north africa region, huge prices drop for some devs: (applies to the other regions i guess?)
Valve 50%
THQ Nordic 50%
Square enix/Eidos 50%
3DRealms 50%
Konami 50%
Humble games 50%
Nacon 50%
Devolver 50%
Bethesda 40%
CD Projekt Red 40%
CI games 40%
Bandai Namco 35%
Focus home 30%
Deepsilver 25%
Capcom 25%
Ubisoft 20%
Sega (depend on games, few old ones 50%)
Microsoft & activision & warner bros & 2K & rockstar games & 505 games 0%
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That's actually quite nice for the countries that were paying US prices until a couple of days ago, and it happening just as a sale starts is extra nice.
Sadly for us in the two countries that got our local currencies dropped this is still a substancial price hike when compared to the old prices, anywhere from 2 to 5 times as expensive as before from the little I looked, for some games it might even be 10 times.
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L4D & L4D2 still shows USA pricing for me.
Edit: It now shows the new prices.
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"con 15 peso me hago alto guiso", yo con 15 dolares me compro cantidad de juegos, sad.
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Me acuerdo de ese meme, tenía un amigo que estuvo jodiendo por meses con el "quince peso".
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It is what it is, other than not buying what can we do?
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Besides the obvious thing that can be done, i'll buy only with at least 75% discount, and from publishers that respect the suggested price or at least just a bit more, but never the US price.
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I've decided to just straight up not buy using my credit card anymore, from now on I'll exclusively buy using what I get from selling trading cards and other items since that's "free".
Also after the insane 155% tax was announced pretty much anything in USD is an immediate nope.
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I only bought with credit card with Macri, never with the Peronchos' "cepo" (Because this one is also Kretina's, Macri put it temporarily because of the uncertainty that the PASO generated with the fear of Albertitere as a "president", although Kretina first and Ventajita SergioTomasDeLaBuena later were the de facto presidents). Besides Macrit took it out after several years, they got back what they left and if they wanted they could've removed it after merely a few days.
Luckily i still have TF2 keys from when i traded (now HB Choice is a scam, why the hell are region locks if we all pay exactly the same why don't we get ROW keys? It doesn't make sense at all) When the "cepo" is gone in 6-9 months if all the keys are ROW i might buy again. But only for trading, bundles are crap now, there's only HB and Fanatical and there are no Point and Click games, before there was also Indiegala, Groupees and there were lots of P&C.
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The whole idea of limiting the exchange of currencies and arbitrarily setting an official exchange rate is unsustainable, it's just a stopgap for when shit hits the fan but in this country we have the absolute idiots called peronistas that assume you can simply leave a temporary measure in place forever without it causing the whole economy to go crazy, they just seem to be unable to grasp the most basic of economic concepts like when they say that emitting currency like there's no tomorrow has nothing to do with the inflation going hyper. They're either so dishonest that they can no longer tell the truth or are actually too dumb to understand what they're saying.
I sold the few TF2 keys I had during the last summer sale, didn't know at the time that Steam was planning to switch us back to USD, but I only had 4 of those anyway. I haven't traded in years, did it mostly for fun but eventually it got too boring to bother.
BTW Indiegala is still selling in ARS tho, at least on their store, the bundles were always in USD exclusively. I often grind credit from their Feudalife game and buy the games that still have outdated prices, they still have some things for $20 or $30 ARS during sales.
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Peronchos are dumb idiots but that's not why they pull the crap that they do it's because they don't give a fuck they think let's keep stealing and let the next one take care, and if they're the next ones then stretch it 4 more years, and if it gets too bad they can always do what Barrionuevo says: "We have to stop stealing for 2 years".
And when they open their mouths they lie and they lie so much that they might end up believing it (It's Cartman's mental gymnastics ). Ventajita in campaign: "I'm Massa and if you vote me for president i will fix the disaster that the minister of economy Massa made"
Good to know about IndieGala, i'll keep that in mind. And let's hope that now that there are these 2 new regions HB give us ROW keys at least, although they don't have regional pricing so why the hell do they have region locks?
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That is really cheap, but i already have all of them
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Thanks to your the recommendation i found Unusual findings (50% off) for 700 and in Steam (45% off) it's 2170 (i used Steamcito with tax value of 0.0001, because 0 defaults to 155%, so i can check directly with indiegala). Also 0.20 cahsback in Galacredit, so it's a 71% discount over steam.
I used Bundle Helper Reborn script to highlight wishlisted, owned and ignored. Sadly it's only highlighting you can't just search wishlisted.
Do you know some steam group, reddit or something where you can find big discounts like these in IndieGala for Argentina?
