https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTqV-U6HzNQ
Georgia wishes to be part of the glorious EU to escape Russian clutches.
I say let Georgia join so we can have this doggy as EU citizen too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvZMhNCVyKM
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Panzerhaubitze 2000 howitzers placed at disposal of Ukrainian Armed Forces – Reznikov
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/840673.html
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/howitzers-arrive-ukraine-first-pledged-weapons-package-germany-2022-06-21/
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Liver sausage found 2000 howitzers. Probably all the museums have been raked to zero. They don't send new stuff anyway.
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it doesn't need to be brand-new. it just needs a ton of ammo to produce that sweet cargo 200.
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Well, as long as it's abroad, it's a force, and as soon as it's on the territory of Ukraine, it's a goal and future scrap metal. Do not forget about ammunition, due to the fact that the previously available guns in Ukraine consumed a 152mm shell, and NATO has a standard in the form of 155 mm and a shell from 152 is not suitable.
Logistics is our everything, as long as there are no shells, then this is useless scrap metal, if there are shells, then they can already do something, but if they give.
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Lol, I know that you don't mind being a clown but maybe you should sometimes try to google before you comment.
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Well, they called him that, he didn't say against it, so he admitted it, now they write about him that way, I don't even remember his name, but as soon as the Liver Sausage, it immediately becomes clear that it's about the German chancellor.
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why would he say anything aginst it? stuff like this is below kindergarten level, there is really no need to even acknowlege such a statement. Only people like Wladimir Pelmenchik Putin probably find this funny. and apparently you.
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Try to express it like that, let's see the reaction. Moreover, it should be expressed not on the forum, but through the media.
Moreover, everyone was waiting for a reaction to this statement, since it was said publicly and the person who cannot say his opinion, he can only say the opinion of the state (the ambassador, if he did not understand), there was only one representative who began to say something, and so it should have been at a minimum as a summoning of the ambassador and handing over he needs notes. That's when they realized that the MFA was working.
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I don't have the slightest idea on what the shit you're on about. Maybe if you concentrated on writing less walls of confusing text and instead write short understandable sentences that make any sense I could follow your conversation.
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You understood, you just didn't want to accept it.
And it is not always possible to say everything in a short sentence, you can often miss the necessary details.
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I honestly did not, but thanks for trying. Have a good day.
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The amazing part is that besides your crazy talk you somehow also thought that this was about your boring liver sausage insults.
But actually I laughed because you didn't get that 2000 is part of the howitzers name and not the amount of units sent.
And how clueless and clownish your are was also displayed by your misjudgment of the weapon system's abilities, which is considered world class in multiple artillery categories.
So yeah, as usual you performed providing zero knowledge, zero facts but plenty of incomprehensible mumbo jumbo.
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And what to say about her. There is nothing to shoot without ammunition. Does she not drive without diesel fuel or can she drive in the air? The description is in German or in English, which requires knowledgeable staff, but at the same time the experience of using Javelin showed it (there is a link to the Washington Post above). Its own gun, then you need to at least understand it and conduct training. Its own chassis, then at least an average of 1 hour will have to be studied by the driver mechanic or the box will be disabled and it will become real estate. So it turns out that for the full realization of everything that this weapon can do, it needs at least trained personnel and the supply of consumables in the form of shells, fuel and oil at least. And do not forget that tracked tracks also serve a certain distance (the seal between the joints has its own property to wear out from sand and dust).
And there will be 7 pieces .
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that article in the Washington Post about the Javelin wasn't that one sided, how you want to look it like to be
also who talked about Diesel now? did you imagined an invisible dialogue partner here?
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also who talked about Diesel now? did you imagined an invisible dialogue partner here?
Read it, it's written about fuel. And with an addition, so that there is no such statement.
If you have a car, you will understand, and in its absence, ask car owners if they will be able to drive if they do not refuel (charge with an electric car) their car.
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good lord, now talking about cars, you're really fubar
do you even understand what we're talking here about or do you just throw random snippets in?
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I'm trying to bring it to your limited consciousness in a simpler way with the involvement of more understandable examples.
