A monthly Bundle? What will you do?
Chances of giving a game i already own on steam are too big... not worth it for me.
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To quote the FAQ above (which I suggest that you read):
We're trying our best to pick a good mix of some of our favorite classic games, and hot new games! Each month's Humble Monthly release will include a mix of games never before released in a Humble Bundle, and some of our favorite classics from previous bundles.
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They said "Discover games that haven't been featured in other bundles".
Too bad they didn't said straight "that weren't bundled by our competition", because I read this one as never bundled before.
Edit: Ok, I guess you can say "well, they never said all will be new, even 1 new game means they didn't lie". But then, it's hardly a feature to advertise...
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Ok, I guess you can say "well, they never said all will be new, even 1 new game means they didn't lie".
yup.
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lol this looks like more and more an effort to 'scam' (not a proper wording) people, based on what has been released so far.
It's extremely easy for being vague yet retaining their honesty. Suppose they say all haven't been bundled, they could argue they have never bundled it before, despite it's bundled by other sources e.g Indie gala or Groupees.
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Humble is around 50 people. I won't call that a big company (although not small either). And I've yet to see Humble make a serious mistake. Sure, they try some things (like pricing schemes) which not everyone likes, but I don't think they've lied about anything or did things which are anti-consumer.
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Thanks! The post really got TLTR. :) Personally I would add all guesses to the TLDR section.
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Three guesses in and I don't see this being worth $12, especially since I have Legend of Grimrock II already.
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that's the only game i don't have out of this bundle so far. not sure if it'll be worth it for me just to get TLOG2
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The bundle is looking really underwhelming so far, especially with logic dictating that it should be awesome to hook people in for another couple of months. I also love the lie about paypal not being able to accommodate their payment system when there's plenty of MMOs and services that handle monthly subs via paypal. It's probably to keep people from doing easy chargebacks when disappointment hits, since i doubt they'll be doing any refunds.
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Sad but true, the Paypal thing really stinks. Like you said, there's plenty of evidence for monthly subscription payments via Paypal.
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I guess there's a difference between MMOs subscription and this subscription.
In MMOs subscription, you know exactly what you buy.
Here, you know nothing about bought product, there's not even guarantee it will actually have 2nd Edition...
For comparison, you can't use paypal on Kickstarter, companies allow paypal payments ONLY after they receive their minimal goal on Kickstarter.
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I don't really see any of those as being issues, there's plenty of blind buy systems that use paypal as an option, it's not like paypal has any rules against it or anything. Not having a 2nd bundle wouldn't be an issue either, it's not like they're charging people in advance for multiple bundles, tho i can see that as maybe being an excuse if you're saying it's too much trouble to set up before they know this monthly stuff will become a thing. Tho, with all the advertisement and such that they've done, it would make them look ridiculous if they quit after 1 month.
And yeah companies on KS allow paypal as an option after the minimum is hit(some never do) but that's to protect against getting trolled with fake pledges and not meeting their goal, i don't really see what that has to do with a monthly game bundle :)
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Another reason is because Paypal allows you to cancel recurring payments without going through the seller, and that would cause problems if they had subscription info in their system but couldn't put the payments through. The followup would be a logistical nightmare. With credit cards, you have to contact Humble to cancel, unless you want to cancel your credit card, which people are unlikely to do for one seller.
Now of course, people might be able to use prepaid cards if they're uncomfortable giving out actual credit card info, or maybe even one-time use numbers, but I think Paypal makes it far too easy and that's one reason why they're not allowing it yet.
And the Paypal user agreement and fee structure may not be as advantageous as the terms Humble has through Stripe doing it's payment processing. It's not just about chargebacks, although that is a legit concern for a blind bundle, but how much it costs in fees compared to credit cards.
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The prophecy skill of some ppl here must be legendary. I cant and I wouldnt say anything about the bundle if its worth or not until I`ve seen what they bundled for me at 6/11. If you now think its not worth and you getting scammed, tell me why? You havent deliverd anything expect LoG 2 and the other games have one fucking hint each. Wait and see...
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Why is Transistor in guessed games? I don't see a big sword or any futuristic stuff in the hints.
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if you search "transistor" in the search box for this thread, you will come up with the following results here.
vhAdam: Why not? Everything is possible, someone already said that the video sword is very reminiscent of the sword of transistor game and the person in the background reminds me of that game.
and
SolSys: They might have given some.
In the video that sword reminded me of Transistor [same dev of Bastion - and ofc I already bought it].
Maybe the fire, runes and spiked balls are from some other games?
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thanks for digging that up :)
well the sword is glowing blue, so it's not too far off. but it could also be a coincidence. it looks more like fantasy than sci-fi to me
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Could Trine be in it? Given the lantern and the fleur de lis, which has 3 spikes, sort of.......
And those 2 seem to be connected
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If this person is right, the games will be:
- Saints Row 4 (roughly $17)
- Besieged (roughly $9)
- Valkria Chronicles (roughly $21)
- The unlock (which I assume everyone has seen) was Legends of Grimlock 2 (roughly $30)
- There looked to be LoG2 DLC as well but I don't see it on steam store.
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Well if it's saint row and valkryia chronicles I guess I have to find people to trade them then.
I'm kinda disappointed with this considering last 2 bundle is great ( capcom and jumbo ) at least for me.
