Well if it's gonna be cheaper I'll prolly go for the console.. I always wanted a console.. heh, but if it's something among the lines of $500-600 i'd probably indeed go for a custom PC..
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You can get a much better pc for $600 than a puny console. Just look at the build guides for PCpartpicker.
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For that, you could build a generic purpose PC from an AMD APU that can only run any current game in 1080p without a problem, or even one with a dedicated video card. Heck, you can build an entry level gaming PC for 720p gaming for like 400 USD.
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Wow.. You got me interested about that 400 USD custom build PC
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Just to show you an example, this rig was made to run modern FPS games in 720p and stream them live. It has a gigantic PSU because the streamer later bought a dedicated card.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9vXQcf
If you get a 300 W PSU, this could be under 300 USD. And believe me, the AMD A10 is a powerful APU capable of gaming.
Optionally, you can get an SSD and 16 GB RAM. You can also retain the large PSU to get a GPU later.
Since it is possible to build a decent non-gaming PC for about 220-250 USD, almost having the double amount can open up a lot of possibilities. Just most people think there is no life beyond an Intel Core i5/i7 and NVidia GTX 900. There is. Games due to being multiplatform have a lot lower actual requirement than what many make you believe.
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Holy.. I think I'm gonna actually buy this one, I am mostly gonna use it for FPS games such as CS:GO and etc. I think it is cheaper enough already, but is there something that can be changed to be cheaper, but with the same quality? If not, that's more than awesome, and I really thank you. Also how does the payment works? How do I buy them at once? If what you say(about the 220-250 USD is true I think I can afford it this week,otherwise I'd need to wait around a month for the build you linked me)
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220 USD PC is not meant for 3D gaming, it has only a low-power Intel Celeron in it. It can do anything, including watching 1080p videos (or 4k ones if we go to 250 USD), but cannot run any 3D game more than 5 year old. They are usually home theatre PCs.
But if you ever want to look into that one, it is based on barebone kits. The cheaper one on a Zotac BI-320, the slightly more expensive one on an Intel NUC NUC5PPYH, both with a Samsung 850 EVO SSD and 1×CORSAIR 8GB Vengeance Notebook DDR3 1600MHz RAM. Either can run a 10-yo FPS in 720p flawlessly, but that's about their limit. The Intel one is slighlty better, it may go as far as 6-yo games. (For example, to see what low-budget can do, this is a video on Splinter Cell: Blacklist running at 25 fps on a CPU that is in the Intel NUC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_-wLKANBqo)
As for PCpartPicker, I don't know how it works since I live on another continent. :) I assume you can get this info form the website quickly.
By the way, don't get that exact build. Here, try to think along this line:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jXqsTW
This one can be expanded with a dedicated GPU thanks to the 500 W power supply, and later you cna add another 8 GB RAM to get 16 in total. It also has an SSD until you can get a 1/2 TB internal storage, but if you can go to 480-500 USD, you can get a WD Black 2 TB one, that should store all data and has 5 years warranty I think. (It's their best line: fast and super reliable.)
Or just leave it as it is. This can serve as a budget gaming machine for about 2-3 years without a GPU.
But if you want to play CS:GO, then this thing can be in the game's main menu roughly 60-80 seconds after pressing the power button, assuming you have Win10 and Steam as automatically starting.
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hm.. I actually like this one. Thank you very much.. I think I will be getting this one unless there is something else to be added to the list? If that's the final list I really consider buying it as it's really cheap for the components which looks pretty powerful, and are they capable of competing with the parts from the first list or are they better? If yes, in which aspect?
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You can look into further into parts, yes. What I gave you is a working build, but for example you can look up a less ugly case, or change the brand of the RAM if you don't like that one. You may add 30-40 USD more to get a power supply that should not fail in the next 6 years unless it was a defected one.
PC building is a very fluid thing, but as I showed you, you can sketch the basic quickly. What I gave you would serve you well if you don't get a defected part, and with another 160 USD invested within a year it can serve as a budget gaming PC for at least three years, if you are content with 720p and low graphics in the upcoming games. 8 GB RAM is enough now, but new games are expanding it rapidly to 12 GB, then later probably to 16 (around 2018). The only sketchy thing is the storage: for games you should get WD Black 1 TB or 2 TB one that should have enough space for a few games, videos, pictures, documents, any data you want to store outside a cloud.
Edit: Oh, here is a review on what you should expect from that APU:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_a10_7870k_apu_review,9.html
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9307/the-kaveri-refresh-godavari-review-testing-amds-a10-7870k/5
The integrated part shows the capabilities without a GPU added on.
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Just through a quick one together.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/KHFTK8
For an APU build you could go as low as a 350 watt PSU and be fine, but I figure go at least 500 watt so you can always upgrade to a better GPU later if you choose, doubly so since Windows 10 and newer games might be able to utilize the APUs video card and the GPU in newer games if the developers choose to do so.
Edit: Had to make one change to the CPU, noticed I had misclicked when I selected it.
And while SSDs generally are much faster, you generally pay more for it and for gaming, I figure you would prefer the extra storage as longer load times isn't a huge deal when the game still runs the same when fully loaded and you would prefer the bigger game storage,
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One thing I strongly recommend you change.
APUs are heavily affected by RAM speeds more than about any other, I recommend you change the memory to 2400 speed. The change is actually that noticeable.
They did a review on another AMD APU and the different between DDR3 1600 and DDR3 2400 in a battlefield game was 70 FPS vs about 35 FPS at 720p resolution.
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They've been around for a while.
They're cool, but I'm not buying one right now.
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Yea, but just noticed that they should be released today/in few hours,haha. Any particular reason you are not buying one?
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Main reason: too many PCs in the house. If I bring one more in, my missus will kick me out.
And before you consider the cost vs a custom built PC, always look at the power consumption. If it costs a 100 quids less but draws 100W more, then you are not saving, at all (unless you get free electricity).
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I'd turn my trading wallet into one if I could, but NZ doesn't get to buy the hardware. :(
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Well, they "arrived" with a sale. AGAIN!
http://store.steampowered.com/sale/playwsteammachines/
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Some of them have prices listed:
next box: Starting at $799.99 USD
gigabyte prix pro: $599.99 USD
alternate steam machine: Starting at $1,099.99 USD
quite overpriced i guess compared to building a custom (which could run SteamOS if you really wanted too, as it's free afaik).
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I mean… a recent discussion has been on the first page since yesterday. Did you really need another one so quickly? ^^'
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those prices look like apple products... *facepalm*
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http://store.steampowered.com/search/#category1=993 It says november 10 on all of them, so would that mean that the pricing would be there in a few hours? I think I'm gonna pick one up, just cause my lap top suck balls.. Unless it's more expensive than a custom built PC
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