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yep, my consciousness is limited to proper media, where your consciousness is limited to state-funded media, so which consciousness is really limited here?
And why do you stubbornly try to force your opinion onto mine, when i already wrote several times, that i don't care about your shit at all and no one does here and you should get lost and go to RAT
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We still need to read all the media, not just those approved by the party, that's exactly what "Freedom of Speech" is. I have been saying this for a long time, but they have not listened to it. And so there are no arguments, there is already an attempt to force the opponent out for the convenience of proving his position. But the opponent does not really want to leave and from time to time shows inaccuracies.
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Нет. Либеральный демократ. А так готов и имперскую политику принять.
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is that your freedom of speech you're talking of all the time?
Tasheva: About 600 people being held hostage in Kherson region, mostly journalists and activists
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/837572.html
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It is clear that this representative office of the Republic of Crimea is located in Kiev, if you were not aware.
Interfax, when writing Tasheva, we get "It looks like we can't find what you're looking for. Why don't you try it?
Our News
Exclusive interview
Main news
Press releases"
An interesting option, isn't it. But if you write Kherson, then there are already 77 results. https://interfax.com/search/?q=+Kherson&how=d
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And once more you provide a laughable comment. You waste so much time expressing that training would be required to fully utilize the weapon system.
And surprisingly for your standard that's correct.
But guess what, the system was delivered just now because the Ukrainians were meanwhile trained in Germany.
Maybe you should waste less time posting your "insightful" expertise in this forum and try to keep up with the news you wish to comment on all the time while lacking all kinds of necessary knowledge not to make a fool of yourself.
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Fine, but the ammunition was supplied due to the fact that they need their own charging blocks, not the shells themselves, but what was previously gunpowder. It's just that you can't make a shot without it. This is the design of the gun.
And at first they didn't know what they would deliver, then they found out how long the practice would take. if earlier there was a conversation about preparing for the month of August.
If the supply was small, then it was for the day of the battle. Then it's useless weapons.
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I have literally no idea what you are talking about regarding ammunition.
Maybe you are confusing it with the Gepard system, which indeed has the problem that ammunition is limited due Swiss export limitations. The Panzerhaubitze has no such problems. It can fire any standard NATO shell, multiple specialized versions, production is running in Germany and export to Ukraine has already been greenlighted.
Anyways, I wasted enough time correcting all your falsehoods, misinterpretations etc.
Cheers!
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The main armament of the PzH-2000 is a 155-mm howitzer mounted in a circular rotation bucket with a barrel length of 52 caliber (just over 8 meters), developed by Rheinmetall Industry. The channel of the gun is chrome-plated, which prolongs its operation, prevents the wear of the barrel. The volume of the charging chamber is 23 liters. At the end of the gun barrel, a special slot muzzle brake of a new model is mounted, which reduces the intensity of the flash when the projectile leaves the gun barrel and increases the initial velocity of the projectile. The semi-automatic wedge gate is equipped with a magazine for 32 standard detonator caps with an annular conveyor, which is used for feeding and removing them. A number of barrel parameters, such as the temperature of the charging chamber, are controlled by automation and are used to control the AZ. In the vertical plane, the gun barrel can be guided in the range from -2.5 to +65 degrees.
Additional armament of the PzH-2000 self-propelled gun includes a 7.62 mm MG3 machine gun and 8 grenade launchers designed to shoot smoke grenades (4 from each side). The ammunition of the vehicle consists of 60 artillery shells, 48 full propellant charges (each consisting of 6 segments), as well as 2,000 machine gun cartridges and 8 grenades for grenade launchers.
The Rheinmetall company has created a multi-layer charge propellant laying system (MTLS), which allows to increase the rate of fire, prevents the formation of carbon deposits in the barrel channel and its rapid wear, increases the efficiency of firing and eliminates the risk of fire. The propellant charge for the PzH-2000 howitzer includes 6 MTLS modules. The maximum firing range of a standard L15A2 projectile is 30 km, and active-reactive ammunition is about 40 km. In addition to specially designed modular charges, conventional NATO ones can also be used.
https://topwar.ru/13920-pzh-2000-odna-iz-luchshih-i-samyh-skorostrelnyh-sau-mira.html
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People who keep replying to them are as much responsible for making thread hard to read as they are.
