hints, and I must agree with Gracee and SoulNibbler about the hint not making it easier.
Actually. I solved it the same way as SoulNibbler suggests. Being thorough and a lot of work. Goes for almost all puzzles I guess, so it's not really a hint...
I'll check for the discussion after Maze Madness and join in with my comments there.
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I don't understand the hint either, but doing it by actually mapping the maze on paper helps a whole lot. Writing everything down that looks useful too. Maze Madness is not that hard, it's just a lot of work.
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Made it to the espace pod, but I'm stumped right now.
Can we have all the answers when all this is over? I mean all the extra stuff too, like Math Time and hidden stuff, like hidden, hidden stuff I found I don't even know if it's part of this puzzle train:-P
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According to this comment we're getting a hint for Escape Pod, so it might not be over for us yet :)
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I absolutely don't understand any of the 4 hints for "What's this?" and that means that I can finally quit this madness.
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Wanna chat about it? :)
I would focus on my hints instead of the older ones :D
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Hint 5 for the "What's this"-section now and still no hints for "smaller problems"? :( I feel like I'm missing something really obvious since everyone seems to clear it without problems. I know the code it's based on, but getting stuck on what to do with the result.
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Yeah, sorry I didn't really think anyone needed a hint for it seeing where it lies in the guide. XD
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Can I ask if the pictures in hidden in plain sight have anything to do with the solution
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So, the Escape Pod hint really helped. Now I'm on Train Facts, and it seems like there are already four solvers (two of which are those who have completed the whole puzzle). A bit too tired to make any sense of it right now, I have a few ideas, but so far no correct answers. Will try it tomorrow. Time is running out though! So close to the end, only three puzzles left. Hope I'll make it to the end.
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The last two hints really helped me to push on. Thanks guys
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What I do like about this puzzle has been the major undertaking for the puzzle creators for creating a fun diversified puzzle. The collaboration between you guys have been really great, and the story and cohesiveness is nice.
What I don't like is that it hasn't followed the rules set out for its own challenge. Many times hints have not been dropped on schedule, or haven't been dropped despite votes have dictated them to, or some puzzles have even gotten more than the max number of hints, and thus pushed other sections that could have used more hints. We have gotten a total of 21 hints (if I counted correctly, it says 22 in the thread topic) and this has gone on for 3 weeks, and thus we've missed out on at least 6 clues if we were to get 2 every day for the final week and 1 per day for the previous 2 weeks.
Now, should we get more easy mode? I don't think that's necessary. I think it's fair that people get stuck along the way not being able to solve it. In fact, I think it's great that people better than me get further along and I'm stuck here picking my hair over some things I should have been able to solve, even without hints. That being said, I also think a puzzle should follow its own rules.
For example, "I hate colors" is in 4th place, but has only recieved 1 hint, but "Hiding in plain sight" has gotten 2, when it had less votes. And both "Enigma" and "What's this?" each got 5 hints, despite 3 being max.
Now, take this feedback, along with this jar of bitter tears I have collected along the way, with a grain of salt. Yes, I'm frustrated about not being able to solve some things, but as said, I don't think I deserve to solve everything. So let me re-iterate once more that it's a great challenge and collaboration you have set up, and for that I applaud you.
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I see your point of view, but I also think that they have "modulated" a bit the hints according to where most people were stuck, and I don't think it's a bad thing per se. Again, I see your point of view, but I still think they did ok with the hints. Hey, it's my personal opinion. AND I CAN DRINK THOSE TEARS FROM MY JAR WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE! :P
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I wholeheartedly agree on how we botched the hints schedule. Most of the blame lies on our schedules. I get hardlly an hour a day to use SG. Jasmine is away for a while, and Keo is busy with work. But yeah, next train we will definitely fix everything up.
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I understand.
If I were to offer advice for a next time (which I hope there will be), perhaps prepare and share 3 hints per section among each other ahead of time, then any of you that is available can drop the hints when it's time, and if noone can make it for a deadline, just drop two the next time it's time for a hint.
I would also suggest spreading hints a bit more and not just go with what's got the most votes. It's very likely that someone's voted where they got stuck, and even if you drop a hint they will never come back to look at it, so the amount of votes will not drop as much as they should.
Again, please don't take this as purely negative feedback. If something comes out the wrong way I apologize. I really do respect all the work you've put into this and don't think I can judge you.
