Just trying to get a lay of the land on which way SG leans as a whole. It's a yes/no question that you can answer anonymously. Keep the comments civil or don't comment!

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Do you like Donald Trump?

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As a person, president, meme? Be specific.
Also what's the point with this? You know a majority don't like him, next gonna be putin?

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It's a yes or no question. I was curious about those who are active in the community about which way they lean on this question, nothing more, nothing less

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I don't get it.He got elected. Election works by majority. But majority doesn't like him? How that even works? It seems at least majority of US electors do like him or used to like him or did I miss anything?

Unless another candidate is disliked even more, but in that case I wouldn't understand how US people picked yourself parties that can only bring forth such disliked people as candidates.

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well the majority of the people didn't vote for him, rather it was the Electoral College's vote that got him in?

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You should research the US electoral system. Trump had around 3 million votes less than Clinton.

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How else would you have done it?

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Well, having a bunch of political leaning options would help. Maybe a political compass to consolidate the terms and make sure we're all on the same page.

I mean, asking if you like a president with notoriously low approval rates is not too useful since people will start interpreting it incorrectly, finding biases where there are none and making baseless accusations and so on. Plus, a general political survey is useless if the basis of the question is about something that's very polarizing.

Of course, in the end, no harm no foul. Just that I'd say the results here have literally no meaning on nothing due to how shaky the base of the question is.

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There is no way that I could be inclusive enough to list out every political philosophy that I could think of and if people don't identify with the ones I posted they wouldn't vote and if they identified as more than one I would also be screwed. But more importantly, I don't care what everyone's individual political philosophy is. The only thing I'm interested in is whether or not sg likes trump

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I am not american but I like Trump for the meme value. Politically, I cannot understand how he got to his current position, he is totally out of place

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if by out of place, you mean out of this world, then yeah...he is probably an alien

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Politically, I cannot understand how he got to his current position, he is totally out of place

A large part of it boils down to limitations in our political system, mostly the fact that it is a bi-partisan system as opposed to one with lots of small parties. Since its only 2 parties and they both put forth highly polarizing candidates... well, he arguably was slightly "better" to rural citizens who often feel politically neglected. I think it was more a surprise to the urban citizens who thought his opponent would be practically uncontested. In order words, he was to at least some people's view, the lesser evil.

I'm independent and always surprised as hell when the 2 parties pick such polar candidates because to my way of thinking it seems like a no-brainer to just pick more moderate candidates and get more swing votes. Unfortunately, I seem to be a political minority in this country.

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Hillary was extremely moderate from a policy standpoint. She just happened to also be one of the least charismatic/likeable politicians in the country and was so sure she was going to win that she forgot to campaign.

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I didn't consider her to be so but could just be my demographic. But I can see your point, especially standing her stated campaign goals against say Sander's. But definitely felt she was way more polar than someone like Andrew Yang (who I was disappointed to see drop out).

For me, one major detractor is that I very strongly dislike the thought of ANY family getting in again... feels too dynastic for me. To be fair, I don't think Bush Jr should have been in there either but it's less about him/his policies as I don't like the same families getting in more than once (e.g. I think presidential term limits should apply to direct family members too not just the individual; e.g. individual presidents, their spouses* and their direct children at the very least. don't care about grandchildren as much since at least it spaces things out).

*with possibly an exception if there is a divorce and spouse re-marries but any exception would have to be written in such a way as to make gaming the system very difficult to do by simply getting a divorce on paper. and overall, i think i would prefer just not to have an exception.

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Reps didn't pick Trump and they didn't want him. He was an dark horse outsider who rode into the nomination on an overwhelming grassroots populist groundswell and a lot of media attention. Too bad Dems can't find a candidate that could do something similar. Oh wait...
The problem with moderates in the current political and economic climate where the middle class has been gutted and the working class is living on a precipice, is that they don't inspire people to want to actually go out and vote for them, because they know they are not going to do anything to help them. Except, of course, those who are enjoying the status quo.

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I cannot understand how he got to his current position, he is totally out of place

Because everyone else was somehow worse.

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i find him fascinating...is that a yes?

