Con: Trading culture/community

Fix: Remove trading :D (yeah, won't happen, but one can wish)

I don't get something about your first con... Origin's store tab (from the program) IS a web page, so is Steam community in the Steam program's tab, not sure why you'd want them in a diferent interface, "integrated"... that'll add extra and pointless work to staff IMO.

And about 4th con: Steam can't know how the redistributables check if they're installed or not and it just runs them, DirectX does check if it's already installed and finishes faster, unlike other redists... so, it's not really their fault because stuff requires other stuff, be glad they automatically run it so you're not puzzled why your game doesn't work.

And I want to add a few cons of myself:

• Steam support: acts like robots, barely reads your issue and mostly useless replies;
• Lack of sync-ing categories and favorites;
• Checking integrity of files is kinda useless, I'm better off reinstalling, it's more reliable;

But yeah, Steam is pretty awesome nethertheless.

SteamStore is a webpage and not integrated like Origin's store.

I don't get that, i can acces the store clicking on steam store.

for me move pro#4 to the cons list and con #1 to the pros

integrated stores...how hard is it to open a website and keep a client slimmed down as much as possible? why do people always want stores packed in with their game launcher? how often are you buying vs playing? (I am actually asking because I never understood this) (also I'm pretty sure steam has one?)

chat and community in my client...no. if I want those I'll open those. I don't need aim open in the background whenever I play civ. I hate websites with facebook connect and google+ too, and twitter "Share this" stuff. they just feel like more of the same in app. I'm fine with them on the websites but these things have their place and should stay there imo.

pro...staemworks mods, updates (in theory, but I must also list this as a con because I have no choice in the matter which gets annoying), library all in one place( ex: for easy reinstalling if changing computers ect), achievements(fun when done right not as epeen), and I suppose its invasive overly connected nature makes multiplayer easy, and it often has sales(so it can take over the market, once its feeling comfortable in its size/power I'm sure those will dwindle) (and steamgifts i guess counts as a pro since I like the forum, but that wasn't their doing so doesn't count)

cons...everything else. the chat stuff which i never use because I always keep it set to offline because I am forced to connect to it when I connect to a game and don't wish to be bothered if I forget to turn it off, unless its multiplayer I neither need or want a friends lists integrated with my game for no reason, I don't need/want my play time tracked(and so I almost solely play offline mode), badges and cards are stupid, I don't like the store ads whenever i close a game, I hate that I can't play offline for more than a month before reconnecting online, I hate how even if I've installed the game I must play my first time online before I can use it offline, I hate the "americans can't own land in mexico" type of thing where I only really have a license that can be revoked rather than a game, if I want a store I'll go to the website, its so damned pervasive I can hardly buy a game without this account, having to open the client to play a game annoys me, steam support is a lie, updates and client updates cannot be avoided or delayed(I can disable them on an individual per game basis but there should be a blanket option), that I apparently don't get a cd key until I install the game the first time and they've sold games in the past without a stock of these so you have to wait with no warning that this was out of stock at the time, (can't view my cd key without the game installed even if its been installed previously(admittedly only ever been an issue with mount and blade which I decided to use off steam to be more comparable with mods so likely doesn't count)) (and I dislike the "appleish" fanatical fanboy cult thing it gets but that may not be fair to lay at steam's feet)

overall it just comes across like google+ infected my nintendo

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Cons:
-SteamOS
-Steam Box
-Family Sharing

Pros:
-Everything else

Cons: I dunno, I like Steam a lot and don't really have any serious problems with it. Mostly I guess the web browser sucks, which is only relevant when trying to shop within the actual client or trying to browse the web without alt+tabbing (I like to do that on loading screens :P). I think a lot of the complaints people have are overreactions along the lines of "OMG ITS DRM, U GAIZ ARE SHEEPLE DOWN WIT GABEN UP WIT GOG". An integrated Can You Run It would be great though.

Pros: I like the library. I refused to buy anything without a hard copy for a loooong time because I like collections. I like seeing all the games I have sitting on my shelves looking cool. With Steam, I not only have my collection, but can show it off to other people without having to clean up my house. I personally see nothing morally wrong with pirating games, and without Steam would probably be doing so, simply because I've always felt that in cases when I could either buy or pirate, I was paying for the added bonus of having all the nice physical things.

The "community" stuff is nice. Being able to see who is online, see who has the same games you do, etc. is great when you're looking for others to play with and don't feel like testing your luck in a random match. It also helps with purchases. "Do any of my friends play this game?"