Ignore them. Don't throw more wood into fire they try to start.
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but they reply with such garbage, which is off-topic from off-topic
i don't complain about replies, i complain about pure spam, which his talk about ammunitions was, because no one discussed this topic with him and he went on an on...
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The conversation was about weapons, and more specifically about the PzH-2000 artillery system (a good installation, and even now it can do a lot). To which I had a clarification that it is impossible to consider only one installation, but it is also necessary to take into account the necessary additions in the form of shells (50 kg per shot) and the fuel on which this self-propelled gun will drive. After that, there was a cry about "spam", due to the lack of constructive criticism of the arguments given and the refusal to accept these not very good clarifications.
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So I'm guessing that you think this copy & paste somehow contradicts what I wrote, while it actually 100% confirms my latest comment. I mean it literally says so with the final words ...
conventional NATO ones can also be used
You REALLY are a clown, you can't even tell when you confirm your opponent's statement. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Thanks, that was the perfect laugh before bedtime. 👌
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Subject to their availability. Do not forget to add more about this, so we are waiting for a transport plane with 100 tons of shells and propellant elements (Weight when fired: 43.2 kg (95 pounds)). A little above it is said about the expense. You can keep laughing.
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he's always like that, be happy he stood halfway on topic and not started to write some other stuff, which has absolutely no relation to the topic
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I can supplement it, although I have already done it.
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yeah, like you suddenly started to talk about ammunitions in this branch and no one adressed this earlier and no one cares about it
and you go on and on, talking about it, when no one even spoke of ammunition in the replies
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The military system is a complex of a carrier, a gun and ammunition. Moreover, the carrier and the gun can be combined into one platform. If you forget about ammunition, then even if there are 20,000 barrels from them, you can not shoot because there is simply nothing. That's exactly what the suppliers do not forget about, although ordinary people may not know it.
Here there is a gun, but without cartridges it is a more sophisticated club than just a broken (picked up on the ground) stick. The gun does not fire without cartridges.
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fuck me, did your imaginary friend asked you about technical explanations now?
still talking about ammunitions, when no one here cares
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Even if there is a gun, it is just a standing firing point without fuel, and without ammunition it is just a standing point with a large pipe. Do not forget about the fact that it is necessary to the weapon, it does not like it.
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"For the entire Operation Desert Storm, we (that is, the United States) fired 60 thousand artillery shells. The Russians are releasing 50,000 shells a day in Ukraine!", the American expert is horrified.
https://srbin.info/en/svet/americki-ekspert-sokiran-takav-artiljerijski-dvoboj-kao-sto-je-sada-u-toku/
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what the hell, Desert Storm now?
still talking about ammunition, don't you see, you're the only one talking about ammunitions here?
boy, you're really desperate, no one wants to talk with you about ammunition, no one wants you here
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I'm talking about the complex, but only about the barrel of the gun, even standing on the carrier. That's just what you understand.
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and you're still the only one talking about it
i also took a deeper look on the site you linked, still relying on scum media, spreading hatespeech?
We are back in 1941. Again Nazis, not only German, but Ukrainian scum; again the Anglo-Saxons, who incite with a happy smile the Europeans we killed in 1945, the premature infants of the defeated Hitler's Euroreich
https://srbin.info/en/svet/andrej-fursov-ovo-je-plan-svaba-i-rotsilda-oko-ukrajine-i-zelene-agende/
or
Nikola Varagić: How to prevent EuroPride in Belgrade
https://srbin.info/en/pocetna/aktuelno/nikola-varagic-kako-spreciti-europride-u-beogradu/
what a loser you have to be, to read such bullshit?
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As I understood, they did not read the article, although you can choose the language there. Read it, not just the title, but the whole of it.
