you don't know what you are talking about .. ITS games you "supposedly" run there right? press the wrong thing and you shall see if vac is for games only
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The only thing that could happen is getting his account locked or suspended, VAC ban is for games, not steam.
VAC stands for Valve Anti Cheat, which is used in games that use the steam central servers for backups/hosting their stuff. There are more and more games adding to the VAC list lately, it's not entirely perfect but it keeps most of the hackers at bay, only pro one's manage to break through without getting caught by the system.
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thank you for clarifying this out for me, i don't know what vac is, i only have steam since 2003 my bad..
(no its not this one its another one with just 1 game)
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You mean SARCASM, doofus. Irony is something entirely different. And you're still dead wrong about getting a VAC ban for using SAM.
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it is my understanding.. that if you use a 3rd party to modify/ create a false environment to gain those achievements, you might get vac banned.. so do a lot of folks on steam community forums :)
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And you're completely ignoring this : https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?p_faqid=370
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What you're talking about is how VAC scans memory for running processes and DLL hooks while you're running a game to check for processes which try and hook something the game uses, and modify it, or known cheats and their checksums / signatures. That has nothing to do with using SAM, nor does SAM count as "cheating software", so it's not on VAC's list of checksums for known cheats, not does it modify game processes in a way that could be considered cheating by any stretch of the imagination. Some people have gotten temp. account blocks for farming achieves during the 2011 winter sale for coal using it. Nothing else.
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you only get cards by playing/idling in games, not by achievements lol, and you don't actually have the games open, you just have tabs for the achievements for each of the games which you can unlock.
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If you open the game's window in SAM, Steam thinks you're in game.
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Why you got that thing? You can give yourself achievements with that?
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Even so, I don't think this is something you should be openly admitting to doing on a public forum, and/or spreading the information on how to do it (whether intentionally or not).
But whatever, I'm not a mod or a cop.
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Don't know if that achievement system is new or old but first time I hear about it and I wondering, does steam knows about this? Is it dangerous to use (getting banned) and I would like a source if you can give me one about this thing.
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The guy who makes it includes a warranty that he is not responsible for any trouble you get yourself in with it, but I don't know of anyone getting in trouble for using it (though I haven't looked very hard). Just google "steam achievement manager" to find it.
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Obviously, it's only our fault if we use it, he doesn't make us use it. It's normal. But the thing is I would love to use it but I am not sure if I can be banned using it or by breaking one of the policies of Steam beacuse I really don't like getting VAC banned if you know what I mean but ehh, looks dangerous maybe I shall give it some more time to "cook" and see what Steam says about it or just ask support if it's really needed.
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Valve is usually pretty generous to its customers if there's any chance that they were innocent in the matter (i.e. no one who redeemed a stolen DiRT 3 key got punished for it besides having the game removed from their account), so I'm just taking a risk and hoping for the best.
Plus, if they had a way to detect SAM right now, I'm sure they'd be using it. As a programmer, I think that, unless SAM is coded in some remarkably bad way that makes it obvious that it's not the real Steam client, there most likely isn't any way to detect use of SAM. They could try using heuristics to predict who might be using SAM, but I'm guessing that that would give false positives for a lot of genuine game idlers, so they probably wouldn't do that.
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Mm, but, if lets say I would like to give myself a few achievements, how can valve stop me from doing so IF the SAM wasn't allowed, I mean, they can't re-take the achievements that what worries me.
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Hmm, I always thought only 1 game can be opened at the time, but steam let me open multiple games, so I opened any games that will drops cards for me. Sadly, only 1 game was dropping cards which was the game when it says:
Username
In-game
Whatever Game
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Yep, I left 4 games going for around an hour, and only 1 was getting cards.
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Hmm, actually I got cards from four of the games I'm idling already. Maybe something was weird when you did it (like maybe it only works if you use SAM and not if you actually have the games running).
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I was idling Organ Trail and Terraria today while at work and got my cards just fine. The first game you start is the one that will show you as playing in your profile, but both will drop cards.
Also I didn't really think the drop rate was any slower than when I ran just one game at a time. I didn't time it or anything, but to me it feels faster to idle one and play another, likely because I'm not itching to go and play a game I want to play now rather than one that just got trading cards.
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No, using SAM and getting achievements will not earn you cards. You need to idle or play the games that include trading cards for it to work.
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Ah, never knew that. Still, running multiple games will drop the chance of getting the cards.
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This is true, i had 3 games running at once (trine 2, CS:GO, tf2) got my first 3 cards in each game, then only 1 of the games got cards relatively fast/normal pace (trine 2), i believe idling makes it even worst as one of the games didn't drop my last card without playing at least 3 freaking hours of that game (CS:GO).
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It's still Pretty much Like Advertising an Hack on the forums. I don't think Steam would like this Since there were already many event's that made you get achievements for the event, Winter 2011 for explain so best to just blur the name because what if more people start to use it =/
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I don't think anybody knows for sure if the drop rates are reduced or not, I honestly doubt it. Drops are pretty random to begin with, I left portal 2 open for over 8 hours and didn't get a single card for example.
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I agree with zeus. it would make sense for them to do it tf2 style
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Does idling a game increase chance of booster pack?
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I logged off for the night, logged back in the next morning and received a notice saying I got a 1 new item in inventory and it was a booster pack. So no, you don't even need to be logged in to get a booster pack.
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Yup, you might even just wake up, log in and see that you have a shiny booster just appeared in the inventory.
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does this work with games that are not downloaded? Pretty tempting if so.
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Yup! SAM can pretend to be playing any game that you own (or any F2P game), whether it's downloaded or not.
One thing worth noting: if the game doesn't have any achievements or statistics, it won't automatically show up on the list, so you'll have to type in the game ID in SAM's search box and hit "Add Game". I had to use that for FTL and Kerbal Space Program.
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Perhaps I will give it a shot. Donwloading 20GB games that I already completed is a no-no for me, so this will com in handy.
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i actually launch and run a bunch of games simultaneously.. works for me, but for some reason, i can't have more than one Valve game running at once..
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Valve games running on the source engine can't run simultaneously I believe. Or just Valve games in general.
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I kno in the beginning when I idl'd TF2 I played another game at the same time and I got cards from both. However it was definitely alot slowed then when I just ran one game.
In regards to other people stating if Valve cares about 'cheating' to get cards? They dont care. THink of all the "Tax" they are making from selling the cards. Im willing to bet (alot) they are making just as much money if not more from the Tax then the games themselves. Value/Gabe are geniuses!!
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Remember the time when people used Steam to actually play video games.... yeah, me neither .....
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Playing games? I heard the lgends but it is said that the old knowledge of the ancient was lost long ago; even if we wanted to we wouldn´t know how to...
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that makes no sense. This only makes steam get even more money,as they receive a cut for every card sale-
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It is neither cheating nor hacking. It is the same thing as having multiple games open at the same time like I have been doing and it is in no way immoral, wrong, or dishonest.
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Lol nuh uh!! I have used profits from steam cards to buy 3 new games since the summer sale started.
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I heard that you can have multiple games open and still get your trading card drops for all the games, so umm, I sorta just.... did this....
UPDATE: After about 20 minutes of idling I have already gotten four drops from a random handful of the games I'm idling. I don't know if there's a drop ratereduction, but if there is, it can't be too bad.
UPDATE 2: It's been another 30 minutes and I haven't gotten a single additional drop after the first four. I think I hit a glass ceiling...
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