are you sure they are invalid? You tried it or have someone to can confirm this?
I have 2 copies of it -__-
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You can try to redeem them even if you own the game already - they'll show as invalid.
And yes, entire 2hu familia is salty about that, we confirmed it.
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does your Archibot or Steamgroup ggot a "deleted Game section or btw. detection list?"
an info for upcoming "steam delete" actions or anything else?
would like ;)
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Nope, my bot is not interested into deleted games.
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Well just asking ;) cuz aint u the internet? ;)
steam should make such informations.
bet if they call out a game to be deleted from store, the sells would rise up.
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It's sad when you see this kinda things happening, so many people angry, devs that may give up, publishers that don't give a f*ck.
Recently this seem to be happening every 2 or 3 weeks for a random indie game, you never know who's next.
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I have a source that says it was a DMCA'd :http://i.imgur.com/kuKh2C1.png
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nooo i was hoping to get that vn oh well crap happens on the + side one less game on wishlist
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That's what you get for buying a Chinar VN in a "Tokyo Anime" bundle I guess.
More seriously, this is perhaps a similar case as that one indie dev in portugal who couldn't figure out how to receive payments from Valve either, so set his game to $100, so no one would buy it instead of disabling the store page like normal. (apparently he couldn't figure that one out either?) "Snow" something, iir.
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Yup, Snow Light http://store.steampowered.com/app/329480/ it's back to $9.99 now.
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couldn't figure out how to receive payments from Valve
no, his bank took horrendous fees for those transactions surpassing the amount given. A case of worst bank ever.
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I know the story.
This guy is too dumb to figure out how to manage his payments and bank account vs. no one else has ever had this problem? - I'll go with that one guy in particular is an idiot.
Supposedly he has a publisher anyway. It's probably just "a front" for himself, but they should have been the ones paying him if it was an actual company. The only game under that label is this one, so I suspect it's jsut the one guy anyway.
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How awful if what has been posted is true -- ie, publishers screwing devs out of money.
Also, I might be a bit concerned about the numerous reports of trojan in the .exe. While it may indeed be a false positive, too many people are way too trusting that Valve would actually have the capability or desire to audit every line of code in the tens of thousands of games submitted to them for distribution. I find it fairly probable that at least one of the games on their servers actually has some malicious code in it... particularly when there are some very unscrupulous devs and publishers out there and the ease with which they can get games on the service.
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And we would be(unknowingly) literally buying a virus XD
You know, pay so we can screw your PC.
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It's actually a very clever delivery vector since there is almost unanimous trust and poor security practices amongst the majority of Steam users. People somehow believe that Valve would never let a virus on their service, but it is stated in their terms of service that they do not accept liability or guarantee that their games are virus-free:
Section 7-C of Steam user agreement:
C. NO GUARANTEES
NEITHER VALVE, VALVE EU NOR THEIR AFFILIATES GUARANTEE CONTINUOUS, ERROR-FREE, VIRUS-FREE OR SECURE OPERATION AND ACCESS TO STEAM, THE CONTENT AND SERVICES, YOUR ACCOUNT AND/OR YOUR SUBSCRIPTIONS(S) OR ANY INFORMATION AVAILABLE IN CONNECTION THEREWITH.
There is absolutely no way that Valve is auditing all the games that they have on their servers, and people believe that if they pay for something it is going to be virus-free so they will just ignore any warnings they get. A very psychologically clever delivery vector.
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At least we know that a big company wouldn't do it because of the backlash that would obviously fall on them.
But a shady indie dev that nobody knows... paraniod mode on
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Actually big companies did it all the time with invasive DRM -- but they acknowledged that they were distributing malware with their games. ;-)
Truly though, it's not so much paranoia as just good sense to be wary of any executable that is run on your system. People need to realize that a good virus is an undetectable virus (particularly where botnets are concerned). Publisher/developer reputation means a lot here, and there are a lot of games on Steam that come from rather iffy sources.
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The devs got screwed by the publisher, Ju Cai... not the other way around.
Zedraxlo isn't shady. He is Chinese.
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Yeah, not completely sure what you're talking about.
My comment was generalistic, and I was talking about the possibility of a dev uploading an infected file.
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So it IS a false positive then? I was just installing Shan Gui right now and my Norton said it detected a trojan. The installation still seems to be continuing, however. Which is good, as I want to play the game.
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It's not definitive, but there was one person that posted they ran the game in a VM and then checked the VM with their particular antivirus and after running it and it came back clean. Of course, you are relying on a random post on Steam for this information. I'd probably give it about 90% odds that it is a false positive given what I know about it, but I personally won't be running it on my main machine due to the 10% possibility that it contains malware (mostly on account of the unknown status and reliability of the publisher/developer due to the strange status of the game's availability). I keep a separate non-networked test machine for these sorts of files that I am a little iffy about. Obviously not everyone is able to do the same, so it comes down to your risk tolerance -- just remember, there is a slightly elevated risk that you could pick up some undetectable malware if you decide to run the game.
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Thanks for all the information.:)
There were a lot of people that gave reviews at Steam. You would think that if there was a virus that one of them would have said they got hit with it (not just a false positive).
I guess I've got the game in my Library and even though the keys are invalid (for now) it won't be getting removed from my library and I can play it when there is more certainly (say, if whatever is going on right now gets resolved and it gets put back on Steam).
