hi all,

So with a mega amount of saving i have about £2500 - £3000 to get a new pc. but i need help on what is compatible with what and whats more likely to last slight abuse/ over use. I want it to be as future prof as possible and pretty hardy as i am known to play for 8 hours straight hehe. the other problem i have is due to a health condition my flat has to be warm usually about 21 -23 degrees C. I would appreciate any hints, tips and builds you could suggest.

thanks :)

So here's the GA, Thanks for the help :)
GA 1

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Does that include 1 or multiple screens or do you have those already? And if so, which ones do you have, or what are your needs/requirements for those?

8 years ago
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purely the case + contents, have screens already (asus MX259H and another asus just slightly bigger VK278Q)
:) my current pc is slowly dying and i hope to take advantage of the January sales

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I know Europe is expensive for PC parts, but jesus, 3k is a LOT to toss into a PC. 1200 USD would build you a very nice top-low PC that would last you for 2-4 years.

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That seems like flushing cash down the toilet ..

I7 With some ridiculous amount of ram and a Titan seems to be going for about that much .

Cant get any better then that i guess .

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Don't waste your money.
$1500 for case and contents will get you a nice i7, 16GB DDR4 RAM, an NVidia 1080, a 256GB SSD, a 1TB HDD, a soundcard, some fans and heatsinks, a spiffy case.

If you're hellbent on spending the money, get one of these: https://build2.falcon-nw.com/Configurator/Configurator?s=1#

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1TB HDD isn't really going to cut it for more than a half a year or so with a lot of newer releases being in the 30-60gb range. I would say 3-4TB is probably better. Further, a lot of people are going to disagree on this but you could get 32GB of ram for $180~ usd vs 90-100 for 16GB and actually be able to keep multiple programs running in the background while you play games. As for soundcards most mobos made recently actually have fine onboard sound so unless hes buying higher end speakers/production equipment with his PC he won't need it. If he really wants to spend money buying a prebuilt is a surefire way to insure he does waste money.

8 years ago
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I have 2+2+3 TB of HDD space.
It is not enough. And I don't even have that much porn. :P

8 years ago
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3TB+3TB+3TB+3TB+(3TB used for parity backup)+2TB+2TB+2TB+2TB+1TB+2TB+2TB+320GB (2.5")

Just barely enough lol (first seven are internals, others are externals either via docking station or in enclosure)

8 years ago
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just barely enough for what? not games for sure.

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8 years ago
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As the others have said, it's a lot of money.
Would you consider buying a great setup for less and saving the rest for upgrades down the line?
Some people are fine "wasting" money for an immediate 5% FPS increase, others (the sensible ones :P) invest over time.

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I recently built a PC with a xeon quad core hyperthreaded CPU, 24 GB of ram, and a geforce 1050ti, that runs everything I throw at it on ultra. It cost under 400 dollars. Spending a lot doesn't equal performance if you don't know what you're doing. Buy used parts, get a decent new graphics card, and put the rest of the money to a better use. 3 big ones is too much to spend on a computer mate.

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Build for 1500 one now and after a year or 1 1/2 or so for 1500 again one. I bet with anyone you will be able to paly over the time with better performance then with a 3000 Monster. Or use the 1500 that stay over the time for upgrades. bet you could have that way for a few years a decent all the time on top system.

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lol

8 years ago
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lol to topic or comments?

8 years ago
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topic and something else very common on sg.

8 years ago
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Build one $1500 PC now and another several years from now.
edit: Doh, BigTxT said the same thing. Ninja'd ;_;

8 years ago
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This right here!

8 years ago
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Thanks guys, yes if i can spend less that would be awesome :) my main worry is that with the new games due out over the next couple of years i wont have enough specs to run them, so i'm trying to get something that will last about 4 years. my current pc has only lasted about 2 years. i'd rather spend a wee bit more now rather than tinkering with it in a year. but if it's more expensive that way maybe not. as you can tell i'm very confused :P

8 years ago
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Elaborate your wishes.

Do you need peripherals, an operating system, what display you got (or want), and how important are graphics to you - which games even?

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sorry, told you i needed help :) so i have peripherals, and as much as i hate windows 10 i might just have to give in but if i can get away with windows 7 that would be better i think but if new tech need the new windows then that is what i will have to go with. currently have asus MX259H and another asus just slightly bigger VK278Q which would stay the same. I currently play games like fallout NV / 4, bioshock, skyrim, elder scrolls online, borderlands, mainly open world games but i have tried games like killing floor 2 and over watch i'm rubbish but do enjoy them. also games like dishonered 2. I have debated about streaming on twitch but this might be beyond me :). i also use my pc for website building using html and css. i have a bad habit of trying to watch twitch while gaming which doesn't help my current pc either. so i need enough graphics to run games for a while without straining it too much in the heat in good quality.

thanks

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For better fps, quit all other programs while gaming.