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Thank you all for creating this and also thanks to all people who participated. I've had a great great time talking about thought-provoking things with you all and I've realised this community is very cool to be a part of. Can't wait for the next big thing, and who knows, might start with puzzles myself! See you all around! Big hugs for everyone, and congrats to all who managed to push through the madness! (I've whitelisted a lot of awesome people for a nice Christmas treat coming up in the next days as a thank-you)
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Congrats! It looks like some of the GAs in this still have a few more hours before they are over, but I hope that the answers to all these enigmas will be posted in the near future, I am still stuck in "What's this?" land and I would like to leave at some point. Thanks again!
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Thanks for all the fun, guys! Unfortunately I got too busy at the end there to finish those last few puzzles, but still had an awesome time :) Looking forward to some solutions in the future!
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Link to original train
I will be honest, I never wanted this train to be unsolvable. Far from it. If I did, I would never have set it for a 3 week period. And hence, after a 3 day wait, I decided its time to finally unveil my cheat sheet. But its not an ordinary cheat sheet. Far from it.
I will be using the infamous "majority rule" method, otherwise known as the "democracy" method employed in "Twitchplays" livestreams. As you may have noticed by now, certain stops have a header on them. Those headers represent codenames for puzzle sections, and shall be used to identify that stop and all subsequent stops as one section until the next header. All the headers for sections in the puzzle have been listed below in the voting panel. Your job is to choose the respective section you want a hint for. Nifty, right?
Every 12 hours, me and my prisoners (keohookalani, SexyBudgie, and Aurorable) shall show up, and drop a hint regarding the section which receives the most votes. After that, you are free to change your votes to the next section you wish to get a hint for. Another 12 hours later, we would check which section received the most votes, and give out a hint for that section accordingly.
Oh and a couple of things:
twicethrice, then we will consider the next most voted section for hints. We don't wish to keep giving hints on the same section.So let us begin! Choose the section you want a hint for, wait till the hint counter up there changes, and get your hint!
SOLUTION
Every section has been broken down in detail. Sorry about the 4 week delay. I completely forgot to post this. Well, here it is.
0. Entry points - Split Paths
The image on the first GA contained entry points for both the branches. The easy path had the more obvious one, with the GA link visible when you hover over the image. But if you follow the image back to its source on imgur, you would see that the title contains the link : jqFyE, with the footnote, “I am always one step ahead of you.” Shift each letter with the one preceding it in the alphabet, and you have secured your way to the Hard branch. (Starts from the Maze Madness section).
1. Baby Labyrinth
Each description had an italic letter and a string hidden in the source code. Further, there were clues in the descriptions in each room that hinted at which kind of encryption method to use. The first wasn’t encoded. Binary said things were getting a bit more complicated. Oct referenced a stop sign. The Hex room, referenced people pouring honey out of a beehive (which is made up of hexagon shapes in nature). B32 was a poor reference by speaking of a Stratofortress which is actually a B52 bomber. B64 was reference through a bus line in New York that went by that exact line number and could be googled. ASCII85, was referenced by a route to travel through Scotland that if researched through the clues would lead to it’s name, A85. There was no real hint for the final one, as the progression should have seemed clear enough by that point.
(Note by Budgie: I don’t think anybody noticed those :P)
Each string hidden in the source code was a coded number from 1 to 8. 1 is 1 in decimal, 00110010 is 2 in binary, 146 is 3 in octal, 34 is 4 in hexadecimal, GU is 5 in base32, Ng== is 6 in base64, 2Z is 7 in ASCII85,, 56 is 8 in CHAR/DEC. Xlate tools could have been used to decode. After decoding you had to order the italic characters by those numbers and that gave you “mWCZowQ4”. The description in the final room said something about being questioned, which should have hinted at a quiz.
That was the code for an ith puzzle: http://www.itstoohard.com/puzzle/mWCZowQ4
The quiz was relatively simple and was based on Berlin. All answers could be retrieved using Google-fu skills. Upon successfully completing said quiz, you were handed a five character code which led to The Enigma.
2. The enigma
You had to consider only the descriptions which had the illuminati eye in the attached picture. Eye: http://i.imgur.com/i0bAAUG.jpg No eye: http://i.imgur.com/mcwWi5B.jpg From those descriptions, you had to take the first letter of each bolded capital word. The order was that of the giveaways, with the central (“deeper”) giveaway as the last one. The strings were: ILLUMINATI ZOMBIES, GROWLING VEGETABLES, APRIL 6TH, BIOLOGY QUIZZES. The first letters form the string “IZGVA6BQ”, which, decoded from base32, gave “FMPx0”. That was the code for the following giveaway: http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/FMPx0/
3. Smaller problems
Each description had 3 italic letters. The case of the italic letters determined the case of the decoded letter.
