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Bump, thank you for the chances, but I think the current system works just fine with higher level giveaways, exclusive groups, etc. I don't think sg should introduce higher chances to anyone because it might become a paid site.

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Thanks, and bump!

Bump! :)

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Example of the idea: Person A sent 20 games and won 19, Person B sent 20 games and won 0, person B should have 2 or 3 or 4 times the chance of winning compared to person A (not equal chance), while CV Ratio of person B goes down his chance goes down too.

There is a user who sent out nearly two thousand keys and won four. He should then have like 70%+ chance to win any giveaway he enters, no?
Only he never spent a cent on those keys and they are keys for the same few one-dollar asset-flip card-farming games that were eventually delisted from the store, and with your system, he could just hoard up all the 60-120 dollar AAA games and 300+ dollar software he wants to if they ever get posted on this site—for doing literally nothing.

Random chance is random for a reason. CS:GO had enough issues with site owners manipulating the random draws, this section of the Steam side-economy does not need the same controversy as well. Even if the maturity and general intelligence of this user base is slightly higher than of CS:GO's.

This idea makes it possible to literally buy more chances to win a game by getting a bunch of small cheap bundle trash and quickly giving it away, suddenly changing your CV ratio a lot, and then enter giveaways for expensive games. It would be trivial to manipulate for people with money, and would worsen the chances significantly for people with a limited income who can perhaps only give rarely, or even never.

There's a lot of people who can't give at all at first, but that then later starts giving as they get the means. There are people here in the forums who have been looking for jobs for ages and finally find one and celebrate with huge giveaways. All these people would get less of a chance of winning by your standards, and be disadvantaged, to benefit people who has enough money that they could really have gone out and bought their own damn game rather than give away a bunch of stuff nobody really wants to get extra chances at something shiny.

If this site starts changing the odds of winning based on literally ANYTHING, it will lose a bunch of visitors, a bunch of people who otherwise gives freely - me included even though at the moment I would be getting an advantage by your plan.

This site needs to be fair, and fair means equal chances. If you want to make giveaways that are only for people with a certain CV ratio then you can use sgtools and make those available in the forums.

While I understand the sentiment, we already have peeps trying to game the CV system. There is no need to encourage such behaviour even more.

One should give because they genuinely feel like doing so. Not because they think this site is a p2w game.

Thanks for the great GAs!

Regarding your suggestion: There are wishlists and groups and if you want to reward generous people you don't know yet, just create SGTools GAs with high real CV ratio and long duration and check the participants to filter further and reward those who don't use CV exploits with wishlist or group slots.

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The main problem I can see with that is that ratio has the same issue as level: you can farm it by making tons of group GAs, and then happily raid public GAs.

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Higher CV users already have a higher chance of winning, because they can enter giveaways restricted to higher levels, which fewer people can enter.

Bump!

Another bump. Thanks a lot.

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Thanks, a nice selection of ga =)

Double bump!

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Bump. This is nice of you. I already have the two games from your list that I wanna play (This War of Mine and Dishonored).

I tend to enter GAs of games that I wanna play. Unfortunately, there are not a lot of GAs of those games, and when there are, they easily get drowned by lots and lots of entries.

I would vote for additional option in giveaways allowing us to select ratio or something like this because i'm a little bit disapointed when I check the winner and he got 2 created giveaways and 100+ wins and i really don't like to make giveaways using sgtools. That's why I started to make 4+ only giveaways. There's plenty of lvl 1 alt accounts using bots and auto entering all possible giveaways.

It's in the details where your idea falls flat. A newbie could unload a bunch of bundle trash, and then since they had won no games, they'd have a huge ratio, then enter all the AAA games.
If you use real cv, then you're favouring those who have more money to spend. If you use regular cv, it is exploitable.
Besides, I never really got the connection between giving and getting as a measure of generosity:
If someone gifted 5 games and won 2, how are they less generous than someone who gifted 5 games and won 5?

There is already way to much CV padding to access high lvl public GA. This would make it even worse.

Bump. Thanks for the chance.

I don't know if even people with high CVs would agree to the change? Personally, I give because I can, not to increase my chances of winning. Spending money to increase my ratio to increase my chances of winning something is bad economy really, rather just buy the games I want outright. The level restrictions and SG tools already give you the tools you need to create giveaways as you want, so I think it's better if the decision is in the hands of the giveaway creator, as not everyone who makes a giveaway would want it weighted in favour of the givers.