I heard that you can have multiple games open and still get your trading card drops for all the games, so umm, I sorta just.... did this....


UPDATE: After about 20 minutes of idling I have already gotten four drops from a random handful of the games I'm idling. I don't know if there's a drop ratereduction, but if there is, it can't be too bad.

UPDATE 2: It's been another 30 minutes and I haven't gotten a single additional drop after the first four. I think I hit a glass ceiling...

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enjoy ur vac ban

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VAC bans are for games, not for Steam itself.

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you don't know what you are talking about .. ITS games you "supposedly" run there right? press the wrong thing and you shall see if vac is for games only

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Nope, it's only if you cheat on VAC-secured game servers. source

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YOU don't know what you are talking about.
Lazy people have been using SAM for ages and nobody has gotten banned for it. Because VAC is anti cheat for game servers.

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that is not how VAC works..

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The only thing that could happen is getting his account locked or suspended, VAC ban is for games, not steam.

VAC stands for Valve Anti Cheat, which is used in games that use the steam central servers for backups/hosting their stuff. There are more and more games adding to the VAC list lately, it's not entirely perfect but it keeps most of the hackers at bay, only pro one's manage to break through without getting caught by the system.

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thank you for clarifying this out for me, i don't know what vac is, i only have steam since 2003 my bad..
(no its not this one its another one with just 1 game)

11 years ago
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Why did you act like your knowledge about VAC was better than other people then?

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do you know what IRONY is?

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Yea, it's like goldey and bronsey, only it's made of iron.

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lololol

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Ladies please...calm down

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If you're going to be ironic about something at least pick a thing you know about.

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He means SAECASM, not irony.

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You mean SARCASM, doofus. Irony is something entirely different. And you're still dead wrong about getting a VAC ban for using SAM.

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Hey, just trying to help humanity become less stupid little by little, so i made my move.

LOL

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VAC is for games.

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it is my understanding.. that if you use a 3rd party to modify/ create a false environment to gain those achievements, you might get vac banned.. so do a lot of folks on steam community forums :)

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"In a VAC-protected game", you forgot to add.

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And you're completely ignoring this : https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?p_faqid=370

11 years ago
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Link doesn't work.

11 years ago
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Huh. I just copied it from that other guy.

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It broke because you didn't make it a clickable link, so Steam Gifts' Markdown parser thought the underscores in the URL were for italics.

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the link doesn't work anyway, even if you changed the italics to non-italics

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You missed the part about underscores. :)

Try this

If it doesn't work, there's an underscore between kb and article, and another one between p and faqid :) (delimiting the part that this forum printed in italics :) )

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NO

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What you're talking about is how VAC scans memory for running processes and DLL hooks while you're running a game to check for processes which try and hook something the game uses, and modify it, or known cheats and their checksums / signatures. That has nothing to do with using SAM, nor does SAM count as "cheating software", so it's not on VAC's list of checksums for known cheats, not does it modify game processes in a way that could be considered cheating by any stretch of the imagination. Some people have gotten temp. account blocks for farming achieves during the 2011 winter sale for coal using it. Nothing else.

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Are you stupid?

11 years ago
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did i insult you?

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Lawl like he would get banned for this.

11 years ago
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wont get a vac ban for running SAM lol

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you only get cards by playing/idling in games, not by achievements lol, and you don't actually have the games open, you just have tabs for the achievements for each of the games which you can unlock.

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If you open the game's window in SAM, Steam thinks you're in game.

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Why you got that thing? You can give yourself achievements with that?

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Yep, but it also works for making Steam think you're idling in a game without actually having to be running that game.

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Why do that though? I mean what's the point

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I only use it for idling; someone told me that they discovered it worked for idling for trading cards so I downloaded it just for that. I don't use it to scam myself achievements.

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Even so, I don't think this is something you should be openly admitting to doing on a public forum, and/or spreading the information on how to do it (whether intentionally or not).

But whatever, I'm not a mod or a cop.

Or am I?
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Don't know if that achievement system is new or old but first time I hear about it and I wondering, does steam knows about this? Is it dangerous to use (getting banned) and I would like a source if you can give me one about this thing.

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The guy who makes it includes a warranty that he is not responsible for any trouble you get yourself in with it, but I don't know of anyone getting in trouble for using it (though I haven't looked very hard). Just google "steam achievement manager" to find it.

