As many of you are aware by now, especially regulars to Trivia, our usual triviamaster has had enough.

But after over 2 years of regular trivia in Sunday? I feel it's only right if someone continues the tradition. As such, I'm making plans to host trivia after Chronic stops. Now, for the bad news.

As Chronic was the only chatmod who is in chat reliably enough to lock chat during trivia, what do we do? Well, we plan. There are 2 immediate options which come to me, which I've put in the poll.

The other challenges which need to be addressed before Trivia can resume are as follows:
Sponsors - Much as Chronic's trivia was done, we need sponsors for prizes.
Questions - Unfortunately, I am nowhere near as good at writing questions as timely as Chronic was, so if anyone would like to help with questions, I would appreciate it. As well as this, questions can be provided by different users each week, possibly alongside their prize if they wish it so.
Rules - For the most part, I plan on keeping the same rules as chronicdiscord's trivia, with a few minor changes. However, I feel that since I'm planning for everything else, there should be some user input on the rules.
Suggestions - Any other suggestions for planning this trivia would be appreciated.

Once I'm confident that we have a working plan for what to do, I will make a proper thread for the actual event. If there are any other concerns, please voice them and I'll address them :)

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Where Should Trivia Be Hosted?

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S.Gifts Group chat - No locking chat for questons, No control over users, Official group.
Dedicated Trivia Group - Chat Locking, More contol over users, but not Official Steamgifts group.
Other - Describe in Comments.

Creating a new group would be a good idea. First because the trivia go-ers will have a much more trivia-friendly environment, and the Steamgifts chat members will be able to carry on undisturbed by the trivia anymore.

Creating a new group means being able to manage the trivia much more easily, without having the drawback of limited moderators and/or administrators available for the trivia events.

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Yup. And it separated S.Gifts as well, so people don't have to leave chat because of trivia, which many users do. I'm leaning towards the group myself, but not sure if I'll be able to get the same amount of people in each week. Might be slow going.

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well, at the other hand other group means no more accidental participants that happened to be on the cat at the right time, may have liked the idea and joined the fun.

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RIP Chronic ;_;

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Sorry Deiru, but after the whole drama you created last Trivia you're the last person who should be "picking up the torch" and develop continuation of Trivia Nights.

All I have to say.

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I'm not discussing that here, and I would appreciate it if you delete your comment, as it constitutes calling out, and is therefore in violation of Steamgifts rules.

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the "may be calling out" portion edited out. Coment stays. Feel free to report me.

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Thank you for editing, now we can resume trying to continue trivia. And I never said I was the one picking up the torch, I even said I'm terrible at writing questions. Think of me more as an "Interim", who is going to try and make sure trivia continues, but not necessarily through me.

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well, the form of your post for example " I plan on keeping the same rules", "I feel that since I'm planning for everything else", and especially " I will make a proper thread for the actual event" may suggest that you want to be the one organizing future trivias, even if not the one making questions. And sorry Deiru, but in my personal opinion person who killed Trivia Nights should be kept away from it's continuation.

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Organising, yes. But not hosting. As I see it, Chronic was an organiser and the host, just that his hosting was seen more. Following the same rules as have been used for this long just makes sense to me, since it's what people are used to now, and it's why this thread exists.

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and so my comment remains - I believe that person responsible for killing Trivia Nights should be the last person on earth allowed to continue the tradition.

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And the fact of the matter is, I'm not discussing what happened to old trivia here. Personally, I don't believe it was my responsibility that Chronic couldn't read his own PMs, but I'm trying to organise a continuation with no bad will.

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And the fact of the matter is that person behind the event is as important as an event itself. If let's say Lance Armstrong were to organize big cycling rally would you consider his cycling shameful past not important?

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Lance Armstrong's drug-taking was quantifiable, and provable.

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And all the thing you made me edit out are also provable and obvious for anyone who will care to read through trivia log I will not post here, not to "call you out" again, but is easily accessible for anyone in the same place all other trivia logs always are ;)

So all you kids, go and read through it and then ask yourself a quastion - is ths the person you wish to organize and continue trivia nights' tradition.

Leaving the topic now, before I speak too much and actually write something suspend-worthy.

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Chronic has the power to ban me if what I was doing was against the rules. He did not ban me, and he even agrees in his own thread that what I was doing was not against the rules. As such, You claiming that it's provable is false.

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oh, so in your eyes your behavious of purposely spamming the same message over and over again just to distrupt the trivia as much as possible, like an angry little kid whose mom told him "no, we won't buy any candies" is totally fine and ok? Then good luck - if these are the standards by which you'd like to run your events, I'll just make sure to stay as far away from them as possible.

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I wasn't disrupting trivia. I was making sure that what I bought was used for what I bought it for, or the person who told me to buy it was gonna pay me back. I would also request that you delete this comment for once again calling out, since you are breaking Steamgifts rules yet again.

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then report me. No editing this time - cause after last edit you just used it as an excuse and started pulling out arguments that you were well aware cannot be countered without what you believe is "calling out".

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If you argument can't be made without breaking site rules, then it must not be a very good argument at all :)

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if you are constantly lying about what you did during last trivia it cannot really be coutered without "calling out" what exactly you did. It being good or bad counter is irrevelant in this case.

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I'm not lying, I'm simply stating this. You are accusing me of breaking the rules, hence why you're going against the calling out rule. Chronicdiscord and I both agree, no rules were broken. That's the end of it, really.

