Is it?"
Not played it but i guess to keep it open for a large public it must be easy, perhaps learn as you go?
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It's not really something that can be learned in a few hours, think Grand Strategy games, you could play 1,000 hours and still not understand whats happening. For example, would you even know where to start with a heat map analysis and how to develop your tactics from it?
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They added ProZone this year, which is a tool the Premier League and other major leagues cover. Heat map analysis shows various things, average positions with and without the ball of every player on the pitch. Every pass, shot, tackle, missed interception...lots of things. There's lots of options...
Here's another example.
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Huh? There are heat maps now? Neat!
The midfield appears to have been kinda crowded...
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ProZone was added this year, its great if you want to get really stuck into tactical analysis throughout the game or at the end of games.
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That's a nice addition!
Out of the 300+ hours I've played in FM2010 (outside Steam), I spent the majority of time analyzing past matches to perfect tactics, so a tool like this would've helped me immensely.
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300 hours? Casual...;) This only includes the game time I've had on Steam, nevermind the fact I've been playing it since the Amiga in the early 1990's.
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I would like to ask you a question regarding the FM16 discount price, since you have all the previous versions of the game.
So, the discount is 66% at the moment, do you think it will go any lower than that (maybe 75%) later this year - before the game will be removed from the store? Based on your experience with the previous titles of the series - if you remember :)
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Hmmmm....well....I kinda like the game. I have a few hours here and there in the game.
Imho, it is not newbie friendly. It is an intense and realistic simulator. The tactics are REALLY in depth and the player base is so extensive real teams use it as a scouting tool.
HOWEVER, that being said, there has been a lot done to make the game more accessible to a wider more "casual" audience in recent years. With a new mode adding a kind of "i like games and not football" casual mode where you can unlock perks to use like "unlimited transfer budget" and such. I wouldn't touch the mode with a barge pole personally but it's certainly something to look into if you just want a fun Footballing Management sim. Also a lot of things like training, team talks, transfers, tactics can ALL be automated by your assistant manager, you can even "holiday" for a set amount of time if you aren't enjoying it and let the game sim itself.
As Football games go, it is without doubt the best and most definitive game there ever has been on the sport.
In short, if you want to just mess around with a sporting sim, its probably going to be overwhelming however if you are willing to learn it is the most addictive game you'll ever play. If you are looking for a few hours of fun its a definite pass.
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Nailed it. Besides it being too complex for a beginner, I also doubt that someone who knows just the basic rules, can overcome getting into this game
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Especially if your basic rule set is knowing what corners are and things. How the hell would you manage learning different league systems for over 60 different nations. :)
"I'll just manage in England, oh what the fuck is FFP?"
"I'll just manage in Scotland, wait a minute, why has the league split in two for no real reason?"
"Italy seems ok....hang on....where's my reserve team?"
"Why is my B team in Spain winning the league but not getting promoted?!"
"What's a Ballon D'Or?"
etc etc etc
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My favorite would have been all that work permit, home grown and feeder club stuff. :)
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In addition to what I've said, I have an extensive amount of screenshots on my profile if you wanted to get a grasp of the screens that you would need to deal with. There are a HELL of a lot of YouTube videos out there, I'd recommend watching WorkTheSpace or DrBenjyFM if you wanted to get an insight into the game. Annnnnd I'm out, I could talk about this all day, so I'm refraining! :)
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You should try the free Soccer Manager: http://store.steampowered.com/app/356370/
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Well, you must know the basics about football. You're a manager in this game, not a player. But it's really to understand the sport, because the game will help you, so you can buy it.
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it's supposed to be one of the most addicting games ever made. i wouldn't touch it if i were you, lest you would want to ruin your life. like would you ever buy crack if it were legal? even though its probably really good i wouldnt because i know it can screw me up
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Well, this isn't FIFA or PES, it's a manager game.
Knowing players, teams, leagues and tactics is more important than knowing the rules.
You can think of as a Total War with football teams instead of armies.
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If I had to compare it to something, its like playing something like a clicker game based on medieval times and liking the medieval setting so you jump straight into Crusader Kings 2.
