Would all of you making puzzles on itstoohard.com with brute force questions like "guess a number between 1 - 10" or even whole puzzles based off of bruting answers and the like cut it the f*ck out already? The site's been abysmally slow for the past weeks, and it's only getting worse.

The questions are dumb, useless wastes of time, they don't form any kind of challenge other than seeing how patiently you can stare at a screen for ages, and they cost a lot of bandwidth per user, for nothing.

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... I'm not sure if this was an attempt to gain traffic.

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?????????????????

What do you even mean?

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  1. Not my site.
  2. No links included in my post whatsoever.
  3. Do you even know what that site is / does?
  4. Have you even bothered reading my post, at all?
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  1. Alright, didn't think it was yours anyway.
  2. Your subject is a link/reference for all to see.
  3. Haven't used it, don't care so much.
  4. I did, but considering the strange way you wrote your post, I believed it to be an attempt to drive traffic to the site. It's a bit strange to put a site title in the subject and go on a very small aggressive rant about stuff that doesn't have much to do with anything here.
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nearly all giveaway puzzles on these forums are itstoohard.com puzzles. to many forum goers, this site is a big deal.

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So, you don't even know the site, what it's for, thus have no way of understanding anything I said in my complaint about brute force questions, slow site, etc., and still post..

Smart.

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logic? what's that?

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What do you mean?

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it's a joke. add little /sarcasm/ tags around it and you'll get what i mean.

some puzzles are designed to be illogical and calling the creators out on it isn't going to help when they specifically want brute forcing (with the unintended side consequence of the site going down in the process). you aren't going to change their minds by posting this thread, unfortunately.

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Doesn't mean I can't shoot for the stars and dream, hope for both some semblance of a feeling of responsibility and respect for the site they're using to host their puzzles on, and to stop making useless time wasters with no thought required as "puzzles" ("illogical" doesn't have to mean brainless bashing with no thought behind it), does it now?

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I remember a time when I posted a key in there and it broke the site

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Which is the kind of thing that made me want to post this..

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good times!

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I agree. I mean, I hate so sound ungrateful to people doing giveaways, but there are few things more annoying than having to do a mind-reading puzzle, a brute force puzzle, or a puzzle where formatting has to be extremely precise when there could reasonably be a hundred possible ways to format a question. I know multiple forms can be accepted on there, so I wish people would take advantage of that. I make quizzes on Sporcle sometimes and I try to put in every conceivable way to word something.

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My main complaint was due to the bandwidth hit it causes on the site, slowing it down.

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It's not my site.. ?

And your idea is flawed to high heaven.

  1. Where would the site owner draw the line?
  2. This would require constant manual moderation of all puzzles, as well as manually checking bandwidth hit per page all the time.
  3. The only one ever deciding on whether to give out hints or other info. for their puzzles or not should be the makers themselves.
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"Only the owner knows".. And all the people seeing the site slow down to a crawl over the past weeks / months.

  1. Doesn't define when to start giving out hints. When is "a puzzle killing the site"? When do you start to give out hints? How far should the hints go?
  2. That's a way to see which puzzles are causing the slowdown. Not a way to automatically modify puzzles, add hints, whatever. All errant puzzles would still need to be looked at on a case-by-case basis, manually, thought about, and hints added, too.
  3. Too fuzzy. You shouldn't ever want to implement site features or policies that cause any kind of breaking of a very logical cardinal rule.
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Yeah, I hate those puzzles too. Especially the ones with annoying format.

If you know the answer, that should be it. You shouldn't have to jump through 9001 more hoops.

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That has nothing to do with what I posted. Whatsoever.

I was talking about brute force questions, and how they slow the site down.

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The weird formatted ones also require a bit of brute forcing/random guess. Which slows down the site. It's all relevant. :)

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I wasn't talking about questions with weird formatting, which cause a relatively large amount of guesses. I was talking about pure brute force questions that have no reason to even exist.

Although, yes, I do agree that it's annoying as hell when makers don't bother thinking of potential ways people might try to enter their answers, and only enter one very specific possible answer. 'Specially with answers that include dashes, weird spacing, etc.

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"they cost a lot of bandwidth per user"

"useless wastes of time"

If your time and bandwidth is that precious that neither are worth sacrificing to get a free game then don't do the puzzles. Simple as that.

Maybe you should be complaining to itstoohard about their site being slow instead. A couple of puzzles from SG users slowing down the whole site? I don't think that the 86,737 total players on that site are all for SG brute-force puzzles. They shouldn't allow them if it's causing issues with their website.

Whois shows that the site is hosted in Australia. That may be an issue too depending on how many hops you have to go through to get there.

The site is loading fine for me BTW and I rarely ever see a speed issue with them.

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He's not talking about the bandwidth cost to the user, but the cumulative cost of all those users to the host. The site is owned by an SG member, and as far as I know this is the only place it's in widespread use. He doesn't charge for the use of it, and I've never seen an ad on there (just double checked my script/ad-blocking add-ons to confirm I wasn't just missing them).

I'm not touching the "how dare you waste my time" side of the argument, but the OP makes a good point about the resources involved. It's not unreasonable to say that people should consider how much strain they're putting on the owner's server.

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Exactly. They're paying for it, hosting it, dealing with its' administration. The least you could do is have some damn respect for all that cost and effort, and make gracious use of the site, for actual puzzles, rather than brainless keyboard hitting exercises.

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Hops have nothing to do with the site taking up to a few minutes to load for people, when symptoms are in many countries all over the world. It happens all the time.

Check out this thread and try hitting Ctrl-F, then typing "slow", "load" and "can't". Enjoy.

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