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Obviously, it's only our fault if we use it, he doesn't make us use it. It's normal. But the thing is I would love to use it but I am not sure if I can be banned using it or by breaking one of the policies of Steam beacuse I really don't like getting VAC banned if you know what I mean but ehh, looks dangerous maybe I shall give it some more time to "cook" and see what Steam says about it or just ask support if it's really needed.

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Valve is usually pretty generous to its customers if there's any chance that they were innocent in the matter (i.e. no one who redeemed a stolen DiRT 3 key got punished for it besides having the game removed from their account), so I'm just taking a risk and hoping for the best.

Plus, if they had a way to detect SAM right now, I'm sure they'd be using it. As a programmer, I think that, unless SAM is coded in some remarkably bad way that makes it obvious that it's not the real Steam client, there most likely isn't any way to detect use of SAM. They could try using heuristics to predict who might be using SAM, but I'm guessing that that would give false positives for a lot of genuine game idlers, so they probably wouldn't do that.

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Mm, but, if lets say I would like to give myself a few achievements, how can valve stop me from doing so IF the SAM wasn't allowed, I mean, they can't re-take the achievements that what worries me.

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This program was popular on Christmas 2011 when for archivement you recive a coal witch gives you games.

11 years ago
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wat

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Hmm, I always thought only 1 game can be opened at the time, but steam let me open multiple games, so I opened any games that will drops cards for me. Sadly, only 1 game was dropping cards which was the game when it says:

Username
In-game
Whatever Game

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Damn, I guess that was a waste of time ._.

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Yep, I left 4 games going for around an hour, and only 1 was getting cards.

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Hmm, actually I got cards from four of the games I'm idling already. Maybe something was weird when you did it (like maybe it only works if you use SAM and not if you actually have the games running).

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I left four games open at the same time last night, and in the morning had 2 cards from each of them - card drops seem slower from that than from running one game at a time...

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Nope. I run 2-3 games from time to time, and they all drop cards. Castle Crashers and Organ Trail just dropped a card for me at almost the exact same time.

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+1. Though for me it was Dust and Terraria

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Nice. I just picked up Terraria. I wanted to get Dust, but I've already spent way too much this sale, and will probably spend more. Besides, I don't think it will take Dust too long to get a little bit cheaper.

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Hmm, thats weird.

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I was idling Organ Trail and Terraria today while at work and got my cards just fine. The first game you start is the one that will show you as playing in your profile, but both will drop cards.

Also I didn't really think the drop rate was any slower than when I ran just one game at a time. I didn't time it or anything, but to me it feels faster to idle one and play another, likely because I'm not itching to go and play a game I want to play now rather than one that just got trading cards.

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One time I opened Bit.Trip Beat, Bit.Trip Core, Bit.Trip Void, and Bit.Trip Runner all at once and played them simultaneously

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WOW just WOW

11 years ago
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No, using SAM and getting achievements will not earn you cards. You need to idle or play the games that include trading cards for it to work.

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SAM makes steam think you're running the game.

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Ah, never knew that. Still, running multiple games will drop the chance of getting the cards.

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Interesting, I just run them simultaneously. Some don't handle being alt-tabbed very well, but most have been fine idling in the background. Guess your method is simpler, however... :)

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I just keep like 7 games open and play one.

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Anecdotal evidence suggests idling multiple games at the same time slows the card drop rate significantly.

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Yeah I saw that too, but I figure this way I can just leave it that way and at least this takes away my need to always be worrying about whether or not I'm running any games.

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It does.

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This is true, i had 3 games running at once (trine 2, CS:GO, tf2) got my first 3 cards in each game, then only 1 of the games got cards relatively fast/normal pace (trine 2), i believe idling makes it even worst as one of the games didn't drop my last card without playing at least 3 freaking hours of that game (CS:GO).

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I can vouch for this through personal experience.

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As can I.

11 years ago
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Don't Even Show it here you should close this Thread right now..

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I don't think Steam will close my account based on a screenshot of something that may or may not actually be in violation of any rules that someone who may or may not actually be me posted on a non-official forum.

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It's still Pretty much Like Advertising an Hack on the forums. I don't think Steam would like this Since there were already many event's that made you get achievements for the event, Winter 2011 for explain so best to just blur the name because what if more people start to use it =/

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I had just finished idling all my games, and then like 20 more of my games got cards. :P (not that I'm complaining about getting free money)

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Using a 3rd party program to do it yes. Idling multiple games no.

