I've collected a number of games that I've never gotten around to playing. Some of them I've started and never got very far, some of them are new (to me), either from a few wins here or from all the money I've given to Fanatic over the past several months since joining, or even from Epic Games free game of the week. I'm thinking I might do a Blind Let's Play stream. I'm going to play the games (eventually) anyway, why not share the fun?

That leads me to the point of this Discussion:

  1. Does anybody have any suggestions on how to get started? For example, should I stream on Twitch, or YouTube, or Facebook, or any of a number of other places?
  2. Should I save videos of the streams, and if so how and where? For example, if I stream to Twitch, how do I record it, and do I upload the video to YouTube?
  3. Which games should I play? Old games nobody these days are probably familiar with (an old DOS game called Shattered Steel is top of this list)? Turn-based RPGs that I can just sit back and relax while playing so I can interact with chat (Aveyond series, Baldur's Gate series, Icewind Dale, etc)? More modern games like Borderlands series or X series? The one type of game I do NOT want to play are ones I call "twitchy", multiplayer games where a single second of response time means the difference between win and lose, such as Fortnite or Call of Duty. Similarly, I'm not really interested in streaming MMOs, although I don't mind playing them occasionally... I just want whatever I'm doing to have a start and an end.
  4. Any suggestions for "extra" software to get? For example, I saw one Twitch streamer who had something or other going on at the bottom of his screen. Each viewer was able to make a little avatar thing, and they would walk around on the screen, and periodically there would be a sort of free-for-all deathmatch between all the little avatars. I have no idea what that was but I thought that was cool, so I'm wondering if anybody knows what that was, and if there's any other ways to get viewers to be able to interact with the stream (I'm not looking for the whole "the stream viewers control what actions I take in the game" thing that seemed to be popular for a while).
  5. Also, can I get away with not showing my face? I've always been camera shy. I do have a webcam I can install if I have to, but it's currently not even in the same room as my computer and I'd rather not have to dig it out if I don't have to. Even if I did, nobody would really be interested in my face. They would be coming for the stream, not to stare at my ugly mug.

(Edit: Changed list from dots to numbers to make answering easier... I hope)

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Ok so I'm in no way a streamer, but I do am a viewer! So, while not all, I can answer some of your questions.
1)-2)Either Twitch or Youtube. Both automatically save your streams, and I think you can reupload a Twitch stream as a YT video (or at least you could). I have no idea how streaming on Facebook would work, so I can't say anything about it. While being a Steam fanboy, streaming on it... it's not the best. I'd avoid it, due to streams being laggy or not letting people in, chat bugging... I've seen it work, but I always personally had a bad experience with it. Also Steam doesn't allow you to save your streams (AFAIK).
3)I know it's what everyone says, but play something YOU like. IMO, it's the most important thing. Because you can feel when a streamer is playing just to stream the game instead of having fun with it. I'd avoid maybe games that require your attention for long periods of time (EG: FPS games), since you won't really be able to look at the chat... Oh yeah the chat. I'm kinda going off-topic, but mind the chat. Like, you're the star here, you're the one streaming, but people super-like it when you read their messages and answer to their questions. Of course, it depends on what kind of streams you wanna do, but, like, saying "hi" back to who says it to you always makes the difference.
4)I believe they are (or at least were) called Twitch Extensions. If you're planning to do "non-gaming" streams too (EG: just chatting, karaoke, drawing, reviwes, basically everything but gaming) they're a fun addition. And then there's the one that plays funny sound effects when you type in the command. That one is ALWAYS funny (to my smooth brain, at least!). I think it is (or was) called Sound Alerts.
5)No camera is fine. Just talk constantly/regularly, so people know you're there. Even if no one is watching, because if someone were to join and didn't saw nor ear you, it would be almost like you weren't there. So yeah, talk a lot! (There's also that new V-Tuber avatar thingy but I have no idea what it is or how it works. Sorry)

I don't know how useful I was, if I even was at all... But I hope you got some of the answers you were looking for. And be sure to let me know when you start streaming, I'd love to check you out! (Except if you stream at, like, 3AM. My beauty sleep comes first, sorry).
Good luck and, most importantly, have fun!

3 years ago
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I hope I'll get answers from several people... but yours do help. Thank you. Also, I didn't even know about Twitch Extensions. I've never streamed before, I've only seen a few people who did and thought that looked fun... but the interactive avatars thing I mentioned, the streamer said he bought it from Steam ... but I didn't catch the name of the program. I just thought it was cool to have something for the audience to do besides talk to each other and occasionally the streamer. I don't necessarily need that specific program, but anything the audience can interact with beyond just chatting would be great.

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I think you're talking about Stream Avatars https://store.steampowered.com/app/665300/Stream_Avatars/
It allows to customize avats packs (either by making your own or using community ones), and make them do several things, such as jumping around the screen, do little rpg-esque fights... give it a look.

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That looks like the one I saw. Thank you!