That was genetic code. You could have used this table to decode HERE (Move from the center to the outside). The case of the italic strings provided the case for the letters: ltdeT, which was the code for the next giveaway.
4. I hate colors
There were 5 white and black fast changing gifs. The 2nd and 4th just contained numbers from 1 to 12, in order (1-6 the 2nd, 7-12 the 4th). These were merely clues telling you that you needed to order things from 1-12.
The other gifs had on each frame a big white or black character and a very small grey number Except the second F in the first gif. It was left out and when puzzle solvers found all the rest, they would need to take a leap of faith and place the last character in the missing spot.
Slowed and resized first gif, with the numbers pointed out on the first 3 frames: http://i.imgur.com/59JPFsZ.gif
Ordering the characters by those numbers and presuming, by exclusion, that the second “F” from the first gif is number 4, you got the following string: F5NFKMTULEXQ, which, converted from base32 gave “/ZU2tY/”. The next giveaway was: http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/ZU2tY/
5. Strange Paths
You had to look at the links for the following giveaways in this section:
The name of the giveaways didn’t fit the actual games. Taking the first letter of the game names from the links, you got the string “Gwg9F”, which led to http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/Gwg9F/
6. Obnoxious trolls
Through the last few puzzles and as you reached this point, the descriptions occasionally had references to the lyrics from Rick Astley’s song woven into the description in some way. It became blatant in this last puzzle hopefully what was happening and should have clued people into the song.
The last giveaway had the following link at the end: http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/LSHQ2/wpp9WpaH The last 8 characters were a code for the ith puzzle: http://www.itstoohard.com/puzzle/wpp9WpaH The answer was “rickrolled” or “rick rolled” and the solution gave you the code for the next giveaway: 5AM0Q.
7. Hiding in plain sight
The links to the following giveaways were:
Starting with the first giveaway (david) and taking the first character of the giveaway name you got the following string: DzRC0, which led to the last part of the easy section.
This actually was a troll GA intended to temporarily slow people down from finding the true end. It said you were completed, but it was five sentences and had unusual capitalization at the start of each sentence. This hopefully clued people in, as we’ve already been dealing with the magic number of 5 characters in the last few puzzles. If the first characters of each were taken and strung together, it led to the next GA, which while also a troll GA, just asked you to do the same thing again. Upon reaching that final set of real prizes you were issued a password that you needed to keep for an unspecified reason.
Easy branch ends here.
8. Maze Madness
Every stop in here has a code encrypted in HEX. This code, at almost all stops, decodes to variants of “Nope”, except for 3.
The image in the first stop of Maze Madness also gives this clue on hovering over it.
The above codes will fit in these blanks, but first you need to find the order. Here is where the Riddle of the Sphinx comes in. It asks
“What has 4 legs in the morning, 2 in the afternoon, and 3 in the evening?” The answer is of course, man (crawls when born, walks during its prime, and uses a stick when towards the end of its lifespan). But the times mentioned are significant here. On ordering according to morning, afternoon and evening (4th, 2nd and 3rd stop from the 1st), you get
Double decoding via HEX gives you the next URL (RUgkL). Hint to this was given in the first stop.
9. What's this?
To solve the ith (http://www.itstoohard.com/puzzle/fapFEr6K) you had to move forward and look at the attached pics. The full picture was http://i.imgur.com/EoSngf0.gif From left to right there are 2 characters going down (down down), 2 characters going up (up up), one character going left (left), one character going right (right), one character going left (left), one character going right (right), 2 characters moving in a shape of “B” and 2 characters moving in a shape of “A”. The answer was “konami code” (up up down down left right left right B A).
The math puzzle was a dead end. The solution was 2.72 (euler’s number, a mathematical constant written as “e”, rounded to 2 decimals)
10. Escape Pod
Just before the Escape Pod: http://i.imgur.com/lH9Tp8W.gif was a little detour with a pair of giveaways. The characters movements hinted to morse code: the jump was a dot, the movement was a line, each character indicated a letter or a number. Reading from left to right the code was “.-. -.. ..--- - ..-.”, i.e. “RD2TF”. Later on, at the beginning of “beauty of sight”, the first pic had “the other one was xxnXX” as it’s sg title, which indicated the letters’ case for this one: “rd2TF”.