It's just going to be a totally overwhelming experience for someone new and I'd hate them to be put off the series or Football in general because of it.
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I've played most of the sports sim franchises that exist and I really recommend trying it. When I started on it, I knew nothing about the sport. I find them very useful for learning the in and outs of the each sport. The game is really advanced, up there with OOTP for being the best sims you can get on Steam.
My guess is that you will pick up on how to do things pretty quickly, followed by an understanding of the rules/limits, and then eventually you will know a fair amount of the real life people and begin to be able to make better decisions, when you are playing. That was how it went for me. I am from America, so the transfer system and the terms weren't things that I was really familiar with. I had them down within a reasonable amount of time, though. The finances and rules took longer, but eventually I understood enough of those, as well.
There is of course how complicated advanced sports sims can be and this one has a lot going on, so it might be that you get down everything you can do, only after a long time playing. I think you kind of get, at this point, that these games are learn as you go. You learn the sport if you don't know it and you learn the game. Even if you know the sport, learning the ins and outs of a game like this can take a long time.
I would recommend starting out in a popular, top level league, to start. It gets much more complicated when you have extreme limitations placed on you. Try that stuff later on.
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one sidenote: i agree with allrocol, but if you dont want to get overwhelmed by the game.. starting lower regions.. could be nice.. as the squad is smaller and easyer to manage (working your way up and getting players is harder though..) (make sure its still pro though, semi-pro or amateur will be to hard.. as players leave to easy.. and its hard to build for the future..
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Yeah, but he would see all the star players and want to run all the things, like scouting, and would have extreme limitations placed on him. I have always found it easier to start a never before played, sport sim franchise, with a reasonably big choice of team/club. That way you have access to everything and you can learn the ins and outs. When you play as a lower club, you end up with barely any power and you can't learn most of the systems.
Just my personal opinion, but you are better off jumping in the deep end and learning everything at once. Challenging, yes, but rewarding. Then when you want a later challenge, you can place limitations on yourself and you know what you have to do to build up. I do think there are casual setups with lower clubs, which is nice, but you would only be learning parts of the game. I like to learn everything, with a natural flow, and then later on challenge myself by placing myself in situations where I can't use most of it. All of a sudden players don't want to play for me, I have no budget, scouting isn't happening, etc...
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in the end its all a matter of personal interest i think :)
for myself. i love to build a team from scratch with (new generated) wel scouted players youth ect..
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its worth it,
its based on statistics of players, there are some things that are nice to know to improve things (like on tactics and training) some day you might look into it its not needed though, then again you can always google for 1 or 2 good tactics based on your style.. then let the training to your assistents and go :)
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I haven't played a recent incarnation, but the old Championship Manager taught me more about football than I ever thought I'd know - and probably extracted several years of my life. when the developer broke up with the publisher, they took the code with them and created Football Manager; the publisher retained the IP, but not the game engine, and the next incarnation was... disastrous
The strategy is deeper than any game in your library that you clocked over 5 hours in, and if you're even remotely interested in sport as a mental exercise, then it's a must-try game.
As others have said, start by picking one of the world's major teams, one with a huge budget and a roster of world-class players. There's more room for error as you're figuring out what you're doing, it's more forgiving and initially more fun. Then, when you think you know what you're doing, start over with a team you care about, and get ready for the struggle.
if your team is in a lower division, it'll take many seasons to work your way up, but then you just create short-term goals, like steering clear of relegation, or staying in the top half of the division
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Have 1000's of hours invested in CM & FM. I am a fan, i know the players, teams etc and not sure you will get the same appeal and fun if you don't. If you want to learn then it is a great tool for that.
As far as ease is concerned for a newbie, i would say very. It has an easier, quicker mode to play which cuts all the micro management side out of the game.
Bottom line - if you like football then go for it, can get it cheap nowadays in sales etc.
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I know the basic rules like corner kicks. However, I know nothing about the players or teams or pretty much anything outside of the basic rules.. Is this game still worth getting given these circumstances?
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