Ok, maybe the title goes a little too far, I understand the logic behind consumer giveaways with a threshold of up to $50.00, they are to show appreciation for those who participate in both giving and receiving in (somewhat) equal amounts. However, anything above that is a complete waste. The point of steamgifts (in my opinion) is to allow those who can afford to buy games help out those who can not, and when you make a giveaway exclusively for highly valued contributors what's the point? They have obviously shown they can afford the games they want and have some to spare, so chances are if they do not have the game you are giving away they are not that interested in it, and wouldn't appreciate it as much as someone who wants the game, but can't afford it. Not to mention that many of the contributors are companies/websites rather than individuals.

In no way is this post meant to detract from the top contributors, you guys are awesome, generous people. Each of you deserve a medal.

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lol

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You can get a medal

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If you want to give something to someone who, like you, likes to give things to other people - you make a contributor giveaway.
This idea is great, because it gives steamgifts more depth.

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^this

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Well said my friend

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+1

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this

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Exactly what I think.

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Says a guy who made no giveaways

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As I mentioned in my post, I'm one of the people who can not afford to buy games

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your problems

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-1 We're not all rich enough to buy games just to give them away.

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then dont complain when people who are give stuff away on their own terms

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Who said i was complaining? I'd just rather not be labeled a leech because i haven't spent lots of money.

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then at least thank people for making giveaways

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How does that count towards anything? It's a comment i'll thank them when i win.

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F*** them if they give, unless I am the one getting it, then I shall thank them.

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Well isn't it rather impersonel (and frankly a waste of time) to just post thanks on every giveaway i enter when i could thank them in person?

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I like to thank them for the opportunity, but both sides raise valid arguments here.

Some people can't afford games, so they look for the generosity of others on sites like these instead of pirating. They don't beg (because they're banned pretty quick), and usually say thank you when they win.

On the other hand, people are allowed to do what they will with their disposable income, and if that means giving back to the people who (may have) gifted you in the past, then reciprocity is their style.

It's a tough call.

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Did I just read this right, you think gifting a game to someone else here is wasting your money?

If so, wow.

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Oops my mistake i'll fix that.

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Ah, ok. While I don't have time to read all of the responses here, I don't agree with your first post on how the site should or shouldn't be used. I think it's a nice feature that can be used as the gifter sees fit. It's their money / game to give away; they can do it in a way that they see fit.

I doubt you'll see every giveaway going contributor only so I wouldn't stress too much.

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I'm certainly not rich, I'm a student with a shitty job. But I still give stuff away whenever I can.

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Well good for you i rarely have the money to buy games let alone give them away!

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Fortix

0.99USD

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And i'd get 64 pence value for my contributer level aka not worth it.

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Its the thought that counts. And Fortix speaks to many. It shows manliness, guts and glory.

I'd play Fortix Roulette.

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Hmm you do raise a good point. One day i shall play.

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Same here

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u have more than 200 games so maybe u can, u just dont want to. easy.

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I'm staying neutral for this one.

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get a job.

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This may blow your mind, but 'getting a job' does not automagically make you have enough money to spend on games in all cases.

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+100

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If you cant make money for games then you shouldn't have the free time to be playing them. If OP spent the time it took to put 800 entries into the site he could have worked long enough to buy any game he wanted.

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or go find a rich dad.

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821 entries, 0 won, 2 comments, wow

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Don't see how this is relevant to an opinion.

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you just whine

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I'm voicing an opinion, not crying about how I haven't won anything. Honestly I enjoy steamgifts mostly because it gets me interested in games I haven't heard of before. Don't know why instead of discussing the topic people resort to ad hominem to discredit it.

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This is an awesome part of steamgifts - drawback is there is so many great games and so little time to play them!

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Its a non issue. I don't see any other reason why we're discussing this topic other than leechers wanting more giveaways, or wanting to get into other exclusive giveaways.