In April, the current heir of the British branch of the Rothschilds (sworn enemies of Russia, whoever ruled it: the Romans, Stalin, Putin) Nathaniel Rothschild addressed a letter to members of the British government. In it, he called Putin the most dangerous man since the defeat of Hitler, followed by Xi Jinping (by the way, the article about Putin was removed from the website of the World Economic Forum). "Ukraine," Rothschild continues, "is something so important, and we cannot afford to lose on the geopolitical chessboard."… We should have no illusions: if we allow Vladimir Putin to seize Ukraine, it will be a signal to our enemies - Iran, China and North Korea, especially since we will do nothing when faced with an attack by this force. In fact, our refusal to take military action means that our global project is dead (standing on its feet). I insist (urge) that you must use more forces against Russia and its henchmen, strengthen the "information war" in order to correct public opinion and send weapons to our friends in Ukraine. "Without Ukraine, the world order cannot survive."
Simply and without embellishment says that you are lying, but change your mind to what is considered "right".
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why should i even read full articles from scum media?
headlines are enough shit
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It is not always written about the whole article in the title. If you are laying it out, then you need to read it all.
And this is from Serbia (just checking in advance).
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In my opinion you don't have to read anything of shady scum media at all, telling only one narrative from the great book of russian tales.
shady scum media can be from everywhere, as you already proofed with that far-left and far-right sites from Germany, i wonder why you have to rely on such scum media. Is there no proper media, supporting your propaganda? what a surpsrise
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Then you ask to stop spam https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/0r2j66t, but immediately you violate your own request, well, I'm already used to some people using double standards.
Regarding the answer, I'm just trying to find those media outlets that are not blocked in Europe, due to the fact that some of the media in Europe are blocked and you won't have the opportunity to watch, and you won't even try using a VPN.
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no double standards here, mate, but you're already trained in making shit up, i'm not suprised
I tried to explain it to you, that you most of the time come up with blah blah blah no one asked for or no one talked about, even others noticed it and i would call this spam, but my posts on the other hand, nah, you won't understand and most likely start talking about bread
so you say, you try to find the shady scum media who slipped through the net? please don't start talking about fish now
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thanks for adding your worthless 2 cents, which contributes absolute nothing to the discussion
also odd, that Bazilies suddenly vanished and you appear, also so desperate to reply to each and everyone, was it shift change at the troll farm again?
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Actually, it's summer now, and it's vacation time. Some have gone to dachas, some to other cities, I'm going to Feodosia (Crimea, Russia) in July. So there is no shift, just a rest.
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Crimea, Russia according to UN resolution 68/262, right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_General_Assembly_Resolution_68/262
you take every chance to spread your propaganda and offend people, get lost, we don't want you here
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April 8 (19), 1783 — the Russian Empress Catherine II signed the Manifesto on the annexation of Crimea to the Russian Empire.
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we already knew, that you're living in the past, like your dictator Poo-tin, isn't this called retarded?
thanks for your snippet, which tries to distort the facts and the long history of Crimea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimea
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Is this a distortion, this is a fact and it was, just after that Sevastopol and Simferopol were founded, but Odessa was earlier.
And in Ukraine there are constant unrest and revolutions with the removal from power of the legitimately elected leadership of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea (by your own link).
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ah nice, we will send some long range balistics soon and take back that doesnt belong to pootin
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Please, next time, fully study the TTX of the transferred weapons. The PHz-2000 howitzer hits at 35 km (corrected shells were not transferred), even HIMARS (which is betrayed) it shoots at 70 km (there are no tactical missiles that this modular installation can release in the transmission, there are no idiots), which is approximately equal to a Hurricane and a Tornado in firing range. The nearest city is "Melitopol", but it must first be recaptured, It is possible from Kherson, but it must also be recaptured. But even with the control of Melitopol, there is 201 km. Be more attentive.
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What a legend! Russian journalist Dimitri Muratov raised $100+ million in an auction for his nobel prize. The money goes to unicef to support Ukrainian child refugees.
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so the kremlin spokesman said russia can never trust the west again.
that's pretty rich considering they started the new year by blitzing their neighbour.
russia has to be the biggest circus on the planet. they certainly have the best clown show.
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Maybe 'blitzing' isn't the right term. It's more of a 'shit this didn't work out, so let's grind it' situation. I agree on the clown show though. Even if it's not funny.
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well they tried blitzing their way into kiev but they didn't expect the tractor ambushes.