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I don't know of any group or page tracking these but I also never went looking for it too hard, I suspect that only a handful of people were actually paying attention to IndieGala's regional prices, partly because they just showed up one day.
GMG used to sell in pesos, or at least showed the prices in ARS last time I checked, but actually buying anything was impossible because the moment you tried to move to checkout the site threw an error message.
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Maybe now there will be, before it wasn't worthy with the old prices. I hope the publishers and Valve see big decrease in sales and increase in key activations and also i hope now that there will be lot of tutorials explaining how to buy in the russian store because it's by far the cheapest one now like it was before Argentina and Turkey. And they'll have to raise the prices there too or do something crazy that ocurred to me: instead of punishing everybody why not just punish the abusers? why not use some method to verify the country via id or for example only allow buying from Argentina with Mercadopago.
i read here i think that the publishers once they saw the price in USD they would charge the same as in US, and it was true with ARS they respected the suggested price, now they don't. Such a bad timing to remove ARS (were they convinced that the crackhead was going to win? ) they should have updated the suggested price automatically every certain threshold in the exchange rate and also if necessary give an option to the publisher that if they use the suggested price when it changes, the price of the game is updated without any intervention required.
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Para Valve el problema siempre fueron los que estaban comprando en Argentina y Turquía a través de VPN, no los que estábamos haciendo compras legítimas desde acá, los que aparentemente se estaban quejando eran los desarrolladores y los que publican los juegos. Y técnicamente tiene previsto en sus reglas que los usuarios no pueden usar VPNs, a veces incluso banean a algunos para que sirvan de ejemplo, pero no lo aplican demasiado porque aparentemente la legalidad de prohibir eso es cuestionable en algunos países y no quieren meterse en quilombos legales al pedo. Además cada vez que implementan una nueva regla alguien encuentra la manera de trampear sin romperla, no hay forma de ganarle a miles de tipos probando cosas hasta que alguna funcione.
No sería la primera vez que Rusia se vuelve la region más barata en Steam, durante un tiempo era común comprar regalos de traders rusos, por eso implementaron todas esas restricciones a los regalos.
Creo que los yanquis no entienden muy bien como funciona la política argentina o el hecho que en el balotaje las cosas se suelen dar vuelta, ellos vieron que Massa iba a la cabeza y probablemente asumieron que iba a ganar.
Y lo de los precios tiene sentido cuando lo mirás desde el punto de vista de quienes los ponen, porque Valve no le puede fijar los precios, nadie querría trabajar con ellos si no. El independiente que está vendiendo en Steam ve dos docenas de monedas locales y ni se molesta en verificar las tazas de cambio del día o en leer sobre la economía de un montón de países, pone los precios como vienen y ya está, pero cuando ven que está en USD lo ponen todo al mismo precio. Y las empresas grandes todo depende de que dicen directivos cuya única prioridad es hacer más plata este año que el anterior.
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Es increíble como la gente muchas veces, por claro enojo con la situación, habla del peronismo como si fuera el mal de todos sus problemas, cuando el verdadero mal es no saber votar y no tener candidatos decentes durante décadas.
Una y otra vez chocamos con la misma piedra y buscamos justificativos. Y una y otra vez, cada gobernante que entra tira abajo todo lo del anterior... sea bueno, sea malo, da igual... solo lo destruye y vuelve a comenzar (dañando a parte de la población en el proceso, con numerosas excusas para justificar dicho daño).
La práctica de Privatizar - Expropiar - Privatizar - Expropiar - Privatizar.... hasta lo que no da déficit y si da ganancias, por ej, es una de las más perjudiciales que hemos tenido, destruyendo en su paso el acceso, vía tren, a diferentes pueblos, los cuales, debido a la falta de estas formaciones, fueron abandonados con el paso del tiempo).
Otro ejemplo, quizás más claro y sencillo: En cualquier país como la gente, un ministro que aumentó la crisis, de manera sideral, nunca podría ser candidato a presidente. Tampoco podría haber sido candidata una señora grande, que solo repetía el spot de campaña y no podía hilar dos frases seguidas sin trabarse (y ni hablar de su desastrosa gestión hace tiempo, con los jubilados). Y menos... ganar un tipo que polemizó hasta con lo que uno creía imposible que se podía polemizar...
Pero bueno, estamos en Argentina, donde lo imposible muchas veces se vuelve posible. Y ahora vamos con rumbo a lo desconocido.
Esperemos realmente sea un buen gobierno, por el bien de todos.
Y sobretodo... esperemos el ajuste realmente sea sobre "la casta" y no sobre la gente trabajadora, que actualmente vive día a día controlando las subas de precios, para saber que comprar y que no (entre tantas cosas que se podrían decir).
..............