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+1

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its not releveant to your opinion but its relevant to us to know that you arent even making the time to thank the people that make giveaways that you entered

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+1, just wow :O

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Oh dear, I think OP should have stayed at home today.

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So true lol

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So true lol

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True enough to post twice ?

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That is why its optional my leeching friend

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To be fair, he hasn't won anything either. So nothing lost, nothing gained.

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Right, but you never lose something. Think about Newton's third law. "Every action has a reaction" (with emphasis on 'reaction') :P

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Every Action has an Equal and Opposite Reaction?
So when he enters a giveaway, then at the same time a giveaway enters him?

Creepy ...

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In Soviet Russia, Steam gifts you.

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lol

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sexy

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The day where a game can win you.

shudders

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I'm a guy that given away stuff and I find the high amount ones, say $300, ridiculous.

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True

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dat fortix giveaway

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I've only done one contributor giveaway for 2.99 to pay it forward after a win.

I personally see it as a great tool that makes public giveaways a viable option again. A majority of the time one of my public wins goes to someone who barely appreciates it or doesn't play it. I've also had people win entire collections just for a few DLCs or just trade their wins off. This is why I ended up starting my own group which puts an emphasis on entering for stuff you want rather than everything under the sun. At least those that have contributed to the site have a better chance at understanding how things work here.

If people want to make giveaways with extremely high contributor amounts, it is their prerogative. Honestly, I forgo buying some things for myself and would rather buy multiple games on sale to give away here. A lot of people don't realize or don't care that regardless of the gift, a person's time, effort, or money went into acquiring it. It is nice to have generosity appreciated by fellow community members.

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Bingoooo

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Although I've only given away to $0.00, $0.01 and $50 so far, I'm planning on doing a few higher giveaways in order to reward those that give things away to others. Perhaps they'll join for a game that they wouldn't normally buy from themselves which they'll then go on to enjoy?

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meanies dont get medals!

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You can have two

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I give you -1 medal (-1 is actually stealing one) xP

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I give you chocolade medal

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I just don't like them because I've given away nearly $100 worth of games on other sites like reddit and TF2r- and can verify them- but because it wasn't on this site I get labeled as a leech and can't enter some giveaways. frustrates me a lot

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If I want to give away a game that I own and there are different options on how to make it accessible, then it is MY decission, what options to pick.

Having said that, I also respect that I can not enter some giveawas, because I do not meet the criteria, even though I would really like to enter.

Accoring to your logic, it would also be unfair to make group giveaways if the group is not public or private giveaways if the link isn't publicly posted.
Simply respect the decission of the giveaway maker, because he has no obligation to make a giveaway AT ALL in the first place.

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I'm not trying to say that high end giveaways should be disabled, it is definitely up to their creator, this is just something to consider when creating a giveaway. Also I don't see how my post relates to group and private giveaways?

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Because like contributor giveaways, private and group giveaways are also only "a option to be considered".
Instead of making them private or for a group, the creator could just make them accessible for all.

It's the same as making a contributor giveaway - you are limiting the amount of people that can enter.

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You're just being an ass now, there's no need really. And no, the conditions don't compare.

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If someone makes a private group for "top contributors", invites all of them and then makes group giveaways, that's basicly the same as creating a contributor giveaway, don't you agree?
You simply save yourself the hassle creating the group and inviting everyone.

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I'm not against limiting who can enter, groups are great because you know your gift is going to a like-minded person. I just find that limiting a giveaway to those who can afford the games they want to be counter-intuitive.

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Copy & pasta:
If someone makes a private group for "top contributors" and then makes group giveaways, that's basicly the same as creating a contributor giveaway, don't you agree?

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Yes, then it would be the same, it seemed you were implying that what I said was against all groups not just top contributor ones

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No

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Unless you aim to personally award these guys with a golden medal

I don't see why there shouldn't be 'high end' cgs

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After 8 months you leeched here (thank God without any win), contributed zero value. When I say value I don't point only to creating giveaways but to contribute in discussions in forums. Now after 8 months you are restricted to enter approximately 10%-20% of all giveaways and now you have a reason to speak/comment/QQ - take a pick. I will continue to make only contributor giveaways because of people like you.