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You assume or know the plans of the General Staff of the armed forces of the Russian Federation. It's just that different tasks require different solutions. If the capture, then this is one task, but at the same moment why there was no movement, but only indications of presence, and then a planned withdrawal (they were not knocked out, but there was a withdrawal). But if the indication of the presence and the solution of other tasks is Mariupol, Severodonetsk, then this is a completely different scenario.
In one case, it is necessary to show that there will be an attack, and in the other to carry out an attack. The lack of an approach of reinforcements is also one of the options for war.
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Well, the majority here actually believes that Ukraine was going to attack Russia and that it's a country of "nazis", so why would they trust the West that supports "nazis"? Peskov addresses the Russian audience, not the international one, and it's just a part of domestic propaganda. And this statement is perfectly fine according to the inner logic of propaganda (not that it's always free of contradictions, to put it mildly).
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I wonder how long it will take to clear peoples' minds of the poison they've been fed daily over tha last years.
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It is generational challenge in my opinion. Only after kids are born and raised in free country they dont embody the characteristics that an oppressive regime instills on them.
Even if Russia loses abnormally and every single last responsible person is tried for war crimes, the nationalistically leaning Russians who are daily bombarded with propaganda would consider west evil and the root of their demise until their death. You can already see this in post soviet countries now. Only those who are born after the fall of soviet union values the freedom of west, while those who lived in the soviet union somehow still hinge on imagined past glory. (not everyone - granted. But IMO it can be generalized like this)
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More or less, it's like Moses did with his people, wandering until the new generation has grown, with new ideals.
Though it's gonna be really hard to root out the soviet-stalin-imperialistic thinking, because parents who lives in the USSR are raising their kids with the thought all that was super great. So maybe even more than one generation.
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After the blocking of 300 billion and the blocking of property, then the glasses flew off from everyone who was wearing the West, they began to treat him as a robber, and the one who is known, but with whom you can deal, but with the condition that there are no advances and the calculation goes right away.
So European politicians themselves destroyed the positive and the dream that everything is fine there and the law is being observed.
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I don't even want to think about that. At least until now there was no such a thing as systematic propaganda in schools, but looks like that's changing (history textbooks are being rewritten, a position of a headteacher whose sole responsibility is "upbringing" has been introduced in every school, and creating a system like pioneers (for those who don't know: it was a compulsory ideological movement for schoolkids in the USSR) is being discussed. Frankly, I was surprised to see you guys getting rid of Soviet heritage so quickly, and I totally envied you: by now I've got a strong suspicion that I won't live long enough to see the same changes here, and I'm not even 40.
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краще виїжджай з країни поки не закрили кордон. А то буде як в тій серії Симпсонів.
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It is a real shame to see the country descend into madness, because of the ruler's will. I do hope you will see positive changes, or at least no more negative ones.
As for Ukraine - it's easy. Soviet time was hard for us, and Holodomor didn't help. So when the time came, we tried to distance ourselves as much as we could, within reason. Right now we're doing it beyond reason, but maybe that's a good thing too.
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Ukrainian troops hit Snake island, continue to push back the enemy in Kherson region – Pivden task force
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/840669.html
Edit: i just realized Interfax is a russian news agency, of course independent and non state-founded, so they don't make up all that bullshit
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Don't Fund War
A comprehensive list of companies that still operate in Russia, financing its war against Ukraine.
This point is really stupid, because it's actually counterproductive. Take Renault for instance: they get a good grade because they did "Transfer Moscow factory to city government and partner for local brand production". It means they GAVE all their stuff to Russia. How is that for "not funding"? It's a multi-billion gift.
The best thing companies can do is to keep their assets (= keep money), keep selling normally (= take money), but stop buying as much as reasonably possible (= not give money).
Speaking of buying, all the crap companies buy is probably not that much in the grand scheme of things compared to all individual people who keep using Russian gas and petrol...
PS: I hope this madness ends ASAP, but sadly it seems it's going to last a while :/
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LPR forces took control of the road from Seversk to Lisichansk
"The LPR People's Militia took control of the only road from Seversk to Lisichansk. The Ukrainian group of five to seven thousand Ukrainian militants in Lisichansk is now cut off from supplies," the publication says.
