So I've been a member of this great community for about 6 months now, I've given away 13 games and won 3.

I mean I have won 3 times. I have entered 1,053 giveaways and won three times, so that's like winning 1 out of every 317 giveaways I've entered.

Honestly, that's not really what has been bugging me though. I come here almost every day at least once a day, with the exception of the last week or so since it's summer and I've been out doing things lately, but I enter as many giveaways as possible every time I come here.

I know people may say I have no right to be upset considering this is a free platform and all but honestly I'm pretty sure it isn't. I say this because the 3 giveaways that I have won, were literally all within a week or two of when I was giving things away. It has been 4 months since I've given anything away, and 4 months since I've won anything. It has however been 12 minutes since I have entered anything, and 4 months ago, I had only entered maybe 150 giveaways, so basically this site seems to be one of the things I despise most when it comes to video games, pay to win.

I'm not saying that I will stop coming here, and entering giveaways, but I can pretty much guarantee that I probably won't be coming here to give things away, but that's just me.

Anyone feel similar? Different? Bored? Hungry?


Edit: I really don't care about winning I just wanted people to talk to me, and it seems to have worked.
Even if it's just a bunch of people telling me to quit whining, it's still people talking to me.
I'm lonely. :(

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If you expect games as a reward when you've given away something then you're in the wrong place.

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My first win was at around 1200, I would have been jealous of you back then.

Also, how nice of you to give away a free game (Two Worlds: Epic Edition) under a different slot (Two Worlds). Very generous of you.

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I didn't know there was a difference honestly. :/
And I'm not sure which one it was, I got it in a bundle.

9 years ago
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The basic edition hasn't been around in forever. Even the winner has Epic Edition.

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Hate to break it to you but your chances might be a lot more slim after this thread :/

9 years ago
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Yeah, I don't ever win anything as it is so not sure how much worse it could get. :p

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he meant to be BL by people

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It stands for blacklist.

people specifically not allowing me to enter their giveaways

Yes, that is what it does.
Rerolls, on the other hand, can only be done if you provide a valid reason to support

9 years ago
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Haha I din't think anyone caught that comment before I realized what BL stood for. Now I'm embarrassed.

9 years ago
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I have no idea what you're talking about.
Pay to win ? This site is totally random.
No one is forcing you to give away stuff if you don't want to. There are people who won dozens of games and didn't give a single game.

9 years ago
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Another entitled American giving the rest of us a bad reputation.

9 years ago
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Pfft. Not all Americans are bad. DON'T MAKE ME FEEL LIKE I AM A BAD PERSON, NOW!! Lol :p

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Exceptions can be made :P

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Am I an exception? :D

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From your history on steamgifts, YES! :P

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Same probably can't be said about me.
Oh well.
Edit: You've been blacklisted.

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Thanks!

9 years ago
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I meant that OP (In this case, pomarf) was Blacklisted, not you, Tethnic

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Ah ok :)

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Why not? You've still given a bit.

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Woo! Although, I feel bad it's been a while since I've gave away anything. I won't for a while, either. (Personal issues) So I feel bad, but I hope I can start giving away more soon.

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You don't need to feel bad for that matter :)

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I still do :p

9 years ago
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I know, just some are really clueless

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No doubt about that. And I wouldn't doubt it if someone said that Americans have the highest rate of greed compared to the rest of the world :p

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Well I wouldn't doubt it, it seems that people in other countries that "want to make something make their lives" tend to pair that with wanting to go to America, I just feel bad that they don't know that there is nothing here that would increase someones chances of making it big. Honestly most famous people aren't from America from what I've noticed, I've just had the misfortune of being born here rather than somewhere like the UK or Canada.

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Bad girl sounds better ;)

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I'm sure it does xp

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An american calling people entitled americans?
Now that's a new one....

http://www.exoduscommunity.com/user/7-wykydvamp/

9 years ago
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Wow you can Google, want a cookie?

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Obviously when you stated "the rest of us" his powers of deduction failed him. :(

9 years ago
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Ya know I can edit my posts too. :3

9 years ago
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i want a cookie.
you know, once you start to BL people it becomes so easy

9 years ago
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Oh wow, blacklist I feel stupid. xD took me a minute.

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:). don't be.

since you seem to be nice (didn't black listed, still don't like to BL). you should understand something:
the chances for each GA is based ONLY on the number of people entered.
you want higher chances? GA some more games, till you reach a higher lvl and enter GA with less people.

since you have proven your ability to google (wink wink) search statistics in SG and you will find some answers.
not P2W. if you don't feel like giving, don't. some people don't like leechers (or whatever). their problem, not yours.

got my drift?

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Yeahh, I gotcha, I'm glad that you can see that I am actually a nice person, and I'd say the same about you. :3

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Great reply, showws some compassion.

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:)

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My first giveaway was after about 1k entries. Its all RNG. Gifting games doesnt guarantee that you will win. I mean, there are plenty of leechers who dont give a single game and are in the double digits of wins.

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can you link an example?
I haven't seen any of those

9 years ago
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I won a game before I gifted one (Which was luckily a few days after I joined) It's about luck, you should know this after 6 months. This thread is no better than all of the "Why can't I win?" threads.

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not true.
it is written more eloquently and it feels like he honestly care.
didn't bother to read the FAQ or some other stuff before ;)

9 years ago
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What do you mean, exactly?