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I never saw a point to copy pasting an impersonal "thanks" into every giveaway I entered for it to be lost with all the others. But this is irrelevant, once again ad hominem rather than adding to the discussion in any meaningful way

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I am not referring strictly to "thanks" posts. Once again, I'm glad you can't join my giveaways.

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Maybe he/she doesn't want to chat with ignorants like you, who judge people based on giveaway stats?

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<3

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Or people blind like you? I'm talking about posts and not "thanks" posts. Here, specially for you: "When I say value I don't point only to creating giveaways but to contribute in discussions in forums." The part about contribution in discussions.

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still doesn't understand

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And I was talking about posts as well, thats why I wrote "chatting". Read carefully next time, I said nothing about "thanks". For now, my point in calling you an ignorant still stands.

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"who judge people based on giveaway stats?" which I do not. It is you who should read more carefully.

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"After 8 months you leeched here (thank God without any win), contributed zero value." I guess that I judge based on stats... oh no, wait, those are your words!

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Sadly the next sentence doesn't specify what I mean by value. Silly me. Have fun :)

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I believe that you are missing his point.

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People who can afford a gaming PC and internet access should not complain about poverty. It makes them look like idiots.

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Well said

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I have a Dell Inspiron 15 and I use my neighbors wifi (legal in NY). My bad.

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I'm a college student, I get just enough money to get by. The PC was from when I lived at home and the internet included with housing. Basically, no money to buy games T_T

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Don't normally step in in stuff like this, but saying "you have a pc and internet, stfu" basically is overkill. 5 years ago a pc and internet wasn't something everyone had. Now the vast majority of the US anyways have a pc and internet as something set up as "essential". Plus factor in there are students who have ramen money and that's about it, along with other situations, and well..... the theory is flawed, and is rather arrogant and presumptuous.

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Skyrim, Black Ops, Skyrim. You honestly gonna claim that PC's that can run those games are "essential"? If you were on a PC that could only run old flash games then yes, you'd have a point, but you're not, you're arguing that being able to run new games is essential and it's not.

Yes the world has changed and more and more people have PC's/consoles and play games. Poor people, actual poor people, don't tend to play the latest PC games on a decent rig though. And having no money for GAMES is not a sign poverty either. Not even by the most socialist standards.

Also, Trinity has 1500 games on his account.

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In our household, I own no computer. The ones that are here are used for video ediiting and assorted other work my gf does for people online. So in our household, yes it is. And who said anything about new computers at all? I was speaking computers in general. I never argued anything outside of a computer period. Most comps will run a decent amount of games these days. I have no money, and that's not a joke. My situation is strange though. I was speaking in GENERAL though. Having said that, Gaming PC's aren't that expensive anymore, on the low end. Hell most out of box comps from a store will run a bunch of games nowadays. And most people have internet. I fail to see where I said anything argueworthy here.

mutiple edits (If you were speaking to me, as I do have Skyrim. But not Black Ops. If not, my bad)

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I think contributor giveaways are awesome , if you're giving you'll most likely get some. Only thing is ... it should be separated somehow , like group and private giveaways are. Anyways ... you should be thanking that everyone that even makes giveaways for public . Cheers !

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The man has a point. I think the contributor giveaways that are lesser than or equal to $50 are great. I cant join em but I know some day I will. Then there's the giveaways with crazy high thresholds that only the elitists can afford. And its kind of insulting. Know what I'm saying? But on the other hand I do think that the 1% should be able to have their own giveaways that us serfs cant access (not joking) as long as it doesn't get saturated. Giving more than you get is the steam gifts spirit (don't bash me look at my stats). Equal return is not the intended idea of this web site.

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And I still fail to see the problem with $1.000 giveaways. Will I ever be able to join them? No. Does it mean they shouldn't be here? I leave the answer up to you.