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I'm not accusing you of breaking the rules. I'm accusing you of harrassing, intentionally distrupting trivia and making a drama. None of these is against the rules.

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Harassing people isn't against the rules? Spamming isn't against the rules? I think you need to check, since those are things you accused me of. OR, you could actually make good on your earlier comment about leaving this thread. You're not providing any useful input whatsoever.

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I'm not providing any input that would be useful for you. In my own opinion warning ppl who may not be aware of the situatiuon that the person alegedly willing to carry on trivia nights is the one that I personally believe is partially responsible for their fall is very useful input.

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It was half zoo half WWE event every Sunday night, the logs are freely available.

I don't know where you get this "partially" from.

I was ostracized and diddled for being a sponsor, "people" overstepping "their" bounds, backseat modding, skirting the rules etc, if a mod isn't going to be in charge of trivia then I hope it IS removed from the chat, good riddance to what has amounted to little more than authoritative usurpation and bullying.

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well, I believe it's only "partially" his fault, because in my opinion it was just a straw that broke the camel's back. There were other issues on Trivia night previously, causeb by a number of users and surely each of them piece by piece added to the end we're seeing now. Nonetheless, it was OPs who caused the issues last Trivia, the ones that ended up being "just too much" and caused current situation, and I don't believe such an input is not "useful" at all. It's just not usefull and not wanted by the OP ;)

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+1

It's like some sort of corny joke.

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oneplusone? r/hailcorporate B1

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Yes, exactly like that :B1:

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+1
I have never taken part in the Trivia events, but I just read the log out of curiosity, and I wouldn't want this guy to be in charge.

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I would honestly say that unless you read all the other logs from trivia, you're not getting the full picture.

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I vote for new group. I can understand how could people find those announcements anoying when they weren't joining trivia nights (personally I never joined them either but I wasn't never that much bothered to complain or even being an ass about it). With new group you will have only people who are interested in the event so you'll get less toxic environment with (hopefully) friendlier people :)

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One other thing about making a new group, is that I could expand into other groups. Not make it STeamgifts only, get some other groups involved. Might result in a better userbase, as long as everyone understands that the giveaway will ultimately be made here.

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I'd be willing to throw my group in there

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At the moment, I have a tentative arrangement for MysteriousSir to host on the 7th of June. May change if needed, and no sponsor as of yet. Worst case scenario, I'll provide something from my bundle leftovers.

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riot B1

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I am all for a dedicated SG (or other) Trivia group used just for trivia and chat.
I think that is the best path to start traveling down with this new journey.

edit* I will help from time to time with the prizes as well. Or any other help that may be needed.

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Thanks for the input :)

It does seem to be going down this road now, but I'll leave the poll up until Chronic's trivia passes, just to make sure.

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Dedicated group idea sounds nice!

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Well, I've never seen a trivia (They were held at ~2 am in my location so I needed to sleep) so I have no idea how it looked like. But still, damn, bad for those who took part of it regularly :/

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I was toying around with the idea of changing the time of trivia, but I don't know how much I could change it without causing further issues.

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Voted for a new trivia group, this circumvents green names and people who are disinterested in trivia etc

Would it not be better for the new trivia master be elected? Gather all the people who wish to be the new tm and then vote on it, seems the most fair way.

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I would honestly keep the green name rule even in a separate group, just since it does help with visibility IMO.

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Wasn't suggesting we abolish it. I meant that the trivia master will be the only person with a green name in the chat, rather than a lot of green names from people who are in game and not participating in trivia.

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Oooohh, right. That makes more sense now I think about it actually.

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I would give input... but would have a certain individual try to get me banned. All I will say is, this is doomed to fail with out chronic.

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I believe it can be carried out. But certainly by a certain someone I will not name, because he will just accuse me of calling out and threaten to get me suspended if I don't delete my post :(

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Your input is valued as anyone elses, always is. I wasn't calling for your ban from the chat, just the one night of trivia. I mistakenly believed this was the standard, since Chronic banned psychockey earlier in the night, who I had requested not take part.

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As far as I'm concerned, there was a miscommunication. Chronic asked for my blacklist, and I sent him a screenshot of my Steamgifts blacklist. As an addendum to this, I had sent him the day before a message, saying that people who have me blocked should not be able to compete, as I would not be able to give them the prize. Chronic never relayed this information to anyone else.

And the message I asked to relay to you, was referring to solely my Steamgifts blacklist, which you're not on.

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As I mentioned at the time, I am currently unable to email, due to Virgin Media being a bunch of censoring fuckknuckles, who have managed to not only gimp my email, but also gimp imgur, and my Steam browser.

And as I said, The rule I gave to chronic was that anyone who had me blocked, could not take part and win. I haven't blacklisted everyone, because I simply don't know who has me blocked, other than a few people who are vocal about it.

And I'm not running a trivia night. I was just trying to organise it so that someone was. I enjoy competing far too much to host my own.

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I would like to see the trivia keep going in a separate group, but after taking a look at the logs, I'd suggest you let someone else handle it to avoid inconveniences.

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+9000

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As I have said, I would not be hosting most events. Just ensuring there are events. And once again, I would say that the public logs do nto paint the full picture.

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agreed

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The question is, will the new group be public or private.

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Public, with guests allowed in chat. I would not want to make it so that people had to join the group to take part, I would only want it as a venue.

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