The trading system is wonderful. Sure, some resellers are probably millionaires by now but they're getting games to people who either couldn't otherwise afford them or are like me and would probably just pirate them given different circumstances. Plus, playing video games to buy more video games is pretty much the best way you could ever spend your free time, am I right? :P Honestly I worry that the current system is too good to last but I hope there are others like me who would likely not buy Steam games if they couldn't use ingame currency to do so.

Even without the trading system though, the prices are much better than anything you can get from a brick and mortar store, especially factoring in the promos all over the internet and pay what you want bundles.

Okay, I have another suggestion. When you buy a Game on Steam you can pay a bit extra(of course completely optional) to purchase a Retail CD that comes with a Manual and have it sent to the address on file/or credit/debt card on file. What do you all think?

Con: Store search, Partial/Full controller support. Make this just one "Controller Support" category and have it listed on the game if I can use a controller to play it without downloading bullshit like Joy2Key. As it stands, it's a huge pain in the ass to search for games that support a controller.

Biggest con of all

Can't fucking activate keys in browser

Pros - Good interface , Sales
Cons - THE GOD DAMN STEAM.EXE USING UP ALL MY BLOODY RAM .. >.<

Add more currencies for payment.
More responsive support, transparency in communications.
Fix Backup feature.
Maybe a revamp/cleanup of the community section, making it a bit more intuitive and less cluttered (while i don't usually check it, everytime i do it's a clusterfuck of information).

I have discovered biggest con when I realized the future of my Steam account. It will get out of date sometimes or it will shut down eventualy, so what am I going to do with it? Now I have 3222$ worth account, do I have to just throw it away and forget about all that money I spent?

+fun
-addiction

6: Okay, I have another suggestion. When you buy a Game on Steam you can pay a bit extra(of course completely optional) to purchase a Retail CD that comes with a Manual and have it sent to the address on file/or credit/debt card on file. What do you all think?

Very bad idea. Steam is a Digital store, so a retail is against the concept of the store.

7: The features of "Enhanced" Steam in Steam Client showing the lowest price..users...etc..

Some of the features in enhanced Steam are great, but the price related things are and will remain fan made. Valve is not going to say to you "hey look, in GOG the price is cheaper, buy from them and not for me"... plain illogic.

pros

steam gives me games

cons

steam original look is ugly.

TL:DR

Pro's:

1. Achievement and Cards systems.

2. Chat with your friends, even while playing.

3. All your games in one place, and very easy to install.

Con's:

1. Lose the DRM, Steam! The option to back up what I've paid for would be great.

2. Offline mode is a ^@$#%# to set up properly and if you don't have internet to start with one day, forget about it.

3. Quite a bit of our owned games don't even show up, say for sync lists. This is especially true of most DLC.

Suggestions:

1. How about we're able to stream the soundtracks we own on Steam, instead of only being able to download them?

2. About your mentioned suggestion, pertaining to physical content such as discs, printed manuals, etc. I think that's a great idea, however I think that should be included in the price of the games. You pay $60 for a brand new game, what do you have to show for it? That's a lot of money.

If I think of more later I'll edit. :)

I basically only got Steam to play Dota 2 when it was in Beta, so for me it was something I just had to have in order to play it, and only make use of some things just because it's there. I have, however come to like a lot of the features it provides. So with that in mind, here are my personal pros and cons:

Pros:

1. In-game overlay: I use it mostly for the chat (the steam chat has replaced any other messenger I've used in the past because of this), but it's also really useful for game guides. Also, screenshots are integrated, so I can take screens

2. Games with the Friends system integrated: Being able to invite a friend to a party through the steam Friends system is really convenient.

3. Game library: I love the fact that I can add all the non-steam games I have installed on my PC to my Steam library, so I can have everything in one place. Plus, I get to use the ingame overlay in them as well when I play them.

4. Steamworks, I like that Steam has a system in place that encourages community-made mods.

5. Ingame item drops: The items enrich the game, the ability to sell them on the market allows you to play a game and sell items from it in order to buy other games. What better could there be?

6. Integrated store and community pages: You seem to misunderstand the term 'integrated', the store is integrated because it opens in the client, and the styling/colours match that of the client itself. Honestly, to have it any other way wouldn't make any sense. A whole lot of extra coding for what exactly? The only thing they could do is possibly improve the load speeds, but then again it loads a lot faster for me than the iTunes store through iTunes, not sure if that's just my issue though.

