[PSA] Trade hold duration will be increased to 15 days

I'm still refusing to get the @*&% mobile authenticater! Bring it on Gaben, it will take more then that to break me!

Thats complete bullshit and i friggin despise the Mobile Authenticator. On the bright side, ill be making more money from cards now that some users have to wait 15 days to post them on the market
I wont lie, they are being stubborn with these freakin thing and it's completely unfair to everyone who doesnt own a recent phone...and it's so pointless, i guarantee people will find a way in a couple months, with emulation or something of the like

WAIT, THIS HAPPENS IF YOU DIDN'T GIVE YOUR PHONE NUMBER TO VALVE ALREADY... I'm safe :)

Do you guys remember the days when we liked Valve? The days when we we're proud to spit on scum EA and Ubisoft?
Well, the situation has changed. No more good guys anywhere. GUCK YOU FABEN!!!

What the fuck.

Didn't they add the 3 day thing recently?

Are they just trying to force us to use the mobile thing?

EMULATORS:
http://www.bluestacks.com/ for Android
http://www.xpadian.com/ for iOS

do people need to use authenticator EVERYTIME they open Steam?

Valve = cancer GG

So every time I want to list something on the steam market, will I have to boot up their stupid-ass app and type in the stupid-ass code? Cuz I already have to fucking do that every time I LOG IN TO MY ACCOUNT and doing it EVEN MORE would be FANTASTIC.

Just so you guys know, the reason for the restriction ain't that much about account security (or the extremeness of it), but the reason that too many people are abusing the system (faking account hijack to get duplicates for their items, sometimes up to few thousand dollars worth of inventory).
So valve wants to stop people from abusing the duplicating system, but if they do so, people who genuinely got hacked would complain alot.
Thus, steam made this 'super ultra secure' system, so that they have the excuse to remove the duplicating item thing, so those who are hacked cannot blame valve and request for their items back.

Jesus fucking Christ, that's just so infuriating! I'm so mad right now, jeez. Even the 7 days hold has been a fucking pain in the ass.

They could easily solve the duplication issue by putting a 15 day hold on anything that gets transferred from person to person. Trade some stuff to someone? It gets put on hold for 15 days. Send a gift to someone? Gets put on hold for 15 days. This would not allow someone to transfer stuff from hijacked account and then sell it off to a dozen other people for at least 15 days. With this speed bump it would mean that they could easily reverse a trade on their end without worry that a dozen other people get screwed out of legit trades. After 15 days, if no report of a hijacked account has been sent in, the trade can no longer be reversed. And yes this would happen every time that same item is traded.

They could even have it so that, if both sides use the authenticator the 15 day wait is reduced to say 5 days.and after 5 days. though this one is iffy, I don't know how good it would be.

My phone was JUST stolen -_- timing

I use a Sidekick LX, from 2008, because I love the keyboard. Honest, that's what I use. It still has the original battery and it doesn't hold a charge for very long at all... but I love it, even though I was never a teenage girl (I'm an old guy). I really don't want, and really don't need, a smartphone. I txt on the Sidekick, and use my computer for every single other thing. I'll get new computer hardware, or even a new battery for the Sidekick, before I get a smartphone.

I certainly don't expect them to make anything able to run on Danger OS (Sidekick's OS). But I'm very upset that they're making it a serious hassle for anyone that doesn't use Android or iOS.

Steam Support will no longer restore items that have left accounts following a successful trade or market transaction (a process that previously created duplicates of original items)

hhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

so this means if i trade a game for tf2 keys, and later the gift disappears from my account, i won't get back my keys?

that sounds like getting scammed twice, first by the trader, then by valve...

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Now I'm so glad that I ended this bullshit and implemented my own 2FA into ASF, so I don't need to deal with all of that.

I'm even wondering if I shouldn't create another app which will purely be used to workaround all this shit for people without smartphones.

well i added this moblie crap so i can sell items at the market , the good news in case someone wonders any computer you log into with your steam account that you have set as secured (meaning remember my password) wont ask you for the code so even tho i have it i will never use it cause i never log from anywhere else , wehn you make a trade instead of email you get this sms crap i guess and you really need to remember to deactivate the app if you change phone and write down a recovery code in case you lost your phone (that recovery code can be a headache for messy poeple so be careful you need to adopt a way to write down this and never lose it)

Trade hold on news : 15 days
Trade Hold on market announ : 3 days
@_@

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Makes switching from Windows phone to an Android a 100x better. :D

wow man, steam is determined to kill the trade market or force everyone to use a phone.

What qualifies as Long time friends ?

I honestly dont mind it ... hopefully that helps combat scammers and such ...

It's going to apply to the market too, which is just stupid. Guess I'm going to have to find some way to use the authenticator (because GG Windows Phone).

My issue is that users without the authenticator will have to wait 15 days, even just to sell cards. That means that suddenly my market listings would be 15 days out of date by the time they went live. Good job, Steam.

Smartphones are highly unsecure....

walking on eggshells.

Welp it looks like I'm completely done with trading.