Taken off the Steam store during a summer sale, ouch.
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So along that line of thinking Colt, Winchester, and all other firearms manufactures had better have their upcoming weapon designs approved by Actisucks lawyers before they go into production.
Total HOGWASH!!!
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Real law though. If you don't believe, here is an actual story how a patent was denied to be original because of a Donald Duck comic: http://www.iusmentis.com/patents/priorart/donaldduck/
So yes, if Colt wanted to make a weapon that looks like something Activision used in CoD, they'd have to license the real-world gun from a video game company.
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I remembered that the planned successor of Prelude was Guardians of Orion, a co-op top down shooter. So just how did it change name and become another FPS?
Regarding this take down, Activision is not entirely in the wrong if they actually created the gun models in BO3 from scratch. Though it's a total jerk move if they don't give any warnings to the dev, if the information they posted on the Community could be trusted
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It can switch between FPS, third-person, and top down. I'm pretty sure, at least, I haven't played it for a bit, though.
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Not sure why the name was changed, but a first-person mode was requested again and again by users right from the point that the (failed) kickstarter was announced. Eventually it was added.
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And players are now free to choose between the 3 mode as Awesome said? Thanks for clearing it up, as I haven't played the current iteration yet lol.
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Last time I played it you could, haha. The game has certainly changed a lot since I first tried it, so at least they do the early access part right.
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So I go to the story, I click the link to the store page, it loads, I put it in cart and check out. Am I missing something?
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That makes sense. I didn't completely check out, Prelude is a horrible game I wouldn't want another copy of. The one that was pulled doesn't look much better. Oh well, thanks for clearing that up for me.
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that is just appalling. I did think that if the developers claims here about not being informed are true then Valve could have handled the situation better, but now I'm rethinking it as it seems it's far from the first time such an accusation has been made
really hope the shitty treatment of staff results in some lawsuit or something too, and a ton of negative publicity for them if it's true
it's a pity because the game did look so promising and seemed like a project well worth supporting
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"One notable employee blacked out from being overworked while another had to purchase his own plane tickets to support David."
That sentence alone leads me to believe the author doesn't know too much or have common sense... It was obviously the employees' choice if they did it...
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Although that is true, they might have done it in fear of losing their job. You don't know their situation, maybe they needed the money for it badly and couldn't afford to lose the job. I know I wouldn't want to work there, but some people might not have much of a choice.
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im super confused... wasnt orion that top down third person twinstick shooter game? the guns are too small to even see...
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There is a lot of evidence and a history of that company stealing assets so I don't see activision in the wrong on this
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Which ORION actually? I can still put it in the cart right now it seems.
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I'm not a huge Activision fan or anything (nor do I have anything against them) but it seems pretty clear they have a valid claim here. I'm sure they submitted the claim, it was reviewed and approved.
This isn't YouTube, after all :)
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There's no reviews for DMCA, either Steam takes it down asap or take responsibility for it. If devs think they're not at violation they'd fill Counter-Claim and Activision would've to take it to court.
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It looks like Activision's claim is valid
This sums up: https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/4q62xb/activision_removed_a_game_from_steam_via_dmca/d4qky1r
Hope they get their things straight and fix the mess.
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+1
the big dogs got their balls busted ... that
game is a goner i'd guess until its changed
https://abload.de/img/ahaha3neuod.png
http://i.imgur.com/ZQeBNGs.png
https://imgur.com/ZQeBNGs
http://imgur.com/lxGMPkh
http://i.imgur.com/Nl1m8.jpg
http://imgur.com/a/O5Fj4
http://i.imgur.com/ZQeBNGs.png
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I have the game in my library so have to play it if I can though
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I'd say until someone rips both models and compare their meshes vertex to vertex we really shouldn't scream "fuckers" at anyone.
Even if it looks like copy-paste-change-details work.
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Valve is just happy panicked people are rushing to buy a game now they wouldn't play anyway.
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Now remove PAYDAY 2, because it had AK47, and I saw this weapon in other games!