Cons:

1. Can't add non-Steam games to a public library: The ability to add CD-keys is rather misleading, I have a number of hard-copy games (available on Steam) which I have tried to add to Steam and none of the CD-keys worked, yet I was able to add one of my EA games to Origin with no issues. I know now that hard copies of games have to give you a key specifically for Steam, but when I joined Steam, there was no way of knowing that and nowhere in their FAQ did it say that. It's not a big issue, but I would like to have the all games that I own on my Steam account instead of having to buy them again just to have it on Steam. I don't mind if I had to forfeit auto-updates or being able to download the game whenever I want, I just want the game on Steam, preferrably with my hours played.

2. Steam levels rely too much on spending money on Steam: Once you've got the community ambassador badge, it seems you have to pretty much spend money for any more. The trading card system is a nice idea, but only getting a number of card drops equal to half the total needed to craft a badge when you've actually bought a game is really a dick move. Yes, I know you're eligible for booster packs after you've got all the drops, but I think for a game you bought, you should get drops equal to the amount needed for a set. They're trading cards, so you should be able to trade your duplicates for cards you don't have and make a set. Considering to make a level 5 badge you need 5 sets, I think the current drop amount is terrible.

3. Steam support: They are far too slow to respond, they need more staff, and at that, more helpful staff. When I first tried to buy games on Steam, Half Life Complete and FF VII were on sale on one of their 'Weekend Deals', I tried to make a payment through the client only to get a message along the lines of 'An Unexpected Error has occured, please try again later or contact Steam support if the problem persists.' So I contacted them about it and they only got back to me about a week later, only to say something like 'try making the purchase through a browser and contact us again if you have a problem with that', not even acknowledging that there is a possible problem with the system in the client. I couldn't make the purchase I wanted because the deal was over and I certainly wasn't going to try purchasing them at full price just to see if it worked through the browser. I encountered the same problem later on trying to buy the Tomb Raider Collection about a month or so later while it was on sale, but tried through a browser and it worked fine, so there's definitely something wrong with the payment system within the client, and it hadn't been fixed. (no idea if it's fixed now, as I go straight to the browser when I want to buy something now)

In response to your cons:

1. Other than the issues I've had paying for games through the client, as I mentioned above, it makes more sense for it to display the webpage through the client, and it IS integrated. The way it looks, you can hardly tell it's a webpage because it fits in so well with the client, just the browser-like interface at the top gives it away.

2. I don't see why this is a con, it makes only sense that you need to be online to see the news.

3. On the page where it asks for your DOB, it tells you that they don't store the data. The client does however seem to remember mine so I don't need to re-enter it every time, of course I have no idea if this happens for everyone.

4. This is actually something I think is necessary. Every game I can think of that I have installed off Steam runs a direct X installer somewhere during the installation of tha game. As someone before me said, running the Direct X installer is the only supported way to check for a particular version of direct X, and some games use a modified version of it which would need to be installed regardless. The check is only done when you play a game the first time after installing it, and checks to make sure you have all the software components necessary to run the game, so it's really not an issue at all in my opinion.

5. I don't see why it's complicated, I guess it is set up a little differently than what you might see on a gaming forum, but honestly, it's not hard to figure out. The only issue I've had is removing a user from a blocked list (hit block instead of ignore), but I managed to remove the blocked user after some exploring.

Your suggestions:

1. I like the CYRI suggestion. I have a PC that'll run pretty much anything I throw at it in high graphics, but it will be useful to those who aren't so lucky. Yes, the publisher's specs aren't always that accurate, but throw in a disclaimer and it'd be a good feature to have.

2. Covered above. Getting rid of the Pre-game check is a bad idea.

3. Covered above, it's integrated well in my opinion, and I actually rather dislike Origin's store.

4. I rather like the idea, but someone before said that it was a tried and failed idea.

5. I wouldn't personally use it, because I actually like the default, but others might like it.

6. Kinda defeats the purpose, you can already use the backup system to back your games up to discs (Steam can divide the backup files by CD, DVD or custom sizes), it'd probably be cheaper anyway in many cases to buy the game from a retail store that comes with a Steam key.

7. I personally only use Enhanced steam to check if the prices in other stores are cheaper, which is certainly not something Valve wants to put into Steam. Other than that, the 'buy wishlist' thing from Enhanced Steam would be neat, also the price per on the multipack games would be nice.

8. Modding the Steam client I think would be a bad idea. The Steam client handles sensitive information, having mods would open it up to risks. Cosmetic stuff like skins is fine, but allowing people to mod its behavior is a definite no-no.