Are manners important?
Are you aware that OP was last online 2 years ago?
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It always baffles me that people are necroing such old threads to get on a Whitelist/ group.
Another one is groups with this rule: You must maintain a positive group ratio (more games sent then won).
Which is mathematically impossible.
How is the cat doing by the way?
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More sent then won. In other words people as a whole need to sent more games then there are won inside the group. Which is not possible.
To make it simple, there are only 2 people inside the group. Both make a ga and the other one wins, so they have both 1 won, 1 sent.
However, you need to have a positive ratio more sent then won.
Like 2 sent 1 won or higher, but then the second member is at 2 won, 1 sent.
To fix this, the second member needs to make 2 or more ga to be in compliance with the rules again.
But then the first member is at 3 won 2 sent. Now he needs to make at least 2 Ga, you have an infinite loop that cant be resolved.
If you cant be at 1:1, there will always be somebody in the group, being in negative because otherwise the math does not work out.
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I see, yeah that makes sense. In order for it to work most groups allow users to have some amount of negative value, and it just tends to work itself out.
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More sent then won. In other words people as a whole need to sent more games then there are won inside the group. Which is not possible.
To make it simple, there are only 2 people inside the group. Both make a ga and the other one wins, so they have both 1 won, 1 sent.
However, you need to have a positive ratio more sent then won.
Like 2 sent 1 won or higher, but then the second member is at 2 won, 1 sent.
To fix this, the second member needs to make 2 or more ga to be in compliance with the rules again.
But then the first member is at 3 won 2 sent. Now he needs to make at least 2 Ga, you have an infinite loop that cant be resolved.
If you cant be at 1:1, there will always be somebody in the group, being in negative because otherwise the math does not work out.
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Usually, you have some time to get your negative gift difference up again. Some will not manage and will leave the group (if they realize themself) or be kicked. As soon as that happens a couple of times, some members will have a positive ratio from there on.
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Or does that group have a rule to enter all giveaways?
No, but I took 1 on 1 to make my example easier to explain.
It does not matter if a group has only 2 or 1000 members. My mathematical point still stands.
Oppenh4imer (little bit up), stated how it worked in the long run.
People leave because they cant maintain ratio, so the senders have a positive and the balance for the rule is achieved.
However that sets people up for failure from the beginning. (that they have to leave the group at some point) because they cant keep a positive ratio, be it 1 game won to much or more.
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Thanks, a handful sometimes, but also some stupid things happened (my own fault, but also not knowing how my new meds would impact me with other things). Now for 2 days she likes to use the litterbox as a sandbox, play in it, lay in it, just clean or dirty, she doesn't mind.
She doesn't mind i got germphobia and i do mind, not really sure what to do about it, saying keep away from it, only could make her drop the litterbox completely.
I wish there was more, that someone actually would help me with that balcony (had a promise from my niece which doesn't try to reach contact), i want a laserpen (yeah some say it can risk their eyes, others say it's cute, i do have a lot of wood too that could be scratched).
I feel she can only do so much (limited) in this small living room, at first i wanted to move the litterbox to the bathroom but i think it's better to clean it there so the bag with dirty litter is there, not to mention the wet floors (and my ventilation system need to get repaired so especially now it won't dry). Sometimes l let her in the washing room, sometimes she likes the spinning of the washing machine, climb on things there.
I wish i could give her more attention then i sometimes am able, like we had a few mornings (even before my coffee/tea which i need to wake up). And then she sat before my keyboard, made the boundaries with a towel. But i like her to sit here, and if she needs to use the litterbox then by all means let her, but no she has to use the litterbox first and then wants to sit with me.. in which i think she gave up.
And my couch is against the wall (which she has taken over and sleeps on at night, i need a cabinet to put the tv on and then i can move the couch in the center) then i can watch tv f.e with her, have her on my lap, she can climb that cabinet, but money..
I know definitely in march (i know it's a long way) and i shouldn't have done it in the first place, but i thought let me watch some before i go to bed, but if i remove my tv package that would save me 825 euro a year (luckily i am now getting the first 9 months at a discount). That would actually be money better spend and to save up for things much more important.
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"Now for 2 days she likes to use the litterbox as a sandbox, play in it, lay in it, just clean or dirty, she doesn't mind."
Yeah that's a real conundrum, would love to give advice on this, however I have no clue what to do with it.
825 tv package, that's Telephone, Tv and internet together?
Because I have 600 and for me its my home internet and my mobile (unlimited) subscription.
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You can try training her to use the toilet. I can't give you much advice on that since all of my cats are seniors and too used to the litter box. I have my litter boxes out on my balcony so it gets sunshine and ventilation. It's my best and cleanest option since i live on the 20th floor.
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I think that's going to prove difficult, yes i seen clips where cats and dogs can do it, but i think that can only be trained when they are atleast 1 year. Also in my toilet the water/splash ratio is pretty awful, i mean like if you go yourself, lets say it just splashes back at you at times..
I have no catproofed my balcony yet else she could have that space also (and it's almost august already) i asked my next door neighbour what fence she had in her mailbox (she didnt open the door) she never replied. I ask my niece, she doesn't reply.
But we had a record of half a year of temperatures below 20c, and our winters while not always freezing are cold, and our autumns stormy and rainy, so unless i also going to weatherproof it like a windshield, that's also unfortunately not an option.
My mom wanted her cats to stay indoors, but then fter 2 years she let them out, and now they "go" outside a lot more and thus use the litterbox a lot less, i am on the first floor, in a normal old apartment, you would have my own door and the front door, but there are 5! doors for fire hazard, so i can't make it an outside cat unfortunately, plus it being an industrial area (and hospital) i am afraid of the many cars too.
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Hello all you lovely people,
Unfortunately the last group i was moderator for has been disband and the group is no more
I really loved this group, and all of the nice members, and i am sad to see it go,
so i have made this group in the hopes of creating something similar, and i really hope i can do so.
Toxic Giveaways
Rules
if you comply with the rules and receive a friend request please message me so that i may add you to the group,
alternatively if i have not replied to you, its most likely because you have an extremely negative cv value.
if you have any concerns please don't
hesitate to let me know viva steam.
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