Please list your current pc specs. I suspect you may be able to upgrade existing for way way way less money.

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my current pc is going to my gran as hers completely died which gives me the chance to get new one :)

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A single 1070 GPU and an i5 current-gen cpu will be more than enough for 1080p let alone whatever 3k would buy you.

Maybe in 60 FPS, and not on any ultra settings - https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/azNBdNj.

4K is yet another waste of money. And buying 4K without buying 144 HZ is stupid, while buying 4K with 144 HZ is even more stupid, as we need another 5 years for technology to be ready for that.

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It depends, 1070 is almost 2x cheaper than 1080, and depending on how much money you have, paying 2x more for maybe 1/3 of better performance is not really worth it. Of course, that 1/3 is mandatory when it comes to higher FPSes and rigs, but when we talk about 60 FPS, I'd call 1080 indeed a waste. That is only my opinion though.

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You don't need that much, ever. Depending on where you live, you should be able to buy good enough PC for everything you might need, for less than 1500 euros. Buying anything past that is simply put money waste, I consider even that specific setup as very close to money waste as well, but I can understand that in some specific picky situations, it might be needed or wanted. Therefore, feel free to buy this one or similar one, add all needed things, and keep your extra cash for next one in 2 years or 3.

Buying anything more expensive won't prolong life of your rig, this is not how technology works. Above is top-notch, everything past that is money waste (at least in terms of gaming, because we could in theory talk about other usages where e.g. i7 could be useful, but that is not happening here, ever).

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Wiat for the new AMD Zen processors and AM4 architecture, they'll release from January 2017 and their productivity will be equal to I7,but 3 times cheaper.

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if you playing 8 hrs or so i would reconmend you install a " Water cooling system on your GFX card + CPU so it dosent over heat due to the warm Flat and keep it at a nice good Temp !!!

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I see no problem with a high end PC, but if you're sticking to 1080p monitors then there's not much point, IMO. If you had a 4K monitor, two high end graphics cards might have been justified. As is, I'm not sure.

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wow - why not just buy a good computer and then go into the back yard and burn the rest - as that is pretty much what you are doing with that pc setup - giggle - that is my opinion only though; your money, so splurge on what you want :0)

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What is your current setup?
2500 - 3000 pounds sounds like throwing money out of the window.
Also, 21-23° C is a normal temperature. Other countries have 25-30 as their normal temps ;)

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thanks, i will prob upgrade my main monitor but probably not till it breaks. most of the time i don't buy something till i really need it or it can't be fixed and i always save before buying :) since tech has come down in price i can get a bit more value than the last time i got a new pc. but since my gran would spend money to get a new pc when my old one would suit her basic use i have an excuse to buy a new one. :) if the new graphics cards come out in January it's probably a good idea to wait till then, thanks. you lot have given me a lot to think about and go on so will do some research and see what happens.

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LOL. Saved up $3k for a new pc, doesn't even include a ga in his request topic.

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....really?

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thanks for pointing that out. there is a reason, i believe that the people who took the time and effort to try help me should have a better chance of winning and not just answer to get a giveaway. so my plan was to reward those who had replied, with the reply of a ga invite link so they had the most chance of finding and wining from there messages. rather than just clicking the post in the hopes of winning something. you assume it was easy for me to save when in reality it took years. please know that not everything is as it appears and life is full of gray. I can see you give often and I am thankful that you can afford to help those who can't afford games as that little piece of joy can mean a lot to someone who needs it. I understand that lots of people take but never give but i try not to.

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I don't assume it was easy.

You have given away 15 games. Over a few years time.

You saved $3K. You don't know what you are doing. You should budget $1200 or maybe $1500 and you will have a kick-ass machine. You still haven't posted your current specs, so we can't even see what it is you are complaining about hasn't lasted you two years.

You are getting advice on this thread that will save you $1500.

If you are planning to reward your helpers with some sort of private super giveaway... Well, I see no evidence that you operate that way.

Good luck with your build. Don't get suckered.

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Current Build =
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1
CPU
Intel Core i5 3570K @ 3.40GHz
Ivy Bridge 22nm Technology
RAM
8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 668MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. P8Z77-V LX (LGA1155)
Graphics
MX259 (1920x1080@60Hz)
ASUS VK278 (1920x1080@60Hz)
SAMSUNG (1920x1080@60Hz)
2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 (ASUStek Computer Inc)
Storage
111GB OCZ-VERTEX3 (SSD)
894GB SanDisk Ultra II 960GB (SSD)
1863GB Western Digital WDC WD2002FAEX-007BA0 (SATA)
Optical Drives
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH24NSB0
Audio
Realtek High Definition Audio

thanks for trying to help. I've discovered that my other multi-tasking uses might be the cause of my dying pc so i'm going to look into that. and yes i have little knowledge and a wonky brain so please bare with me.