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I don't like Trump, but not gonna vote for Biden anyway.

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I am grateful that he won the presidency, 'cause he polarizes and so our politicians have a hard time at home beeing so friendly to the US under his rule.

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I thought his tweets were hilarious until I realized it wasn't a parody account so I don't know what you mean by like but it really doesn't matter anyway because we all know there are more important things than living.
I do wish he'd volunteer for that study about injecting yourself with bleach to see if that kills covid though. For the good of humankind.

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Its funny how he said that disinfectant knocks out the virus in a minute and if they could do something similar with injection inside the body so it knocks out the virus. Afterwards the media and other people goes mental and says Trump urges people to inject themselfs with bleach. Even if it was poorly worded you cant actually belive that is what he ment.

Its almost as funny as when he mentioned Chloroquine and som lady murded her husband with fish tank cleaner.

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Come on. He just says every silly thing that goes through his mind at the moment it comes up. It wasn't a joke. It wasn't mispoken.
He's just a narcissist and he actually believes he can come up with things nobody ever thought of, on his feet. And instead of shutting up, he just blurts it out because he also has an impulse control issue.

You can like him and hate liberals so much that you'd vote for a chimp with a GOP card but don't twist yourself trying to defend him, it's ridiculous.

I noticed you didn't find anything to say about the "there are more important things than living" blunder from the other dude though.

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Im not an american so I dont have any reason to defend him and its kind of hard for me to vote for him concidering Im not a US citizen.

I didnt read everything you wrote so I didnt respond to everything. And now when I read it I dont even understand what it means. Is it a tweet from Trump or what? Do you have a source?

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This must be the story you're referring to. I remember reading it last month.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/man-dies-after-ingesting-chloroquine-attempt-prevent-coronavirus-n1167166

Both the husband and the wife ingested Chloroquine; the husband died while the wife survived after being put in critical condition. There's no murder case against the wife, just an investigation into her medical history and her relationship to her husband for any foul play. And no, it's not funny. Someone died.

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Its not funny as someone died, its funny because of the underlying story. The media made it look like she was a Trump suporter tha took it because she belived what the president was saying. The truth was she was against Trump and have made several donations to the democrats.

The fish tank cleaner had "chloroquine phosphate" which isnt even the same. The husband was an engineer so it wouldnt suprise me if it was all made up and that the women gave it to him. If Im not mistaken it was hydroxychloroquine that was mentioned in the briefing so that sound even more like somehting else than whats in fish tank cleaner.

Im not pro or againt Trump and as I mentioned above Im not even american. But its hard not to hear news about what the media says, then you look at what actually happened and you just cant belive what they are talking about.

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lol, 5 blacklists and one less whitelist because someone thinks the media is a joke.

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Well, I would say yes in a way that all mainstream PC pro-SJW media in both USA and to a lesser extent EU go hysterical almost every time he says or tweets something and it's so hilarious to see. :D As for whatever he is doing a good job as the president or not, it's kinda hard to judge from across the ocean.

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:D

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It is often the case that the behavior of politicians is happy for one's country but unhappy for another.
Of course, the reverse is also possible. XD
In any case, if you vote on the earth, the opinions of people in a country with a large population will be the majority.
There seems to have been a plan to make Japan and South Korea a new commonwealth of the United States.
However, it was not done because it would make the Americans a minority.
It seems that "common ideas" and "ideas" are required to some extent in the actual operation of democracy.

In other words, "brainwashing" called "education" is common on earth.
In order to get out of the "brainwash" and think for yourself, it is necessary to understand the language and literature of other countries and pursue the facts of one phenomenon from multiple countries.
However, since my head hurts, it seems that many people live according to their surroundings.
As a result, humanity is lost.
That is the present day of the Earth Human Zoo.😉
👾Neil deGrasse Tyson: We could all be pets in an elaborate alien zoo | WIRED UK

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I find him equally fascinating and disturbing.