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I don't think anybody knows for sure if the drop rates are reduced or not, I honestly doubt it. Drops are pretty random to begin with, I left portal 2 open for over 8 hours and didn't get a single card for example.

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That's because there might be a drop limit per week, i had the same issue in early beta, got a ton of drops then i went 3 days non stop without any drops. I think it's similiar to TF2 drop system, it resets at X day and time for everyone.

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I agree with zeus. it would make sense for them to do it tf2 style

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Does idling a game increase chance of booster pack?

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Okay. Thanks.

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Nope, you don't need the game running to get a booster. You only need to have received all your cards for this game.

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There's 3 things affect the chance of getting booster pack.

  • Your Level.
  • You already collected all the cards from a game
  • You have to log in Steam each week.
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I logged off for the night, logged back in the next morning and received a notice saying I got a 1 new item in inventory and it was a booster pack. So no, you don't even need to be logged in to get a booster pack.

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Yup, you might even just wake up, log in and see that you have a shiny booster just appeared in the inventory.

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no, I got a booster pack while not in game, just at the main Steam window. Hadn't played anything in an hour or so either.

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And you don't even have to be online in Steam at the time. The one I got was after waking up and starting up my computer that I noticed I got a booster drop.

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^this, came home after a week (PC off), came to steam, got booster drop for BL2.

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The requirements for getting a booster pack for a game are:
1 - You must have already gotten all the card drops for that game
2 - You must have logged in to steam at least once during that week

You can get them at any time.

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Exactly, I got a booster pack for a game I had not played since getting all the cards for it.

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dont think so

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I tried to launch alot of games for cards and its faster to do 1 at a time for some reason.

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does this work with games that are not downloaded? Pretty tempting if so.

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Yup! SAM can pretend to be playing any game that you own (or any F2P game), whether it's downloaded or not.

One thing worth noting: if the game doesn't have any achievements or statistics, it won't automatically show up on the list, so you'll have to type in the game ID in SAM's search box and hit "Add Game". I had to use that for FTL and Kerbal Space Program.

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"any game that you own"

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That'd be really cool (although likely to get your account suspended), but no, SAM gives you an error if you try to open a game you don't own.

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Hmmm, now that you mention that, I do have access to an alt account with all of Valve's games on it.... rubs hands together mischeviously

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Perhaps I will give it a shot. Donwloading 20GB games that I already completed is a no-no for me, so this will com in handy.

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i actually launch and run a bunch of games simultaneously.. works for me, but for some reason, i can't have more than one Valve game running at once..

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Valve games running on the source engine can't run simultaneously I believe. Or just Valve games in general.

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Only one instance of the Source engine can run at a time, if I'm not mistaken. So not only Valve games, but also 3rd party ones using Source, such as The Ship.

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OR Zeno Clash

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You just accelerated the process that is getting card drops, really doubt anything will happen. It's not like you stole extra cards or whatever.

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I kno in the beginning when I idl'd TF2 I played another game at the same time and I got cards from both. However it was definitely alot slowed then when I just ran one game.

In regards to other people stating if Valve cares about 'cheating' to get cards? They dont care. THink of all the "Tax" they are making from selling the cards. Im willing to bet (alot) they are making just as much money if not more from the Tax then the games themselves. Value/Gabe are geniuses!!

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Does this work for TF2 idling? XD

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You don't get items by just running the game

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Remember the time when people used Steam to actually play video games.... yeah, me neither .....

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Playing games? I heard the lgends but it is said that the old knowledge of the ancient was lost long ago; even if we wanted to we wouldn´t know how to...

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Since you can get money from card, I hope you gonna be ban from steam

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that makes no sense. This only makes steam get even more money,as they receive a cut for every card sale-

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so Steam would approve cheating and hacking to get more money? you have no senses of what is honesty.

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It is neither cheating nor hacking. It is the same thing as having multiple games open at the same time like I have been doing and it is in no way immoral, wrong, or dishonest.

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its not either cheating or hacking.

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You still get the same amount of cards, just faster, so how would someone be making more money doing this?

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Lol nuh uh!! I have used profits from steam cards to buy 3 new games since the summer sale started.

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I approve of your disapproval.

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I disapprove of your disapproval.

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Don't you only get 3-4 cards per game anyways ??

go to your badge page and it says "card drops remaining" So I don't get how this would help one bit.

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It helps by removing the need to download the games.

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