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I have a 5 year-old build that is using
i5 3570K
I have mine overclocked to 4.3. You should look into it. I didn't even push it very hard. You have an unlocked cpu and are not overclocking. You are wasting the potential you have.

Your NVidia 660 is not a high-end card. You could upgrade your card for $200-$300.

If you OC your CPU, and upgrade your video card (say, to an RX 480), and if you shut down other programs while you game, you will see a huge jump in performance. Especially with FO4, since it is CPU heavy.

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Yo, I see you're a fellow Scotlander! Yay!

Have you checked out Kustompcs.co.uk ? A Scottish company ! They can build ( or even just recommend ) systems to your price / requirements.

8 years ago
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thanks i'd not heard of that company I will have a look.

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You shouldn't need to spend that much to have an amazing rig that will last awhile. Maybe 1500 - 2000.. I could put together some example builds for you later today if you'd like, just let me know what version of windows you would like to use right now. Also let me know if K/M and monitor are needed too. HDMI cables, etc... Also if you'd prefer liquid cooling or just fans, I know personally I'm still nervous using liquid cooling, I still just build with cases that have good airflow and lots of fans.

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thanks, yeh water cooling makes me nervous too but i'm not sure just fans would do the trick as i think thats what's killing my current pc. it just keeps freezing on me. I just need the base unit i have K/M and monitor but will probably get newer one in the near future.

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So long as you don't reach temps of over 70c often, temp shouldn't be doing any damage to your hardware. I know personally I'm like you and typically live in warmer environments because I get cold very easy, right now my room temp is 24C, and still feel cold with a hoodie on. But yah, I'll put together some list on pcpartpicker, just need to know if you use windows 10 or if you're still a windows 7/8 user. The new socket type lga 1151 with intel has been forced to only work with win10 (with newer cpus at least), so if you use an older version, I'll need to do 1150 socket builds.

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thanks :) i prefer windows 7 but i think due to compatibility and future proofing it will have to be windows 10.

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Ok, here's a build. Didn't add a case, left that to your discretion. Also, you could double up on the RAM for 32GB, increase storage capacity, etc etc. The PSU is a bit overkill, but that's in case you'd decide to add further upgrades. This pc would dominate pretty damn good if you ask me.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/8YD3gL

Edit: In case you're curious, I chose a 1070 over a 1080 simply because the price difference based on performance boost just isn't worth it. The 1070 model I chose also has liquid cooling.

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For this much money… you could get an LGA-2011 Core i7, 64 GB RAM, a 256 GB M.2 NVMe SSD + 6 TB HDD, plus dual GTX 1080 cards.

Funny enough, I can think of a single-CPU/dual-GPU/quad-channel/single-SSD/single-HDD build that would most likely even go beyond your budget. It involves an i7-6950X, an ASrock Fatal1ty mobo, 8×8 GB 3600 MHz CL16 RAM sticks, 1 TB SSD, and a WD Gold 10 TB HDD. I have a theoretical MEGAPC build that would cost somewhere around 5500 GBP and only uses 3 HDDs, so not even datacenter level of capacity.

8 years ago
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hehe i put dream pc into google and found one at £10,000 that was just crazy. I'm just paranoid that if i spent slightly more i'd get much more for the money as it is a lot of money to get it wrong :/

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The users over at a Dutch computer/tech site create a custom setup every month for several different uses. For November they have a High-end gaming system and an Ultrasuperduperwasteyourmoneyhere system. The High-End one can be a nice indication of what a good setup can look like. It's in Dutch, so it does require some translate.google or some such. For 1600 euro they suggest a build that does include an (overclockable) i7 if you are planning to stream/record.
Just like with any list, there is plenty of room for debate, so not everyone agrees with this setup. I7 or i5, K or non-K...

https://tweakers.net/reviews/4967/3/desktop-best-buy-guide-november-2016-high-end-gamesysteem.html

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omdg.... 3k pounds this is my all year money.......... anyone have a gun??

8 years ago
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it's my I saved forever money hehe, the last time i spent this amount of money it was on an electric wheelchair so it's nice to be able to spend something on having fun for a while :)

8 years ago
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well different country different reality........... f* my life......

if you want my advice split that amount & for half buy a computer it's enough, another half keep for later..

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Computers do not age too well, if you have collected that money for a considerably long time (say, 3+ years), it might not be the greatest decision to spend all of it at once, on a single item.
I would "oversize" the PSU, the motherboard and the memory only. The rest can be maxed out later, if it turns out to be necessary at all.

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I mostly used this site for configuration and this channel to make the pc, not a treehouse :). The build a gaming PC series are pretty good.

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thanks :)

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You're welcome! Good luck creating your dream pc! After reading more of the comments, I agree with what others said... you're spending too much in one shot. Better split and then upgrade just parts, for ex. in 2 years with the new super generation of video cards.

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