I'm of the same opinion.
But if this is serious, I don't care whether people support or do not support homosexuality. So long as that person isn't running around like a serial killer, offing gay people, each person is entitled to his or her own opinion. Who is to say homosexuality isn't evil? (Just playing devil's advocate.)
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I would say, "Okay, thanks for sharing. I'm going to go stand over there where people don't try to draw me into a conversation where the end result is that we still disagree."
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Yea, that sounds like a real-world answer. Ok, I get that you don't feel like anyone should be able to tell anyone anything on ethics. I see that. I was replying to CEO here and not you for a reason though. Trying to get him to think through his arguments.
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Well, that real world answer would be communicated less with words and more with a look of skepticism and annoyance.
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Oh, shit. You pulled the race card. Why is it that when anyone wants to talk about tolerance, we refer to black people. As if black people have a monopoly on discrimination.
In any case, it may be a horrible way to think, but who am I to tell people what's right and wrong? I haven't and likely will never earn that right. So long as their rights aren't being deprived, eh ... it's life. Some people are always going to hate you for no reason. Move along, move along ...
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I didn't pull the race card, I'm trying to demonstrate how 50 years ago you could have said the same thing about black people in america and nobody would bat an eye. Nowadays you'd get dirty looks at best, and get your ass kicked at worst. It's the same thing with gay people. For some reason people today think it's OK to bash or hate gay people. In 50 years, they'll get the same dirty looks.
You have a right and an OBLIGATION to tell people it's wrong to discriminate. It's morally reprehensible if you see someone ridiculed based on their race, age, gender, etc... and do nothing to help them. Discrimination based on things a person can't control is wrong, period. Ask any expert on ethics and I'm sure they'll agree
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To stop an injustice, agreed. But to go around telling people that their beliefs are wrong (which you have not done; just saying) is a gray area that I'd prefer not to tread.
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I agree that it's probably not the best thing to just tell someone that they're wrong but I see no problem with challenging their beliefs. People can only grow when they question their own beliefs. If I'm the one that forces them to start questioning, then so be it. That being said, I'm not going to say anything if the person keeps their beliefs to themselves. Once somebody opens their mouth they've made their beliefs public and therefore subject to public scrutiny.
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That is a very fair point regarding acceptable circumstances for such a discussion. I would agree. Well said.
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I dont mind black people but i dont actively go after them, actually i dont actively distance from them either. Yet I dont feel its wrong to say you dont like black people, if it doesn't have any aggressive connotation of course, sure its discrimination, but its not like people don't discriminate based on a lot of factors (too ugly, too pretty, too rich, too poor, too fat, meh). ("whos to say being black isnt evil?" is funny though haha)
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I'm sure most people would agree racism is morally wrong, as is any discrimination based on age, gender, disabilities, etc.
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Nothing is inherently evil about not liking or supporting homosexuality, correct. The internet just likes pitchforking though, and that's where two odds meet. This applies to racism too - we can't help being racist if we were born in a racist culture. You can't change minds that easily.
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here the reason why: we talked about reason why I hate gay people. its just my fucking opinion and they went far. i am done with steam gift. thats all. name calling me a bigot because i feel unconfortable around gay people.
Bigot - a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
So you're intolerant towards a group of people based on your own prejudices, but don't want to be called a bigot? Ok, then I want to kill people but not be called a murderer.
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If you are going to use the definition, as least use it. At what point did he say that he was intolerant towards gay people. He said that they make him feel uncomfortable.
Hell, I feel uncomfortable when I am browsing porn and some gay porn pops up, I guess that makes me (and 99% of all other straight males) a bigot.
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Intolerant - unable or unwilling to endure
He's said several times that he hates gay people and tries to avoid being around them.
i.e. Intolerant
Maybe you should learn what words mean before you try to tell someone to learn what words mean. And there's a difference between "uninterested" and "intolerant". Though I might argue that it is a small part intolerance that makes you feel that way when seeing gay porn. Don't really want to get into that though, seeing as how it's pretty off-topic.
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I don't feel uncomfortable when I see, I'm just not interested. I'm also not interested in many other types of porn, such as anal sex. Doesn't mean it makes me uncomfortable when I see it.
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Oh, I guess you aren't aware of the HUGE scandal going on in the catholic church right now where priests across the world have been accused of raping children and upper members of the church have paid people to keep it quiet, refused to investigate or cooperate with investigators, and just generally tried to hide it.
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That's called being a teenage, heterosexual male.
Edit: In case you were wondering, the heterosexual male's perspective doesn't change on the latter point as he grows beyond his teenage years.
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False. Some males do not enjoy lesbian porn. I'm sure some females like gay male porn, and others do not. It's just a preference.
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There is absolutely no straight man that does not like lesbian porn. Sorry, you must be gay...not that there's anything wrong with that ;)
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"I'm leaving steamgifts because its community doesn't share my opinion on homosexuality."
I don't understand.
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are you retarded? he didnt call you homosexual, he's commenting on your opinion about homosexuality. implying that "i am straight" as a defense to his paraphrasing of your words is absolutely hilariously sad.
People are likely calling you a bigot as its definition implies "A person who is obstinately or intolerantly - etc etc"
furthermore, hypothetically you could just not be in the steam gift group chat(i never am). Even then, there is no reason to be even slightly homophobic in today's society.
Odds are that during your college life, you will likely be around many homosexuals, and its very likely that you have a homosexual friend.
I love my girlfriend more then i ever thought i could, but i don't see why homosexual men or women cant be equally happy as i am. Oh well, i guess i benefit from not falling into any ridiculous stereo types.
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This is off-topic, but nice monster hunter avatar :D
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You won't always be able to stay away from them. You may need to work as a team. You can think whatever you like, everybody is entitled to their personal opinion and beliefs, but at the end of the day, it will end up backfiring on you. Whether or not somebody decides to have sex with a man or a woman, they are still a human being. Why should they be judged for something they had no choice in? It's just wildly unnecessary.
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If thats the case why does everyone on this thread know you hate them?
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If it makes you feel better I promise not to grow a penii and assault you.
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Because talk of hate leads to hateful talk, and hateful talk gets you suspended.
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I forgot where I read this, but there was a research test on homophobes and non homophobes. The test was that each group watched gay butt sex and homophobes were more turned on by the gay sex than non homophobes.
What does that say about you? :O
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i am done with steamgift. i wont be cocomngg back thanks for tthose fun time. i am sick of you people in group chat. i have a better life to complete college instead of coming here. sorry guys i am just sick of it.
here the reason why: we talked about reason why I hate gay people. its just my fucking opinion and they went far. i am done with steam gift. thats all. name calling me a bigot because i feel unconfortable around gay people.
Edit: i am fucking straight so knock it off. i am going back to steam forums.
Edit: okok i hear everyones opinion..but i am telling i just wont support gays. its because they are different..and i am telling you i would be friends with them..i understand being gay is the same thing as being human you cant just hate people. But what i am saying is that I JUST DONT like them because he is a guy and i am a guy. but he likes GUYS! i think thats gross..i understand you cant just hate people because hes GAY!!! i did say i hate them yes..but i also said i would be friends i JUST dont like them and wont be around them much.
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