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Keep in mind how scientifically unreliable surveys are though.... aside from the obvious issues with non-random sampling across statistically significant demographics, surveys (in general) tend to "load" / "bias" the questions. This will drive away some people simply by reading it which further biases the responses. E.g. "Do you like Donald Trump?" is much broader and open to interpretation than say any of the following "Do you agree with Donald Trump's stated policy of reduced immigration?", "Would you potentially vote for Donald Trump in the next election?", "Do you like Donald Trump's personality?", or "Do you think Donald Trump's negative image in the media is deserved?"

I'm politically independent and don't really give a **** about party lines; honestly, I would prefer any option that got both republicans AND democrats both out of washington in favor of a larger diversity of smaller parties. not commenting on likelihood mind, just that it would be my ideal. but I do observe a lot of snap judgements based solely on his name (e.g. haven't been on tinder in awhile but there used to be plenty of "swipe left if trump" type comments... which IMO is incredibly shallow, does not factor in nuances, and is simply a reaction based on an irrational negative bias). FWIW, I could bring myself to vote non-extreme Dem like Yang; but even though I consider myself fairly progressive/scientific, I strongly disagree on a lot of the recent trends towards socialism, the overall approach to handling the racial divide (best way to fix in my opinion is to quit promoting ANY one race differently, that includes scholarships, grants, etc requirements... make it NEED-based dummies!), and the hysterical/fear-based anti-gun sentiments (even if guns were outlawed, terrorists would still use illegal sources or... drive vehicles into crowds, which has been done and is even more accessible than guns could ever be). When I dwell on the details most of these seem to be feel-good dreams that only work if you ignore important details/give up existing liberties/don't dwell on future outcomes of traveling down those paths (for example, promoting black instead of white "because of minority"... now imagine a reversed racial makeup and you would have very similar problems in reverse... because the root of the problem is not RACE, it's DIVISION itself. and by promoting any one group or placing that group differently, you create more DIVISION). As for socialism which is a drastic change, I would prefer to explore less drastic changes such as removing government protections/advantages for ologopies (e.g. caps on CEO/board member salary + benefits, corporations are NOT treated as individuals, no direct-financed corporate lobbying - maybe implement a mandatory lobbying pool to disburses all lobbying funds equally, etc) to move us from a highly-bastardized Capitalist society to more of a heavily regulated free trade one.

I am pro-choice/pro-marijuana/would like to see some basic healthcare availability/etc but i can still admit that he has some valid points (e.g. overly biased media) regardless of what I think about him as a human-being. I also have to wonder, how much worse would the initial COVID-19 outbreak have been (for the US) if someone like Hillary had won the last election and kow-towed to all the open-door policy stuff on immigration / didn't have all the pressure on vs china?

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Good comment, and I agree with most of your positions. Do you "like" Trump doesn't really answer any questions about the political process, and reflects how US politics has become a cult of personality / team sport. As for Trump's positions and actions, I disagree with more than I agree with, but the reality is a lot more nuanced than the "team red vs team blue" narrative.

I agree with you that we need more independent candidates and third parties, because despite all the cries of partisanship politicians always seem to come together when it comes to going to war, violating our civil liberties, or passing a new massive spending bill. This whole "voting is your civic duty, you have no right to complain if you don't vote, etc etc" mentality is pushed on us to give us the illusion of choice, and that we live in an actual democracy instead of an oligarchy.

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I agree with you on political views. It seems everyone is throwing a blanket agreement onto everything the people are saying depending on which party they belong to. That's dangerous and counter-productive. Bi-partism is a huge problem in the US and it facilitates a level of corruption in both parties that is troubling.

Regarding pressure against China though, well, the US has been contaminated, like everyone else, and walls, pretend tough stance against immigration and hostility against China (to whom Trump's company owes a lot of money) is not exactly changing anything.
I don't like Clinton either but I hardly think anyone could have done a worse job than Trump so far.

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Regarding pressure against China though, well, the US has been contaminated, like everyone else, and walls, pretend tough stance against immigration and hostility against China (to whom Trump's company owes a lot of money) is not exactly changing anything.
I don't like Clinton either but I hardly think anyone could have done a worse job than Trump so far.

Right, my point wasn't that isolationism would prevent infection; more to compare the degree to which the infection would likely spread in the very initial phases with more restricted vs more unrestricted policy. I wasn't really even trying to focus on Clinton/Trump or which would do a "better" job but just which would be more likely to have a closed door foreign policy and the (unintended) positive that it likely ended up being.