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And most of the $1000 giveaways are Fortix, so in a way, that is more of a internal joke than a real thing.

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What I would suggest is making a feature where you can make non-contributer giveaway only. Would be even great if you could limit it by a value. Meaning you could put a value like 0,01 on it and anyone who has given away more than that amount could NOT enter.
I want to be able to giveaway those who are really in need, not to those circlejerks! ;)
And like you said, you should be able to limit and make a giveaway like you want it!

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haha an interesting idea, though I'm sure it would cause the shitstorm of a generation

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Well I would also like to limit people entering who doesn't give a shit about community ( ie gazillion enters, 0 comments, 0 giveaways ).

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That would propably be too exact, also not all have the time to be here posting thoughtful comments. Surely there are always leechers and abusers, but wouldn't it be worse to have thousands of entries, 0 comments and tens of wins.
Funniest part of this feature would be the part where you can combine these two features. Limiting the entries both ways. Let's say like letting members who have contributed only between 0,01 - 50 dollars. I'm sure this feature would be handy(read fun) in some community groups.

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OP is just sad because he cant leech Contributor Giveaways. He cant even join 0.01$ ones :3. I dont have money too but i were able to give away games i got free from the gift pile last holiday sale. He is just a leecher :3

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Well congratulations to you. You want a cookie?

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Sure :3

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You meanie ;_;

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I share with you my gummy bears.

But hurry, they are cannibals

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It was meant to be sarcasm but ok here ya go!

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I hate to say it, OP, but most of the time people who don't create give-a-ways do so because of selfishness. Not because they can't.

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I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Posts proposing to raise points and lower the points. I watched discusssions about "thanks" buttons. All those posts will be lost in time... like tears in rain...

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Meh. Doesn't fit the theme, I see nothing Blade Runnerish about this at all!

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I've seen a celestial body cross the sun this week, it was awesome.

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Because there isn't.

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I dont see this as a problem. Every gifter has his/her own method of doing giveaways. Whether its a public one with many announcements to the private ones that have very limited access. With contributor givaways, the gifter can make a giveaway that is not meant for those who have not contributed, and thus weed out leechers. So, in other words, the gifter gives the game to someone who he/she things deserves the game in a random method that may or may not increase your chances.

TL;DR
I don't think you should worry about contributor giveaways. Its not like its an impossible puzzle.

cough cough
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Why not add a way to filter the giveaways? What i mean by this is a way for people to set what they see to say contributer only or free only. Less bitching that way (hopefully).

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There already is.

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Need moar choices. Do you play inverted controls?

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Really? Where?

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There's a browser addon that does exactly that, among other things.

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Hold on guys, I need to grab some popcorn.

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ACK SHEPARD! THE BAD MEMORYS ARE FLOODING BACK!

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In Hong Kong, we have peanuts instead

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So much hatred :(

Seriously people, just because someone doesn't give away a lot of games, or spend a lot of time on the forums, it doesn't give you all the right to flame them like this.

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Wasn't that always the case on this forum? I'm guessing displaying stats was meant to give credibility to contributors, but instead, it became a way to determine who's opinions to take seriously and who's not.

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I understand what you mean but you do realize people giveaway games when they are on sale for like 4 bucks and they show up for 20 - 30 bucks (maybe more) on their account, so in actuality they probably have spent 15 dollars in giveaways but their account shows 80 or more.

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Yes it isn't about being costy indeed. However everyone doesn't have the chance to contribute due being too young or not being able to have a credit card. It is rather sad really, specially as many get marked as a leecher or something else similiar so easily.

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Leechers aren't people labeled as people who don't give, notice that most people that doesn't do giveaways also barely have any comments so they are a leech. A leech is someone who doesn't contribute, rather it be in the forums or with giveaways.

It's one thing when you can't afford to do giveaways, it's another when you just plain don't contribute.

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+1

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That's a great definition. Could have said it any better.

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