Who can tell me wich is better? (sorry for bad english)

I will tell you for the new Trine dlc.
just kidding. im kinda feeling overwhelmed by all that, thats like some work looking all that up...

Asbjorn, my husband builds and repairs computers. I had him look over the above information, and he believes the first listed computer with those specifications would be the best choice. Short story....get the first computer! :D Good luck!

For gaming, the first is better. Overkill on the ram, you won't even come close to using 8 gb of ram when gaming. And with the mass amount of money you're spending you really should include an SSD. You could also save a ton of money by going with socket lga 1155 instead of 2011. An i5 3570k and a z77 chipset board would save you ALOT of money and you would get identical gaming performance.

For gaming? Looks like your closer to Designing Games.

My thoughts:

CPU overkill. From the benchmarks I've seen the Core i5 3570K is about the same speed as the Core i7 3820 (often a little faster, sometimes a little slower). It also takes a lot less power, so will be quieter and save you on the electricity bill. So unless you're going to do heavy content creation, 24/7 video conversion or folding I'd suggest you move down a notch.

I'd go with an NVIDIA card. In the current generation they beat the AMD GPU's on power and they perform very well.

You'd really do yourself a service by getting an SSD.

Also, formatting your message will really help.

I'll have to agree with the previous posters. The first system is a little better but both are an overkill. You can find better ways to spend your money without noticing a drop in performance or maybe even see an increase in performance by going for a second GPU or an SSD drive.

at a glance probably the first but there is not much in it as others have said both builds are a bit overkill in some areas, 32gb of RAM :O

Christ, if I had half of either...

No offence, but if your going to be spending that much money on something at least learn to read/understand the specs, second opinion is good, but being well informed is always better.

When is world domination planned for?

To answer your question, me.

Go with cheaper.

next time just compare each spec seperately

It is better to buy a netbook and send me either video card. I'll make so many giveaways in a group that only has you in it. Xb

Whats your budget? These can both be improved.

Go with AMD if you want to save money and spend more somwhere else, same with ATI.