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well, most topics of this kind are just one line of the type:
" is this site a scam"
"why can't i win"
"can i increase my chances"

he ranted. and did it using proper English (as far as a non native speaker can detect ;) )

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Ah. Yeah xD

9 years ago
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If you expect rewards for giving games away you're on wrong site.

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I haven't gave anything away before first win because I didn't believe that somebody can really give away sometimes expensive games. Now I gave away only one game more than I won and probably when I will win I will do another GA.
But when you expecting something from giving you miss point of giving. If you want something for something try exchange.

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ya. bored n hungry. gonna get some food.

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Right on.

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if you really want something back you should canvass & invest in trade section instead of g/as.

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Meh, I think I just want to spend money on games for myself from now on.

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Can you get me some popcorn please ?

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yup.it might look little weird though.being blue n heart shaped n all

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it's ok, ecstasy is fun too

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If it was pay to win, why are there so many lvl's 0 with a lot of wins. It is so random. Just Keep enterering.

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This :p There are plenty of people win a massive win amount and barely anything given away :p

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I hate seeing these "wah wah" posts, I've been with this site for almost a month and I didn't win anything until I was 5 months in. Not once did I bitch about it or feel slighted, that's not what this community is about (in my mind).There's some pretty cool people here if you stop thinking about win/lose and just have fun.

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But you gotta admit it was a pretty decent way to get people to talk to me. :(
I honestly don't really care much about winning or losing, I've got more games than I know what to do with, I'm just lonely.

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May I suggest female company if you are feeling lonely? I'm sure you can find suitable escorts in your local vicinity.

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Well, I didn't think of that. But I'm pretty sure that's illegal here.

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i gathered that, these posts are not the best way for that because you will be BL from alot of people. Just make a post about something you like or knw a bit about and then they will come "post it and they will come" :-P

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Oh look, it's this thread again. Fun fact, the human brain is so wired to detect patterns that it will also see them where there are none. That's why cherry-picking data points is such an effective way to convince people to believe in utter lies. For reference, I've had a week where I won 4 games, in a period where I didn't have anything to give away.

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I can't be arsed reading the whole thread so what I'm about to say may well have been said already...anyway...

There's definitely no P2W going on here, most of my wins have happened at times when I don't have GAs going of my own, so there's that...

Also, I'll be man enough to admit that I do get a little disappointed when I don't win certain GAs, mostly Wishlisted games of course but there have been a few non-WL games that I feel I just HAVE to enter GAs for them (like Muffin Knight) and I can't help but feel a slight twinge of disappointment when they pass and I don't win...mostly though, the GAs I enter are Because Potato GAs, just to spend my points. That doesn't mean I want those games less, it just means it doesn't bother me if I don't win them...yet...

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3 wins in 1k entries is actually pretty good! Most people end up seeing their first win after about 1k entries. Its all about luck and probabilities.

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+1

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Edit: you can just make a topic about potato. people love to talk about that in this place.
and you get to be WL because POTATO! :D

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It's not really pay to win, but you do have better chances if you give games becasue you increase in level and there are fewer entries. Or join a group and have to give at least one game per month.

But seriously, are you that cheap that you can't buy a bundle and give away some games? Especially the ones on Daily Indie Game where if you beat the average you get a 2nd bundle free.

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Best way to spend your time in steamgifts is enjoying. Reading interesting stuff, sharing your thoughts with the people, meeting e-friends, posting cat gifs... Giveaways are a succulent incentive, but not the only way to enjoy steamgifts. It took me time to realize that. And damn, I now spend too much time in this forum xd

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This site no totes scam. Me give 2 much and site no give. Me make music choochoo and site give me gifts.

Site secretly like choochoo. Me make choochoo 2 more oh. You make choochoo 2; totes works.

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Don't worry it is not pay to win. The results and RNG game is legit.. trust me I know. Same story as you. Only maybe a little bit more different-er.

Think of this place as basically like a casino for games.. you win some you lose some.. the only good difference is you can't lose money unless you opt to buy or pay for some games and give it out for free. But that is on you.

Also what casino do you know of that hands out free quarters to play the games every now and then even if you keep losing some ;)

Yeah and like some others have said.. root yourself as much as you can into if you want into enjoying the site and the community such as this forum and this forum post.. and get to know others maybe talk chat, share some stories or play some games even if you both have the same game in your library.

All in all, I wish you luck and all the best and may the RNG Gods shine their blessings upon us.. All Hail the RNG Gods. Amen.

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I've been here for over a month and I've won nothing at all... I even bought this cv6 thing because I heard it's a pay to win and I still never win!???? I must be paying the wrong person!!!1 Can you guys tell me who you payed to win games?!/ PLISSSSSSS

/sarcasm

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I didnt win a game for an entire year. I was completely okay with that, the site was still cool and fun. Well, that's my story thanks for reading.

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Winning once every 350 entries is actually pretty much perfect odds. Look at your wins, most have around 300-400 entries. Look at your giveaways, same kind of numbers.
If you take that to estimate that the majority of public giveaways get around that many entries, it means on average you would need to enter that many times to win once.

Or, to put it simply, 1/350 chance of winning.

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Giving away does not improve your chances in the slightest, it's pure coincidence if you've won more when you've given.

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