Each picture in the Escape Pod had a string as it’s sg title.
Each string was a word backwards coded with caesarian shift, the first one had to be shifted by 24, the second one by 23 and so on. That gave you
This is “the letters you need are yeuwq all lowercase” reversed. “yeuwq” was the code of the next giveaway.
Then you had to do an ith puzzle http://www.itstoohard.com/puzzle/dRZzbmcF The answer was 297.
Explanation:
If there are two people left, the second to last gets kicked and the last one takes everything. If there are three people left, the one proposing can take everything, since the fourth doesn't want to be kicked and will vote for it. 300-0-0, one vote needed. With four people left, the third one will never agree, the fourth and the fifth will agree only if they get at least one coin (since they are evil and like kicking people). 298-0-1-1, two votes needed. With five people, the second will not agree unless given 299 coins, the third will agree for one, the fourth or the fifth for two or more. 297-0-1-0-2 or 297-0-1-2-0, two votes needed.
11. Train facts
This puzzle was made up of facts about trains. The final link in the train led you to an ITH, which requested the Password given to you by completing the easy side of the train. Upon doing so, you were provided with another url: http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/Zdkk8/
This led to the final GA which upon viewing the source revealed a 7 character code, which was needed to access an imgur link. In the tradition of SG hidden information, though perhaps not as hard as some in the past, the image as an inception billboard picture, and hidden in it, was the code to the ITH necessary to leave this section.
This puzzle was extremely specialized knowledge, that required the puzzler to take the information and connect the question, hints and answer format to fill in the necessary gaps. Food and Conversation was the first hint which stated that the two were related somehow. There were hints on how you should answer, and the format for the answer was provided. Further, the ordering of the answer was provided as well in the hint of the letter U.
There was a type of food provided which was unique to each language. For example, Ratatouille was French in origin. Linked with conversation should have led the puzzler to the French language. The question given was a list of the french vowel inventory with some replaced by question marks. The vowels for french could be looked up on wikipedia and their IPA (International Phonetic Alphabet) representations could be found. The ordering when brought back to the letter U signified that the order was from top left down to the middle and up to the top right. There were a total of four language vowel inventories to answer correctly with the simplest being Italian and no vowels being provided for you in the format.
Upon completion of the ITH you were provided with another URL that led to The Beauty of SIght.
12. The beauty of sight
Each picture in this section led to another small detour with a pair of giveaways. Each character in the picture indicated a black dot in braille, the absence of a character meant a white dot (http://www.todayifoundout.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/braille-alphabet.jpg). For example http://i.imgur.com/QKTJKuQ.gif is:
which is an “o”
The final string was “oRqww”.
There was no puzzle to reach “The end times”.
13. The end times
This section started with “Colors FTW” ith: http://www.itstoohard.com/puzzle/2gUSNOJm
Clicking on the pic led you to another giveaways, which, in turn, led to “I love colors” ith http://www.itstoohard.com/puzzle/9TRP4Zae Both iths were solved in a similar way.
It was probably easier to solve the second one first.
In the second ith the first frame is the only one that matters for the solution, while the other 2 were added to make the colors easier to distinguish for people who might have a certain type of color blindness. Each dot is composed of 3 parts. The 2 exterior rings are primary colors in the RYB color system (red, yellow, blue), while the color at the center is a secondary color. If the color at the center matched the mix of the 2 exterior colors (blue+yellow=green, yellow+red=orange, blue+red=magenta) the combination was right, else it was wrong. The dots with the right combinations were ones, while those with the wrong combinations were zeroes.
Decoded from binary it formed the password “afb”.
The first puzzle was solved in a similar way: the first 2 frames of each dot were primary colors, while the 3rd frame held secondary colors. Instead of being ones and zeroes though, the right combination formed a black dot, while the wrong one a white dot. Decoded from braille it gave “fZDQ6”, which led to http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/fZDQ6/legend-of-grimrock-2 This giveaway had attached to the desctiption this pic http://i.imgur.com/wzWLdSn.gif which had “And the password is…” as it’s sg title. By reverse searching the pic you should have gotten to this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StTqXEQ2l-Y (or something similar). The password for the ith was “everything is awesome” (with up to 4 exclamation marks).
Hope you guys enjoyed the ride. We will see you again soon...
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