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Ahh, but did they pa ythe licensing rights to use the weapon image in game. :)
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Most likely. They have to. When EA decided to turn Battlefield futuristic, this was one of the reasons:
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/191864/EA_doesnt_want_to_pay_gun_manufacturers_anymore.php
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Huh. Indeed. Whoops. ^^'
They should though. At least when I saw a reel on how some FPS was made in the early 2000s (or late 90s…? I want to say it was Soldier of Fortune, but maybe that was the game where they really wanted to use voxel graphics, despite current industry trends?), they even mentioned that they had to get into contact with all the manufacturers, this is why their weapons look like the real versions (well, for that time).
Usually there is another way, when the manufacturer contacts the dev/publisher and they put their products in the game as classic product placement. EA was large on that with their sports games line-up.
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Saw that game 3times during summer sale just didn't buy because of Directx 11.0 xD damn that was cute little cheap game probably 1 BO 3 or AW is 49-50 Orion :'c .let people make money Actiiiiiiiiii :'c
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I still have it for sale on Steam. I just checked.
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oorrrr do you see the orion prelude game and not 'orion'.
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Check out this one:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/407840
You're seeing Orion: Prelude in the store.
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If you have the game in your library you can download it
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Now they want gamers to give them money for their suffering
http://steamcommunity.com/app/104900/discussions/0/358415738204928442/
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And thanks to that they lost all sort of sympathy from me ...
Way to exploit your community...
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The game is promising, but the devs rubbed me the wrong way. They seem to empty their emotions, their frustrations about the situation in their posts towards the community. Pointing fingers everywhere, others are responsible, not them. That is not very professional. It gives the clear impression of not being able to take a step back and try to handle the situation as best as they can.
They don't even consider that maybe they should change the gun models somewhat. Remove what is too similar. And just go over the whole game, look if there are things too much inspired (or copied) by existing franchises or something. They are just too busy defending themselves that they do not even consider their own conduct =/
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Even the Boba Fett knock-off doesn't know what's going on anymore
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I wonder how many guns Call of Duty made that were based on real copyrighted designs ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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AFAIK there was court case about that, you can use guns design all you want - something like designs are art and you can imitate art.
Difference is, it looks like Orion didn't imitate CoD, they took CoD weapon models (or at least parts of them) and just painted them in different colors - a bit like stealing a statue and throwing paint on it.
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Wasn't really making an arguing in favor of the ORION creator... The holosight and the rifle do seem to be heavily based on the one from BOPs3, and they should resolve that. An argument in their favor would go along the lines of pointing out the creator(s) did offer to remove the infringing material but the offer was turned down. That would show that Acti just wanted to beat their d*cks a bit and not resolve the issue.
TL;DR Orion creator made mistake, Activision isn't letting them fix it.
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There's also screens showing Orion's weapon to be allegedly put together from bunch of CoD's weapons part.
Seeing how much developer goes with whole issue and actually is known to be a thief who takes stuff from other mods etc., I think Activision just decided to not screw around and show them that thievery ends bad (aka no Steam sales...).
Which would make Activision a good guy, vigilante style... Scary thought :P
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Many are complaining about Activision not giving them a heads up before doing this but with the past history that this developer has they aren't owed a damn thing. They are thieves and after reading through some of the comments in this thread about past issues with them there are obviously other issues going on too. I have no sympathy for them at all and I'm not gonna hate on Activision for this one bit.
Threatening a lawsuit, whining about missing out on the biggest sale of the year, and then begging for money isn't helping their cause either.
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Activision's was valid. I know you(we) hate them, but that doesn't mean they don't have rights.
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This image: http://imgur.com/ChA57cI is by far the best part. Dev claims he was hacked from Russia, his evidence is an IP address that starts with 192.168.x.x. There are clumsy criminals and there is the category who is so fucking stupid covering their own tracks, you almost feel sorry for them.
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kek they laid off my brother after they released COD:AW
I already hate them
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-- Update: http://steamcommunity.com/games/407840/announcements/detail/814405855450220211 ---
So apparently Activision has removed ORION from Steam. This was done via a DMCA takedown request stating:
“on behalf of Activision, who alleges that the game Orion uses weapon art content from Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 and Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare. The weapon art in question includes the M8A7 rifle, the Haymaker rifle, and the Bal-27 rifle."
Continued: http://steamcommunity.com/games/104900/announcements/detail/834671877728578774
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/4q62xb/activision_removed_a_game_from_steam_via_dmca/
Facedesk
As if you've never needed more reasons to dislike Activision.
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