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"Hint 0 - added 10/9 view here <-- all closed doors"
But one door is already open in that graphic, showing the lantern. So, does that represent Legend of Grimrock 2, and not anything else people have speculated about? If so, how do lanterns figure in the game?
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https://twitter.com/humble/status/659430686428823552 - next door open (garage doors) - for me it looks like dubstep gun from SRIV
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That's clearly an old-school boombox, not the dubstep gun. You can even see the space for the cassette player.
Plus, SRIV has already been strongly hinted/revealed.
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A user, who posted right below that new twitter post, mentions an AMA with the VP of HB I sound so stupid
She also mentions that they still hope to make paypal payments available before the first bundle starts on Nov. the 6th.
Jeah new info , is it ? .... but looking at OP i doubt that it needs even more information . WALLOFTEXT
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._. lol.
Just appreciate the fact that I put up a TLDR. If people wanna learn more about the bundle, they can read :/
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We don't have time to do no stinking reading. That is what we don't pay you for. :-D
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Oh boy. I subscribed a while back and it turns out I have all but a couple of the games guessed so far. Good games but old enough that I've picked them up on sale.
Oh well, guess I'll give away this month's extras and let it ride another month to see what happens.
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The Reddit user saw four out of six games. Transistor may still be included. "Transistor radio" is a common phrase, so unless you can come up with a game that might better match with the radio picture in the hints posted from their Twitter account, I think Transistor would probably be a good bet. But it's not a sure thing, obviously.
Edit: I suppose the radio could be the Dub-step gun from Saints Row IV, but thought the fleur-de-lis was already hinting at a game in the Saints Row series. Would they really double up on games from the same series in their first bundle?
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It's an old-school boombox. The cassette player is right there.
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That's why I don't like the guessing game. 12$ is a lot to me especially after I've already bought 2 bundles this month XD. If I knew what titles would be in it, I could maybe tell myself I can spare them, but for a bundle we are only guessing and probably have at least one of the games ( Rogue Legacy ). I just can't bring myself to spend so much (broke ass Bulgarian University Student XD) .
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What's the justification for thinking that Transistor might be in the bundle? On what is the guess based?
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People were guessing Transistor would be included weeks ago based on the sword in the promotional video. The blade is the right color, but the hilt looks very different. Then again, one of the hint pictures is a radio, and "transistor radio" is a very common phrase. At least, I can't imagine what other game the picture of the radio is hinting towards.
Edit: I suppose the radio could be the Dub-step gun from Saints Row IV, but thought the fleur-de-lis was already hinting at a game in the Saints Row series. Would they really double up on games from the same series in their first bundle?
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Then again, one of the hint pictures is a radio, and "transistor radio" is a very common phrase. At least, I can't imagine what other game the picture of the radio is hinting towards.
My first thought was Inside My Radio
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OK, but that "radio" is more specifically an old-school boombox. Might want to follow that trail for clues.
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someone asked me that yesterday. My reply to them is a couple comments above this one.
i will copy and paste.
if you search "transistor" in the search box for this thread, you will come up with the following results here.
vhAdam: Why not? Everything is possible, someone already said that the video sword is very reminiscent of the sword of transistor game and the person in the background reminds me of that game.
and
SolSys: They might have given some.
In the video that sword reminded me of Transistor [same dev of Bastion - and ofc I already bought it].
Maybe the fire, runes and spiked balls are from some other games?
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I see. So we're assuming there are hints not just in the Twitter art, but also in the video and maybe even the background of the main bundle page. Got it.
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That might mean something indeed. So it could be six more games, with Legend of Grimrock 2 being an extra incentive bonus game. But I wouldn't want to make any assumptions about that, either. Better to expect five more games and become pleasantly surprised than expect six more games and become slightly disappointed.
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i think if your getting it each month it is normally 5ish not always going to be the same & you'll already own the bonus game from the last bundle so ain't no bonus for subscribers
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Here's a question I think some people might have that I don't think has been answered yet: Will the games in the Humble Monthly count towards CV as bundle games, or will they be treated like most Humble Bundle tier 3 games, and remain unbundled? Legend of Grimrock 2 is still listed as unbundled, of course, but that doesn't mean that it might not become added to the list of bundled games at a later date, retroactive to the point that the Humble Monthly was first announced.
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that question is already in the OP listed as:
Some lingering questions...(If you have a burning question or answer to add, please let me know!)
Q: Will these games be added to the bundled list?
Thanks
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Yes, I just wanted to bring it up again, since it hasn't been answered yet. I thought that a message post might spur the discussion a bit more. I know that the parent post is quite thorough, and I didn't mean for my question to seem even the slightest bit critical of the information there.
And thank you for keeping us up-to-date on all the great bundles.
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It's not really feasible to answer that without knowing what the games are first. However, assuming the 95% discount rule is still being used, then the combined value of all the games in the bundle would have to be $240 or more in order for them to make the bundle game list. Assuming there were 7 games they would have to average almost $35 each. If you do the math it seems unlikely.
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That's a really good answer, actually. We can make some guesses about what might be in the bundle, but hitting $240 in retail value seems unlikely with what we know so far. I hope you're right, and the 95% rule is applied to the Monthly Bundle.
Thanks for the awesomely logical and thought-out answer!
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I really am torn about this offer. I already have LoG2 and Paypal is my weapon of choice in purchasing anything. But the hinted games are tempting.
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It cant be Saints Row 4 as it has been in a bundle before and it was gonna be games that hasnt been bundled before
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