Have a great night, thekuribo!
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Just want to say that positive reviews does not mean that they haven't been infected. Again, a good virus is an undetectable virus, and particularly with things like botnets it makes it most efficient to hide any activity as pretty benign so as not to make the user suspicious. Viruses have come a long way since they were used primarily to annoy/cause disturbance, and the best ones these days do not inconvenience their hosts in a way that makes them suspicious of their presence.
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What a shame. Thank goodness I won a GA for Shan Gui just a couple of days ago.
Supposedly the publisher bailed out on the dev, and then took the game down from the Steam store. But what's weird is that Shan Gui is a Greenlight game, so why did the dev use a publisher to begin with?
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Better question is why they decided to invalidate all the keys, it's not usual - games are getting removed from store, for various reasons, but keys are usually left untouched. Developers can even issue more keys AFTER their game is taken off the store.
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They are doing it so they can release Ghan Sui and then people will buy it :D I'm completely talking out of my ass, I don't own the game but I think I'll live
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sub status = 2 (unavailable), so keys will not activate (shows as invalid, just like AXYOS last time)
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That's what you get for posting those awful melting Cirno pictures ;_;
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You never forget anything arent ya?
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I have a good memory, I must admit. But usually it only works for things I'm happy with, and for people I like. I tend to forget bad things pretty fast, that's why I'm also forgiving that easily.
But how could you melt Chiruno ;_;
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Like this
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someone posted a steam link to it, on page 2 of this thread, you're not screwed yet if you still want to give it away :p
mahadi22
you can still buy the game from here
http://store.steampowered.com/sub/45731
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- Already deleted
- **** giving them more money after keys got invalidated, and full price to boot
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Might be a region thing as the package still works here. But definitely agree with second point.
Edit: Just saw the post in the next page, it seems it can be added to the cart it just can't be bought, didn't go that far as was not planning on buying.
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Well at least FF-X remaster is coming tomorrow so you that going for ya :D
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No clue until it releases. I'd say at minimum, $20 - $25, but they do sell it at US$49.99 on PSN for PS4 last I checked, so...
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Hopefully its around $20, otherwise I am bit fucked as well I guess :| btw thought you would insta buy since well Rikku :p in fact your name was the first thought that came to my mind(Delta must be loving this) when I saw the announcement in reddit lol
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I've owned 3 copies of X and 2 copies of X-2, but that doesn't solve the problem of being broke, unfortunately. I always have it on PS3 anyway.
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Something wrong with me owning a great game three times?
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No that was for being broke part, kinda same situation so can understand.
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If it's over $20 I'll buy it myself for the second time for the ps4 since Wal-Mart is selling copies for $19. I'll be excited for when SE puts it on their Final Fantasy 50% sale.
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Actually, the non-payment theory and DMCA theory could both be true. If I were a dev getting screwed over by a publisher, I would definitely consider submitting a DMCA complaint claiming that since the publisher hasn't upheld their end of the contract, they have no legal right to distribute my game. I would also try to get all the outstanding keys canceled so that the publisher takes the heat from angry buyers.
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Makes sense and I wouldn't be shocked if that's the true version - it even makes sense considering revocation of all the keys, because developer was salty and wanted to make sure that publisher won't sell any content of his game anymore, including everything what could be revoked. I wonder if we ever learn the truth.
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But after you acquire the distribution right yourself, you need to replace those revoked keys. If not, the heat is on your side.
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Not really, no. If I were to sell you a key for Fallout 4 and Bethesda revokes it because I never paid Bethesda, Bethesda is under absolutely no obligation to replace your key. You need to go to the place you bought it from, not whoever has the rights to distribute it.
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but....but.... if this game is removed then that means I"LL NEVER BE BORN!
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Damn, I hadn't activated it yet. Although I'm feeling a bit better about buying a giftable copy of it during the holiday sale before the Tokyo Anime was released.
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If you still have it - keep it, it might be expensive for removed game collectors soon.
Unless you want to activate it for yourself of course :3. But you can always do it later too!
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I have no plans to activate it in the immediate future. Hopefully this will all get resolved and I won't have to decide between money and playing a game.
It's funny, the game is still for sale on the Indie Gala website. I'm guessing those keys are bad too.
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I think the same, but I don't want to waste money (which IG should give back anyway) only to check it out.
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I'm still peeved they haven't resolved AXYOS. I have 4 unusable code.
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My AXYOS key(from IG bundle) is valid now, maybe you can try again?
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Okay. I'll have to get my brother & nephew to try it on their accounts.
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Email Indiegala support. I had to request a new key from IG support. Took a little bit but got a working key.
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My original code is still invalid.
I contacted Indie Gala and got a new code for Axyos
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I never had a problem with my AXYOS key... Sucks for anyone that did.
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SHAN GUI IS BACK \o/
Old revoked keys should be working once again! :3
(Text below is no longer up-to-date, as keys got reactivated. I kept it for archival purposes only)
If you have any keys, e.g. from Tokyo Anime, you can try to redeem them to find out they're all invalid. So I suggest to avoid making giveaways, if you planned to (best to remove invalid keys or put them on special list).
Probably trustworthy source: http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4540865834
Previous theories (which seem to make sense considering above):
Something happened
Another theory - DMCA
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