At this point, I think it highly likely that there will be multiple phases and it will eventually be a moot point, but during the initial phases, I believe the more time that can be bought for developing vaccinations/mitigation plans, the better.

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At this point, I think it highly likely that there will be multiple phases and it will eventually be a moot point, but during the initial phases, I believe the more time that can be bought for developing vaccinations/mitigation plans, the better.

I totally agree. I actually think that if governments had reacted faster and quarantined anyone coming back from China during the outbreak there (that lasted almost 7 weeks before any case was found elsewhere I believe), and closed borders, we wouldn't be in the situation we are now. The problem is all the extreme right politicos were screaming racist BS so all the other politicians were more worried about their image than about doing the logical thing.

Now we're in the confinement phase and yes it's going to create massive repercussions on the economy but there isn't a choice moving forward.
And we were quite lucky that Covid is a "mild virus". If the pandemic was an ebola type virus, we'd have been all dead before any measures were taken.

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politicians were more worried about their image than about doing the logical thing.

:chuckles: yup, practically every politician ever

And we were quite lucky that Covid is a "mild virus". If the pandemic was an ebola type virus, we'd have been all dead before any measures were taken.

Yeah. Funny thing is, I was just reading the first book of the Fear Saga (evil aliens want to launch lethal virus worldwide) when all this went shit went down and was thinking, "this sucks but at least its not like the one in the book"

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Yeah. Funny thing is, I was just reading the first book of the Fear Saga (evil aliens want to launch lethal virus worldwide) when all this went shit went down and was thinking, "this sucks but at least its not like the one in the book"

I hear you! When it started in China, I was finishing World War Z. if you haven't read the book, it's not at all like the movie.
it's really more about how every country reacts to the discovery and massive spreading of this virus that turns people into zombies and how everyone starts pointing fingers at each other, and fails to control the global pandemic that starts in China and boy, how realistic the book is, for a book with zombies, it's truly scary.

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I actually never watched the movie or read the book. You're not the first to recommend it either lol. Maybe i'll grab a copy on audible later if the library doesn't have it :-)

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I didn't seek to answer any other question other than the one I asked which is "do you like him?" The questions you posted here have waaay more nuanced and varied answers than the one I asked which is binary with simple language. There are many people on sg where English is not their first language. I could have asked if people felt positive or negative about him instead, which would you prefer?

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The questions you posted here have waaay more nuanced and varied answers than the one I asked which is binary with simple language.

I disagree. The term "like" is highly subjective and very open to interpretation. Therefore, it is not simple (can be interpreted differently) and while at first glance it may seem binary (yes or no) it actually is not. For example, what if you largely dislike his administration and his personality, but do like some of what he has done / committed to? These are valid opinions but much of it is lost if you try to reduce that to a yes or no answer. What if you don't care? The poll has nothing for this answer). Without this, it just devolves into the "team red vs team blue" narrative that Andrewski commented on above.

My point is that over-simplification (yes/no answers, surveys in general, black vs white, republican vs democrat) almost never provides an accurate picture. Occasionally, it gets something right but in the end it misses a lot of details. I think of it a bit like a grainy low-res photo: the lower res it is, the harder time you have actually making out the real picture and seeing details as they truly are.

I can understand where you're coming from on the language aspect to some degree but my point still stands.

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Should I have phrased it to something with a spectrum of all of your feelings, policy decisions, memeability, etc etc together into "do you generally feel more positive or more negative toward him, all things considered." I really REALLY am not interested in reading essays about trump, positive or negative. If there was a way to disable comments on this post that I was aware of I should have done that. In the mean time, if you are still unhappy with the very straightforward way that I phrased this poll, which won't be used for science, market research or anything other than my own personal curiosity, please, by all means, abstain from providing an answer to the poll

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Please don't be offended, I'm not on the attack nor am I trying to be mean, I'm just commenting.