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Russia deploys points for issuing Russian passports in occupied territories, puts pressure on Ukrainians to obtain them - Defense Ministry
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/841130.html
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Russian neo-nazi Air Assault Forces Squadron 'Rusich' openly calls for getting rid of local witnesses (also backup screenshot in case they remove this post or edit it) should its member screw something up.
Помните об огромном количестве камер, которые все фиксируют (закрывайте лицо).
Если вы накосячили, то постарайтесь, чтоб не оставалось сведетелей из числа местных.
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Be aware of the huge number of cameras that record everything (cover your face).
If you make a mistake, try not to leave any local witnesses.
Note: 'Rusich' Squadron is a part of larger 'Batman' group (not sure what is the correct word, division maybe?), known for neo-nazi members and numerous tortures since 2014.
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PACE: Flight MH17 shot down by a Russian-supplied Buk missile 'most convincing scenario by far'
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/841385.html
Russian invaders abduct relatives of Ukrainian servicemen, including children – Ukrainian intelligence
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/841409.html
Rosatom's building in center of Kyiv seized – National Police
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/841451.html
SBU exposes Russia’s GRU agent network, which included MP Derkach
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/841382.html
Ukrainian Air Forces make series of airstrikes on Russian occupation forces
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/841376.html
Russian forces lose 44 servicemen, two guns, several units of armored and motor vehicles in south – Pivden command
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/841365.html
Court arrests property of Russian businessman suspected of illegal mining in Ukraine, financing terrorism
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/841393.html
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Russia resumes attacks with Iskander missiles, uses Tu-22M3 long-range bombers for first time from territory of Belarus
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/841595.html
Missile attack from territory of Belarus a provocation by Russia to involve Belarus in war against Ukraine – intelligence
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/841571.html
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https://www.newsweek.com/russia-hits-ukraine-air-strike-belarus-first-time-kyiv-1719187
"48 cruise missiles. At night. Throughout whole Ukraine. Exclusively on civilian targets… Russia is still trying to intimidate Ukraine, cause panic and make people be afraid of Z-monsters… Ukraine knows everything and ready for anything. And it will punish for all the evil…" according to Mykhailo Podolyak, adviser to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.
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Fucking russia. Woke up in the morning from the explosions, several rockets flew in to Kyiv, destroyed a residential building.
Early sunday morning, when people are safely asleep in their homes. Fuck anyone who will say this was justifed in any sense.
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Shame that you don't get rockets visiting your yard.
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You pathetic excuse of a human, hope you're happy. This girl lost her father in today's shelling - he covered her with his body and died saving her, and her mom is in critical condition.
But of course, being witty on the internet is the priority. I do hope you get karma one day, I really do.
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Of course it is. But russia doesn't care, they spew hatred and wave their nukes around, so nobody has the guts to get them to stop (so far).
russia has been shelling hospitals, schoold and kindergartens since day 1 of the war. They do this deliberately, almost showing off.
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Indeed. Fuck him, and every single one of his minions who came to Ukraine to kill our people.
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https://t.me/vysokygovorit/8530 https://t.me/rybar/34401
About the hospital. We do not confuse hospitals. HIMARS is still on the side of NATO and Ukraine.
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Oh, sure, russian propaganda bots as an excuse to kill civilians. So typical.
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Stop this talk. If you want to discuss how you call SG users do it on Steam chat. Don't add more messages out of topic here.
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Хорошо Рыжехвост, теперь Вы перешли в отряд ботов. Поприветствуем нового бота Рыжехвост.
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Russia shells hospitals in Syria since 2015. They withdrawn from agreement that protect hospitals in Syria in 2020. They have the same strategy in Ukraine now. Destroy places that could help aid civilians and wounder soldiers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian%E2%80%93Syrian_hospital_bombing_campaign
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20200626-russia-quits-un-agreement-which-protects-hospitals-in-syria/
Don't try to deny it with some thread from telegram, made by some Russian soldier or propaganda center.