3 years ago
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Think I can help answering your questions :)

  1. I'd always prefer Twitch over youtube, but youtube gaming grown rapidly in last few years so it maybe worth streaming on both if you can handle it.

  2. By default on twitch your streams are saved for 30 days until you decide to keep them or not.

  3. There are few factors here, first depends on what kind of audience you want to build up, if you play competative games play them ONLY if you are good at it, viewers want to watch skill not sucking at it. Most important do not stick at one or two games, then your viewers will be only people who play that game and channel won't grow. NEVER play brand new AAA or hot games that everyone streams, your chance of getting new viewers is close to 0, unless you get Early access to a game that has not been released. Also the game you stream must be fun to you, if you don't enjoy it nor the viewers will.

  4. Extra software and extra hardware! Firstly 2nd monitor is a must, or you will have a lot of trouble interacting with chat, also important is good mic, be ready to spend at least 100$ for beginner mic (Blue Snowball, Blue Yeti or Audio-Technica AT2020.) Optional I'd suggesting getting a stream deck that will bring up your stream quality and fun on next level.
    As for softwares all you need to start is Streamlabs OBS it's easy to understand and they have everything you need. Optional you said you are shy for camera, so maybe FaceRig is the thing for you.

Some more tips: Always talk talk talk, practice in front of the mirror talking to yourself, because that you will do when there are no viewers on stream. First 10 seconds are most important when someone joins your channel, and if they see you not talking gets impression of boring and they will leave. I can't explain how much talking is important :)
Streaming time,, stream as often as you can best would be 5 or even 7 days a week with more hours the better. And please always have in mind that you should do this for fun not the money or the benefits of it. It even may take a year before your channel start paying of maybe not even then it all depends on you :)

If you have any specific questions feel free to add me and we can talk, I've been streaming for few years and work on few channels as moderator :)

3 years ago
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Always talk talk talk

Exactly - I second every suggestion about getting good mic.. And definitely plan on imporving camera and lights.
But most of all - talking, simply playing through a game is pointless, everyone can do that. While there will be those who don't want, can't or whatever reason there might be will watch it solely for the game, but the personality is what brings the viewers in. It's in what you add to the gameplay.

I'm not a streamer, but I do work with cameras, lights, sounding and filming people in general.

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By default on twitch your streams are saved for 30 days until you decide to keep them or not.

This is wrong. Its either 14 or 60 days depending your account (normal + affiliate = 14; partner, prime, turbo = 60 days).

And honestly I kinda disagree with some of what you said

Firstly 2nd monitor is a must, or you will have a lot of trouble interacting with chat

While 2nd monitor is nice, you can get away with using a phone/tablet/laptop to read chat off.

also important is good mic, be ready to spend at least 100$ for beginner mic

First part is 100% right, 2nd part is not. You can get away with cheaper mics.

Optional I'd suggesting getting a stream deck that will bring up your stream quality and fun on next level.

If you are just gonna start streaming stream deck is probably a waste of money, you can set stuff on shortcuts on your keyboard if you need them.

I guess what kinda rubs me wrong here is suggesting you need to spend a bunch of money to start streaming. Work with what you got and start improving over time as needed.

The rest I do 100% agree with (maybe except the stream as much as you can, you WILL burn out doing that sooner or later).

I guess I would also add don't stream games your PC can't handle streaming, watching slideshows is not an pleasant experience.

3 years ago
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Could be, back in my day was 30 guess they changed some things in meantime :)
And monitor is a must, trust me I tried with tablet... it's struggle :) You have delay, battery due the size you will constantly need to move head or eyes away from the monitor... Yes technically he can do it but it's struggle.
I wrote bare minimums if he want to go in to streaming somewhere professionally , didn't even mention greenscreen, cameras, lights..

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I must admit, I always had multiple monitors so I have never actually had to experience it myself, but I honestly don't see how any of the things you mention are an issue?
There should be no delay, the chat should pop up at the same time on your 2nd monitor than it would on a tablet.
For the battery just plug it into the charger when you use it.
And you have to look away from your main monitor when reading of a 2nd monitor as well? All you need to do is position the tablet in a way it is comfortable to look at.

But as I said, I never got to experience it myself, so I might be missing something.

He never said anything about streaming professionally tho? So it seems quite silly to me to recommend a bunch of equipment that he might not even need. And might turn out that streaming is not even something for him and wasted a bunch of money for no reason.

3 years ago
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You said that right, not everyone have multiple monitors, and all I wrote I wrote from personal experience, sadly yes you need bunch of money if you expect to provide high quality content, Everyone who goes in to streaming are expecting something in return (fame? money?), if they say they don't, and want to stream for their own fun, they are lying :)

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Everyone who goes in to streaming are expecting something in return (fame? money?), if they say they don't, and want to stream for their own fun, they are lying :)

No, but I am not even gonna waste my time trying to argue that.

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You are sensible and I appreciate it.

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