Obviously, you probably just did a quick post and didn't spend much time on it. Likewise, I was not asking you to have, as you say, "phrased it to something with a spectrum of all of your feelings, policy decisions, memeability, etc etc together into 'do you generally feel more positive or more negative toward him, all things considered.'" I'm not holding that against you; I'm stating that whatever the results, it's hard to make ANY sort of useful conclusion from them. At the time of writing, it says 239 votes (73%) "don't like" and 88 (27%) "do like". But that's not even all of SG and among those who responded, what are the odds that people who are frustrated and dislike trump are more likely to go out of their way to respond while people who don't care or feel put upon with trump-hate take one look at the poll question / current results, assume it's just another trump-hate post, and close the tab without voting? I have no idea, nor do I care the actual percentage. But I can see potentially throwing the numbers off. See here, while this survey does not have a leading question or obvious bias, it does have a subtle bias from points #4, #7, #8.

Even if you were just looking for a quick unofficial popularity poll, it would have helped if everyone knew that was the goal from the start. I do like that you've gone back and edited OP to at least try and say why you are asking, but I also think the poll options were way too limited. On something like this, seems like "don't care/potato", "mixed feelings", would have been very reasonable choices. Unless things have changed, I realize that SG also doesn't let you edit poll options (which is probably fair as it would invalidate previously cast results) so its impossible to add more options...

If there was a way to disable comments on this post that I was aware of I should have done that

Now that just seems extra silly. I mean, fine maybe you didn't like my comments. But my goal wasn't to rip on you, it was to point out that surveys are a flawed format (especially in science but even outside of it). But most of the flaws from surveys are due to the structure/choices/phrasing/what's left out (as noted in the link above). The first comment in this thread pretty much nailed it with "what's the point with this? You know a majority don't like him". Unless you're posting it on a pro-trump/republican/conservative forum, you can pretty much guess that right or wrong the majority of people don't "like" him purely from all the bad press. Even if you're just curious about folks on SG alone, percentages for/against shouldn't matter at all unless they're at least somewhat accurate. Otherwise, why even have them? So if none of that matters, then what other reason is left to post, besides seeing interesting comments? :-)

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  • “swipe left if trump" type comments... which IMO is incredibly shallow, does not factor in nuances, and is simply a reaction based on an irrational negative bias

there’s nothing irrational to finding a particular viewpoint abhorrent and letting it be known that you cannot accept it.
I find fundamentalists abhorrent and can’t find common ground with people who torture animals fir fun

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Sure; never said it was wrong, just that it was shallow. I mean, I get that people want to filter down the list of candidates and that dating site filters in general are very very poor, at least in IMO. Anyway, it makes an assumption that just because someone voted for an opposing party that (a) they liked the opposing and (b) anyone who votes for the opposing party could not have any other worthwhile qualities that could offset that negative.

For (a), there are lots of reasons to vote for an opposing party without truly being behind them and it can come down to minute, nuanced little things. I know plenty of people that voted for Trump who disliked him but disliked Hillary even more. I voted for Gary myself because I disliked both choices so I can understand where either side could be "voting against x" instead of "voting for y". But IMO the whole picking a side thing (not simply voting but drinking the kool-aid i mean) is a very divisive and short-sighted way of thinking.

(b) Call me Stannis Baratheon if you like, but I agree with his basic premise that a person's "good" and "bad" deeds are should be considered separately. Now, I don't think think voting for one party should be considered "good" or "bad" but again I don't think that a "bad" or "negative" thing necessarily offsets every "good" or "positive" quality about a person - it depends on the specifics. Everybody's got their own reasons and just because they're different from your own doesn't necessarily make them wrong/bad/evil/etc. If you have a parent/sibling/cousin/aunt/uncle/grandparent/etc that voted for the opposite party, should you stop loving them just because of that? By the same logic, what difference does should it make for a significant other or potential partner, as long as everything else is "good".

Now it's fine if you or they don't care and want to do so anyway. It's a free country after all and people can do what they want. But I think it's fair to say that reducing deeper meanings down to some boolean "checkbox" is also a bit shallow. Then again, tinder comments like that could also be thought of as a sort of "reverse checkbox" for anyone wishing to avoid overly political/shallow people lol. :-)

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I didn’t want to bring up a false comparison, but, I cannot fathom a neonazi having sufficient other good qualities for me to get past the fact they’re neonazis. Likewise, I can’t imagine ever being friends with a klansman.