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The problem is because of the white helmets for the most part. And the UN has not given accusations, and will not be able to give. After that, the expression "highly likely" became very common. When it is necessary to accuse, but there is nothing, and what is done clumsily and is not suitable for the court. Like a whole cylinder of chlorine that fell on the bed through a hole smaller than the diameter of the cylinder without damage, taking into account the absence of damage on the bed itself and a nearby cabinet with glass doors. And the hole itself is on the edge, and the balloon lies in the middle of the room.
About the message from that channel. There is still a video there, and this is one of the videos, in fact there are several of them. They have already been handed over to the prosecutor's office.
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You will need start to write on topic. I wrote about Russia shelling hospitals and withdrawing from deal that protect medical centers. And you write about accuations and courts (which was not part of this discussion), balloons and chlorine cylinders (?) and destroyed room.
If you want to reply to my sources about shelling hospitals and Russia withdrawing from humaritarian deals - give a source that is not telegram. Otherwise your messages with weird descriptions will be just spam.
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how can we still talk to someone whitewashing massive killing of innocent people? shouldn't he be banned from thread or something?
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I already suspended some for supporting killing of civilian population. It obviously counts as a hate speech.
And you don't need to talk to people you don't want to. Ignoring them is sometimes the best option.
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More wet phantasies on Russian TV.
Andrey Gurulyov, State Duma deputy, former deputy commander of Russia's southern military district, discussed how to best attack the West, while also purging internal opposition & hunting them down abroad. Fellow propagandist warned I would use those quotes, but he kept talking.
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Ukraine War: Russia Defaults on Foreign Debt for First Time Since 1918 - Bloomberg
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-26/russia-defaults-on-foreign-debt-for-first-time-since-1918
Russia defaults on debt for first time since 1998 - BBC News
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61929926
Maybe.
In the short term, the impact on Russia will be minimal.💳
In the long term, it will create a desperate situation in which Russia will not be able to import even from third countries.💸
It is unlikely that Russia will move any further into Ukrainian territory in eastern Ukraine, so there may be some movement in Russian government policy in early July.⌚
🛸Can only hope that this is a good direction for the people of the earth.🌏
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Exhibition of Russian equipment destroyed by Ukrainian defense forces opened in Warsaw
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/841917.html
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wow, this is almost like bombing german cities in WW2 to break the morale of the civilian population
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One difference, Ukrainian morale isn't broken by this. We only get more motivated to kill each and every single one of the fucking orc invaders.
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Missile attack on Kremenchuk hit shopping mall with over 1,000 civilians, building is on fire – Zelensky
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/841939.html
As result of missile attack on Kremenchuk's mall, at least two killed, 20 wounded, nine are in critical condition – president's office
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/841948.html
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Animals. Now they are stating the market was "non functioning" and that they hit military targets. Again with their moronic propaganda.
Lying terrorist scum. And our unfriendly neighborhood trolls will probably resurface in several hours claiming how this was all an act and everyone in the store was a paid actor.
Also according to Ukrainian diplomat, Putin will declare the end of "special military operation" as victorious around August right before the election. It doesn't matter what the result will be, whatever happens will be claimed as victory with your usual threats that if anyone moves on the occupied territories the Russia will be "unstoppable". Can't find an article in English though. Either way - sick and psychopathy are the only words to describe Kremlin and its politicians. The damned cockroach Medvedev is also constantly threatening everyone with WW3.
I just hope west will continue to keep pressure on the psycho for atrocities they have committed and the dictatorship will be destroyed. Sickening.
As a side note - we had emergency siren tests today in my country. Hadn't noticed news about the tests and for a moment there my hearth skipped a beat. Can't imagine the stress and horror in being in constant bombardment from terrorist state.
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i guess some idiot mistaken the mall for a hangar or storage for weapons
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Either way that's another war crime on their stupid little heads
Even IF they did shoot at military objects nearby, they obviously had to use unprecise rockets and knew and accepted that civilians will be collateral damage. Which makes it even more horrible. And if rusbots want to say how they only use state of the art precise rockets - then obviously they knew what they were shooting at. And again any theory absolving them fails miserably.