Quizás lo de los juegos es un problema mucho más secundario, en este sentido, pero si realmente mejoramos económicamente, quién les dice que algún día volvamos a ver al peso argentino en Steam...
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Probably they going to hop to other stores that have less prices or are in pesos (like X-Box or Gog) and maybe some devs realize a drop on some sells to get the price change (now basically the only one that i see change prices are big AAA companies and some big indie publishers like devolver or HB, niche or smaller publishers i didn't see a drop of prices between USD stores...probably they don't realize or don't care).
Also like a side note, one drop of price that got DEMOLISHED with this change is the steam card market, now that things cost basically nothing.
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GOG isn't in pesos, did you mean GMG?
And yeah, cards are so cheap now that many/most are not worth selling. At least now I have an excuse to build full sets again, gonna go back to the old strategy of saving them for the big sales and sell the event cards that drop from crafting badges.
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No gog, is not in pesos but he have special prices for Argentina for what i know. I know it because i just enter yesterday and they are VERY cheap in some games (specially the one old school that the page loves) in comparation with steam.
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They have had those for a long time, they apply to all of Latin America and they have similar price regions for other parts of the world. If I'm not wrong they started doing that because they thought charging Euro prices in Poland wasn't fair (they're a Polish company).
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Hello, folks. Argentine account here. I can’t seem to activate anything lately. Has anyone gotten this message?
Sorry, but this product is not available for purchase in this country. Your product key has not been redeemed.
There has been a few orphan keys that I’ve wanted to activate, namely World of Goo, but I couldn’t. The thing is, it is available for purchase in Argentina, for $14.99. And, usually, when a key has already been redeemed, you get a different message stating that. The only logical explanation I can think of is that maybe these older keys aren’t compatible with the new region that is now Latin America. What do you guys think?
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Weird, that shouldn't happen since the pricing region tends to have no effect on the activation regions for keys, they're usually handled as different types of licenses.
Looking here I can see a lot of different packages, some keys and some store/gifts, but I wasn't able to find any with region restrictions. The game has been bundled many times tho so there's a chance that steam-db simply doesn't have every single type of key in their list.
I should also mention that I haven't had any problem activating keys since the currency switch, so there's the possibility that it's an issue with your account in particular. Are you in Argentina physically or have you been using a VPN?
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Thank you for the reply. I appreciated it. Yeah. It’s very weird.
Are you in Argentina physically or have you been using a VPN?
Good question. I’m currently not in Argentina, so my IP address is different from the country of my account, and on top of that, I use a VPN (whose IP is from yet another country), so there’s that. I thought about this, so I tried changing my IP using a different VPN, but that didn’t help. Next time, I’ll try disabling the VPN altogether to see if that helps. But this shouldn’t be an issue. I’ve redeemed games before in this way—no problem. In fact, I activated a key a couple of days before the currency switch, and it worked perfectly fine. But I don’t remember an instance after November 20 where I didn’t encounter the aforementioned error message. Like I said, it’s very strange.
Update #1: I made sure 1) the keys I was entering were correct and working; 2) used different browsers with removed cache; 3) tried with and without VPN; all of this to no avail. I even logged in to a different, unused account whose country is set to Russia, and I still get the same message.
Update #2: I found the culprit. In my VPN software, I’d excluded store.steampowered.com so as to always connect to Steam using my own IP address. Apparently, I can’t purchase or activate anything here (where I reside, in the Middle East), which doesn’t come as a surprise. As soon as I undid the exclusion, everything went back to normal.
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Yeah, that sound like the kinda thing that would trigger Valve's alarms. Steam attempts to track the physical location of a login for security reasons and I could see it preventing you from activating keys if the system thinks you're trying to circumvent region locks, specially if you been hopping across the world in a short period of time.
Good to hear you figured it out in the end.
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These news are VERY recent, so info is slowly dropping.
For now we have this: https://steamcommunity.com/groups/steamworks/announcements/detail/3728476412305766958
Edit: the info for users is now working too: https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/2720-4EC7-B95A-1D2A
The new pricing
goeswent live November 20th for the following regions:LATAM-USD Region:
Central America: Belize, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, Panama.
South America: Argentina, Bolivia, Ecuador, Guyana, Paraguay, Suriname, Venezuela.
MENA-USD Region:
Middle East: Bahrain, Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, Oman, Palestine, Turkey, Yemen.
North Africa: Algeria, Libya, Morocco, Tunisia, Sudan.
More definitive info on the new pricing schemes is available from steam.db: https://steamdb.info/blog/steam-turkey-argentina-usd/
Check the screenshot (thanks to AndyFrost for it) below for now, I'll make a proper chart later when I'm at the PC.
Thanks to Wasari for the table :)
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