While I can understand why some people would vote for Trump, that’s a long way off from being a MAGA hat wearing KAG raving, Trumper.

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Wow. You went right to neonazis comparison. I get there are some majorly bad people in the world, but if you assume the worst about people from the start, you'll "see" exactly what you're looking for. I don't support nazis (neo, original, or otherwise). I do feel that perhaps all the anti-trumpers overdo it a bit sometimes though.

As for not being friends with (neo)nazis, sure obviously most people would not (or at least not admit to it openly). But for the sake of argument, what about someone who was secretly a closet neonazi or even just a closet rasict? Quite possible that they'd never openly admit such a thing. But even someone being a "being a MAGA hat wearing KAG raving, Trumper" doesn't necessarily mean they're a bad person. As far as dating, sure, maybe you don't feel like listening to it. That's more than fair. Then again, I never saw anything like "hard-core trump fans swipe left" :-/ I guess what bothers me about it is that too many people eat up the media-based justification of "trump is bad". Ok, sure. So is Hillary. But rarely if ever do you see the other side represented... maybe if i was still on there i'd make a profile that says "if you're hard-core left or right, swipe hard left" lol.

And, yeah, I'm sure there are some MAGA folks that are grade A retarded but I'm equally sure that the same can be said of some folks on the far left as well. I don't think either side is entirely good or bad, they're just focused on different things. And some people on each side overdo it sometimes. At the end of the day, everybody's just people; no race, nationality, gender, party, etc has all good or all bad. If you have read a lot of literature, there are even cases where actual nazis were decent human beings who disagreed strongly with the system they found themselves a part of (I seem to recall something of the sort mentioned in Frankl's Man's Search for Meaning).

You ever imagine if you were raised under different place/circumstances/parents/values, that just maybe you might have a different outlook that the one you have now? There, but for the grace of god, go I kind of stuff. I think about that kind of stuff a lot in discussions like this. But it makes me really sad to see how divisive everything has become.

Anyway, it seems I'm wasting my time here so I'll just keep my thoughts to myself and let everyone enjoy their obtusely simplified black and white surveys and political sports teams mentalities.

Peace.

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Maybe you missed my opening sentence that I found it a false comparison, but the point stands.
I find extremists of any stripe to be raving lunatics, and generally don’t want anything to do with any of them.

Yeah, I can write paragraph upon paragraph on distinctions or ways to differentiate, but quite simply I can understand that some people can find no middle ground on the topics most important for themselves

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So you know, I enjoyed your posts very much. Some I agreed with, some I don't, but either way, what you have to say seems reasonable and fair-minded.

I think what too often escapes notice amid all the polarizing, identity politics is that it's all just really a smokescreen intended to distract us from the fundamental classism that now drives and divides American society. It's just bizarre to me how often this goes unacknowledged and how it's commonly agreed that half the country voted for Trump because they are racist, knuckle dragging idiots and that it had nothing to do with the fact that they were living paycheck to paycheck in shitty service jobs because the good manufacturing jobs had all been systematically shipped overseas, or that they'd lost their homes in 2008, or were working past retirement age because they lost their pensions too. Or simply that government, red or blue, had been literally selling their interests down the river for the past 20-30 years. it's really not all that surprising that when somebody, anybody, even a basically ineffectual narcissist who's not even a good businessman, comes along and finally acknowledges their plight and promises to help, it would prove to be a pretty powerful message. But for some strange reason, it's one that many have been tone deaf to. Actually not all that surprising considering that our legislature is packed with corporatist shills (we have only to look at our "bailout" package to see the incontrovertible truth of this), served by a largely corrupt and biased news media.

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KEEP THE COMMENTS CIVIL OR DON'T COMMENT

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Steamgifts, forum, Trump, political, offcourse that can't go civil.

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When you see the anti-quarantine people, Trump fits the country.
Country where people were eating tide pod, and will probably inject themselves with detergent and UV stuff.