They cant even hide behind "war has casualties" as those absolute morons doesn't recognize this as war. By the logic of Russians this literally is act of terrorism.
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yeah, like they always speak of their "high-precision" stuff and then this happens
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they have long-distance weapons
we don't and nobody give us ones to shoot in return
nobody cares how war crimes are called because it IS A WAR CRIMES
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Only brought it up because there are already people trying to defend Russia by claiming "its normal" , "Ukraine faked it" , "Collateral damage" , "Only military objects shot at" etc
But of course - just another war crime they are trying to wiggle out of. I just hope anything will come out of this and someone will be held accountable.
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same people who watch fox "news" and support ruzia? because who else can support that shit is beyond my understanding
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Some people are simply stupid beyond comprehension ... I think that kind of answers the question of who and why ..... :/
As far as I see in Latvia, people are very supportive of Ukraine.. But some characters just make me question if there is a limit to how stupid and arrogant a person could be to consider them a functional part of society..........
a bit off topic : Just two latest examples I recall - we had a facebook post where dude was looking for his stolen van. There where actually people starting to comment how this only started after Ukraine refugees came here implying they steal cars... And yesterday there where sad local news of girl drowning (but she went missing for two days) .... Imagine this - there where people who commented that even that is fault of Ukraine refugees and someone has stolen her....If some people are stupid enough to draw parallels in such topics - I am less surprised about the other stuff......
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Did you call for me?
Oh, that's how you put it....
The Russian government is committing a "massacre of civilians.
And since it did so on the government's orders, the phrase "war crimes" will be used.
If this phrase is an alternative strategy to "all Russians are evil," it is a good place to start.
If there are any Russian citizens left who think their country is right, I feel that they should finally leave Russia.
Because by next year, the Russian people may no longer be perceived as "a type of human being" or "victims of the government".
In the past(old time), the U.S. frequently conducted indiscriminate air raids in Japan and slaughtered civilians, and "Americans" and "British" were treated as "demons" and "devils" at that time.
(Such is not the case in today's society)
The Soviet Union also unilaterally broke the Nonaggression Pact and invaded Japan, causing many Siberian internees to be forced into forced labor in hell, and many of these "inhuman atrocities" have been recorded.
Apparently, history is about to repeat itself. I have been avoiding COMMENT on the actions of the Russian government, which I find disgusting from the bottom of my heart....
Well, to be honest, I think Russians should stop being Russians.
Because the actions taken by the Russian government in Ukraine are surely headed Russian citizen way.
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Zelensky: Russia has become largest terrorist organization in world
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/842140.html
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NATO Secretary General
Jens Stoltenberg on Twitter: "We now have an agreement that paves the way for #Finland & #Sweden to join #NATO. I thank Presidents @RTErdogan & @Niinisto & @SwedishPM for the constructive spirit that made this historic decision possible. " / Twitter
https://twitter.com/jensstoltenberg/status/1541869030226726912
This is good news for many countries, except Russia.(Especially for Ukraine.)
Things seem to be approaching the rapids point of the river run.👀....
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https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-06-29-22/index.html
I see that CNN's Ukraine live feed is up and running for the first time in a few days.
Things seem to be moving.📰👀
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"At the same time, we are giving the coordinates of the objects," Rogozin added. "Just in case."
Talking about publishing places of NATO summit, white house, pentagon and some other places. IMO with the last remark probably meant as some dick measuring contest about nuclear weapons again. With every new public announcement the Kremlin just makes it more and more obvious that everything in Russia feeds Putins dictatorship and it needs to be purged.and if not that then laughed at about how stupid they are .... like literally coordinates and addresses are pretty much publicly known.. they thought they did something....
Also another opposition politician gets arrested in broad daylight without any reason ... Such free country, much democracy.
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i wonder if we should tell them the pentagon's location is public knowledge... i mean even the terrorists found it 20 years ago.
But maybe they were just happy to have found it after they banned google maps. who knows...
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Zelensky: Atrocities of Russian occupiers - consequence of policy in Russia
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/842401.html
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMMk3krCnSo
Debunking Russian claims on mall attack.
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russia is a terrorist state. Lying, killing, raping, but always saying they don't do that.
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