Question about Frozen Synapse Prime GAs

You can only create a one copy giveaway as you can't guarantee you will get the second copy.

Edit: Unless you start with multiple keys/gifts.

I'd say yes, It's the same game, regardless of how you got it.

That said, despite his request, you can't require people to give you the second free copy back.

If you have a copy that will come with a bonus, it can only count as one giveaway.

The game is the same regardless of how many bonus copies it comes with upon activation. You also don't have to send the bonus copies back. If you wish to follow the giveaway creators request it's up to you. You can even do a giveaway yourself with the bonus copy.

i'd ask the creator if that's fine with him, it's only fair since he gave away the game.

not that it makes a biug difference since it's bundled, 4.25cv.

Be careful with the copy because could be region restricted. Example, if you activate the game in SA, your copy cant be activated in USA or Europe, but if you activate the copy in USA or Europe, the copy hasn't region restriction.

If you create a giveaway you need to give a game which is giveaway for. It doesn't matter if it is duo pack or 4-pack, or how many bonuses are included. If you give a correct game - it's fine. The rest is up to you.

This is tricky, as the winner could demand a second copy, as it' could be seen as a package so the person who gave it away only sent half of it, if they only sent one.

On the other hand the second copy could be seen as a bonus that comes with the basegame. So it's like giving away a weird directors cut edition that isn't sold on steam, but comes with a bonus dlc or something.

Nevertheless, I'm pretty sure the gifter can't demand someone to give back the second copy - but making a giveaway or just leaving the second copy to rot in the inventory the winner's inventory would be a dickmove, too, in my opinion.

The best answer could be provided by asking support, how they handled these cases in the past.

Yes, because the store page is for the game and not a double-pack. You can mention in the description if it is the bonus game or a double pack, but you are not required to send the double-pack. Goes for any game that gives a bonus copy (and is not yet on the free game list).

Alright thank you all. Became a lot more clear on what the opinions are in those cases :)

Interesting question/case...
When you create a giveaway and select Frozen Synapse Prime it states

Frozen Synapse Prime
http://store.steampowered.com/app/328600/

So it's clearly a giveaway only for the app and not for a package. So the giveaway creator just has to make sure the giveaway leads to an activated copy of that app on the winners library.
When you purchase the game from the store you in fact purchase a package (http://store.steampowered.com/sub/52894/). This package grants a gift upon activation. So the giveaway creator can ask for people to return the extra copy. But this would actually work like a special rule which isn't allowed (cannot be enforced anymore). So the GA creator cannot do anything if the copy isn't returned.

Now about the CV:
This could easily be seen as constant Steam API failure. Similar to sale times it happens to other games that appear in packages and where the steam API returns the price of a package.
The CV is always calculated according to Steam API feedback. So there are giveaways that require 0P or require 100P even though the game cost only 20$. The CV is actually the same.

If you actually want to know if it's fair or not, that's another question ;)

Another thing to add as well. You could purchase a key from another website and it may only state that it's a key for Frozen Synapse Prime. Many sites including Indiegala and Bundlestars don't always mention that the edition of a game you are actually getting is the one with extras etc.

Have that game in my inventory as well, and had the exact same doubts about giving it away.

@Snapper

Here's how it's been detailed to work:
(For packages that don't have a one copy version for sale but only a generate-free-copy 2-pack base version- for games that do have one-copy versions, if you post for a 2-pack but only provide one game,that's obviously not acceptable.)

1: When your giveaway ends, your winner needs to receive one, fully functional working steam copy of the game in question. Whether that's a gift copy, a two-pack, or even the game with extras thrown in, it doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is that they get the one copy of the game- that the game listed shows up in their library after the giveaway ends.

In the case of 2-packs (where no 1-copy purchase is available), this means, YES, you can turn around and repost the second copy back as a giveaway- though, note, it's considered rude not to note that it IS a gift copy, since some people specifically only want to win 2-packs, so they can play with a friend/partner/family member.

2: (AFAIK:)
You may ASK for the second copy to be returned to you, if you put up a 2-pack, but there is NO obligation to do so. Rather, the reason 2-packs are treated so casually is because there's no potential for CV abuse- the original creator can't post the same game twice, due to one copy having to be redeemed to a Steam account.
At the point that any creator tries to strongarm a return of a copy, that's when they're trying to exploit the CV system- getting CV for posting the game twice [if that's not their aim, they could have redeemed a single copy themself to begin with].
Morever, they've given you a single activation key- at that point, the product is yours, so if you choose to give the second copy back, that's you being obliging or generous, not anything you necessarily have to do.

As a legitimate example of why someone'd want to ask for a copy back, if I wanted to put up a ROW 2-pack rather than have my NZ friend activate the game first, to avoid any issues with the second copy being region-restricted, that'd be something I could do.
But, as far as I'm aware, there's no assurance that I'd actually get that second gift copy back.