American dream.

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Hard to disagree...

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I always thought presidents are just puppets to watch, and his antics were amusing enough that ill problably remember him more than the previous ones, so I'm glad they never taken away his twitter privilige and microphones record the golden nuggets he say

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But then you find out that being president gives him a lot of power.

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He said himself that he's a cheerleader. Don't think he's doing a good job at that either, but you'd think that a global crisis brings out the best in people especially if they are leaders of a country. Seems the 'best' we get from Trump is using words like 'powerful'. It's funny until you realise that he's the worst possible person to be the president of the United States.

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"When power consolidates it inevitably leads to hegemony."
What do you mean by this? My understanding of hegemony is that it is "assumed power". So you you a man in a Viagra commercial wearing a labcoat, a small part of you recognizes that doctors often wear those so this actor selling you Viagra on tv may be worth paying attention to. He wears the clothing of those with status, his opinion is more likely to be relevant to your decision on whether or not you trust him with your Viagra purchasing habits. We assume he has power when it is only an illusion. I also assume that the guy who played the Mountain on game of thrones would be more persuasive as a body guard than Michael bublee. In this case his hegemonic power has lots of other factors that back up real measurable power including his weight lifting records and enormous size. 😀

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No, just another puppet. This country was bought and paid for decades ago. I like some of the memes though

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There is no living person that I'm aware of that I would respect less than Trump.
That said, there are probably many other humans with equally bad character traits and as incapable to make sophisticated decisions on complex matters. He just happens to be their celebrity figleaf.

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"celebrity figleaf" is such a succinct and wonderful descriptor!

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I'm Scottish, so I didn't vote, but I wanna pop my moneys worth in. I genuinely think that if the man didn't talk as much as he did he would be a more respectable president. Talking isn't a bad thing, it's just usually what he says.
Like regarding the disinfectant, I as a Scottish person can spot sarcasm miles away as it's our third language. As a president however... Using suggestive sarcasm that can kinda be misinterpreted at a conference wasn't the best thing to do.
I mean people were in hospitals with issues after the tide pod meme went viral and people thought they were actually doing it, the disinfectant thing.. Feck..
(Mind you, tide pods do look kinda tasty. Like blueberry and orange syrups in disolving sugar bags)

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It wasn’t sarcasm
The problem is that he actually believes his own shite

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Whether he does or not in other cases I've seen this video clip hundreds of times from different angles, because our news wouldn't stop making fun of him, and I swear to jiggery he was looking at the health executive trying to "wink wink" "nudge nudge" as she shrunk into her seat.
My point was, regardless of whether it was sarcasm or not, he's a fucking president and it only took a meme to hospitalise people with the tide pods. If the american president suggests it (like the Chloroquine situation) people will do it because they are stupid.

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GOOD chance hes a pedophile

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I mean he doesn't treat people right, thats already step one. Then again, a lot of people dont.

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Likely half of Congress, at least. We really need to restart over this Democracy BS.

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I think honestly the man has the common decency to check that they girls are over age of 18... Which isn't much at his age.

But at least it's not clear unlike with the opposition and their favourite...

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/09/us/politics/trump-epstein.html and we have video of it....how the fuck is this human shart not in jail?

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I fully agree so much video evidence of clear sexual harassment in public of minors. But still guy walks free and people even vote for him... The moral degeneracy of USA can't be understated...

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over the last few years i actually really got to like and enjoy him. you always wonder with what he comes up next and how much damage he can do to basically everything before his time in office is over. we all know he was tested for genius and that test was positive so what can go wong? make 2020 great again!

you know what they say: loud people always put all their cards on the table because they love to hear themselves talk. you need to watch the quiet ones since they never give away more of themselves than absolutely necessary. and we all know how trump handles that side of business.

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Fuck no

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i hate him, so i guess my answer to this poll is "no".

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He's an idiot, but he was still a better option than Hilary. That said, I will not answer yes or no, because whether or not you like an individual is irrelevant when it comes to politics. Although people like to treat politics as a popularity contest, it should not be that way. You need to sift through all the bullshit, and come to a conclusion on who you think would be the least bad option.

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