solid surfaces often take care of the deceleration issue :)
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got that sussed too, a really tall tower in the center of the usa, one in russia and a massive large elastic band....pull back to say the south pole and release.
I believe the scientist people call that a sling shot orbit
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One of the primary "problems" with most concepts of time travel is that they rely on moving a physical object.
To move a physical object through movement alone, it would need to surpass itself in order to travel through time.
Either go FASTER than itself or SLOWER than itself.
Ofcourse going back in time poses the problem that an object could theoretically not go further back in time than the point it was created and going into the future poses a problem of decay.
Alternate means suggest time travel by dematerialization and sending things as energy alone. A far more plausible prospect to imagine - IF we could get something to dematerialize and IF we could find a way to rematerialize on the other end.
The orbit around earth theory primarily relies on time dilation which is our perception of time. Rather than actual time.
In other words, its our hardware that is flawed, not time itself that changes.
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well, the only thing preventing the dematerialization way is the Uncertainty Principle of Heisenberg, which makes it nigh impossible to put back the particles in the exact way they used to be, hence making it impossible to teleport or time-travel. The beamers in star trek use a "Heisenberg Compensator", funnily enough, when asked as to how it works the answer is "very well", meaning they couldn't think of some sci-fi mumbojumbo to explain it. go figure : /
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Correct, in theory (as far as we understand the concept right now) it would be possible to shift from teleportation to time travel.
We would need to figure out how to rematerialize on the opposite end and how to shift the axis from "space" onto "time" - but within the confines of how we have currently defined these planes it would be possible. And far more feasible than actually sending a physical object as a whole (like how we travel using cars, boats, planes etc).
Ofcourse that all relies on the fact that our knowledge of these concepts is complete and correct. Which it in best case scenario is far from true.
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I honestly thought this would be some creationist argument at first but I laughed quite a bit! Thank you all for allowing me to forget about my finals for a couple minutes! (Also, we are already traveliing through time, we just haven't invented the reverse gear yet ;D)
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we seem to be stuck with only two gears too (the one that is used when at work, slow speed and the one we use when not at work, highspeed)
good luck with the exams!
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will do, i watched a documentry on cybernetic killing machines sent back in time, i am pretty sure i can adapt one to be very motivational
/me puts on his best arnie voice "Study with me if you want to live"
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Why do people think time travel is a myth? it's been a scientific fact for over 50 years, it's just not very useful, in fact it is kinda inconvenient.
Clocks on the international space station have been shown to loose 0.01 seconds every year, slowly loosing sync to identical terrestrial clocks. This is due to time moving at different speeds, IE time travel. The GPS satellites also ran into difficulties with their on board clocks for similar reasons
So to sum things up time travel is real and a real bother.
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hay dont bring facts in here! anyone can prove anything with facts! :)
Didnt know that about the clocks on the international space station, is that true?
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Not quite the article I remember reading, but this one talks about the frequent clock syncs
https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/heo/scan/engineering/technology/txt_dsac.html#.VVyzH7lViko
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That proves time dilation, not time travel though.
Which in the biggest of probabilities proves that our perception of time is flawed.
As is the case with most of our perceptions of any form of science. We simply lack the means and knowledge to fully comprehend it and have to deal with a limited perspective.
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actually, time dilation has NOTHING to do with our perception of time, it is physically set that the speed of the object influences directly how much time "happens" to it (overly simplified but hey, I can't be expected to write down the formula here) what you're thinking about is the "hands on hot pan or hot girl" analogy of Einstein : )
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That isn't what I meant with out perception of time being flawed.
When we perceive time, we measure it in seconds, minutes etc. This measurement is done using machines.
Now if you go back in time to when we used mechanical clocks - the clockwork tended to be "flawed" so over the course of weeks or months a clock would start to deviate from the "accurate" passage of time. Either running fast or slow.
Modern clocks are far more accurate. But our perception of the universe (and of time) is still rather restricted.
So when we take our "earthbound" knowledge and apply it to space, we have no guarantee to rule out that the machines remain as accurate as we perceive them to be on earth when they are in space.
In other words, while the clock of an astronaut may run seconds or minutes short (depending on the trip) it is entirely possible that the actual time passed for the astronaut isn't infact less - its just his machine that started running "fast" due to the alternate environmental conditions...
In other words. While time remained the same, our perception of that time through the tools we apply changed.
This perception reveals itself through apparent dilation of time, rather than TRAVEL through time.
The astronaut who had his clock run fast/slow in comparison to earth did not "travel" through time as much as that time ran faster or slower atleast for his measuring device. Simply put, machine failure is a far more likely reason than that the astronaut actually spent "less time" in space than the people back on earth spent while he was in space.
To the point of what you are suggesting though. Even that is restricted to our perception of the universe.
Science relies largely on a handful of basic assumptions - but from time to time we learn something new which we use to alter our perception.
Before "gravity" was defined, gravity already existed. We just hadn't labeled it.
Before "atoms" and "molecules" were defined, they already existed. We just didn't know about it.
The same holds true for time. The nature of time doesn't change - but as we learn more and more about the universe around us, our perception of time MAY change.
Which is a completely different concept than the relativity theory you're talking about.
Which is also perception of passage of time, but not in the way I meant it. ;)
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I'm sorry that you died in your attempts to prove time travel.
Allow me to elaborate this conclusion.
Either A >
You successfully acquired a machine that could theoretically time travel and it malfunctioned. Killing you in the process therefor not allowing you to prove to yourself that time travel exists by going back in time to tell yourself.
B > You never did succeed in acquiring your machine and died of old age (or any other cause) without ever being able to travel back in time and prove to yourself time travel exists.
C > You DID succeed in travelling back in time - but through any number of reasons you got prevented from telling yourself (Paradox, time police and so on) potentially dying in the process or alternately eventually dying of old age without ever having been able to prove to yourself that time travel exists.
Regardless of which way it happened. You have my condolences. You will probably be missed by someone.
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sadly those that missed me had time to reload ..i doubt they will miss again :(
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they already visited me last year gave me till the renaissance to fill out the paper work :(
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You can't even follow simple logic rules (you can't prove that something can't work with an example), and you believe yourself capable of creating a time machine? That's a double fail right there.
I'm pretty sure what really happened was:
1) You quit your job.
2) You dedicated your time to gaming until you ran out of money.
3) You went back to your parents.
4) You continued to spend your time gaming.
5) Profit?
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So im stuck at work with an hour and a half of captivity left, so i decided to try to invent time travel.
At first i tried a downloaded flux capacitor app but i was unable to spin the swivel chair to the required 88mph to activate it (side note: man am i dizzy)
Then it hit me (the floor, as i say i was still dizzy)
when i came to i realised there is only one plan that could work
1) as soon as i get home tonight, quit my job
2) dedicate my entire life, every second to making a time travel device
3) come back in time to a few seconds before i started to spin the chair and tell myself how i did...and maybe a few lottery numbers (hay time travel isnt mentioned in the rules) that way i can skip 1 and 2...plus you know..millions of pounds (yeah i know money cant buy happiness but im pretty sure it can rent it)
sadly i never came back, so i know i failed, time travel not possible so no need to do 1 or 2 .....3 also problematic.
sorry to be the bearer of bad news, you will be pleased to know though i have invented a theory on zero gravity though using nothing more then a slice buttered bread, a cat and some duct tape.
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