Yay or Nay
I dislike the idea of forum being too much of just "bump" messages, no matter who said them. Just make a bump button like on trades for the people who don't really have anything to say.
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Yirg's suggestion could be useful sometimes I'm sure.
But forcing this on all threads would be going way overboard. And just imagine the confusion that would cause, and all the resulting "Why can't I bump my own thread?" threads.
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I've had to bump my giveaway topics before since even requesting that has left them without posts for hours, and the only people finding it at that point unlikely to bump it themselves.
While people who want to bump their topic regularly can be annoying if they don't even wait for it to leave first few topics in the list, there are times when the ability to bump a topic is needed.
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huh ive never seen that happen before, but maybe thats because the thread makers end up bumping them P:
you make a good point!
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It may help if there was one more forum category "Forum Giveaways" or some such name for trains and whatnot.
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I don't really see any harm to it, as long as you aren't spamming. Personally I don't intentionally bump often, I usually just reply to users as I usually do.
Also, I do whatever I want because I don't give a shit about being blacklisted for petty reasons - if some people feel the need to blacklist me for doing nothing wrong on the forum, then so be it, as I don't care to interact (including entering giveaways) with them. I've quickly learned you can't please everyone, so it's not worth trying.
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This forum has the most lax bump-spam policy of any forum I've ever visited, to an annoying degree. Users here get away with spamming "Bump!" on 20 topics in 2 minutes, and even a handful of users who do it to bump threads they don't like down the page. I've even seen one user bumping "dead" threads to that end. I typically end up hiding threads that get spammed to death like that, just to make the forums readable.
I would love to see that changed, but I have no solution to the issue, outside of believing that people should be courteous and respectful to other forum users and not spam threads non-stop.
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I dunno, this is a pretty goddamned important thread but if I hadn't bumped it a lot it would have gotten buried.
https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/WNqf0/my-heart-goes-out-to-puerto-rico-in-the-aftermath-of-hurricane-marianow-with-gas
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I don't think a bump a day is what he's talking about. I'd hardly say you spammed that thread.
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My point is more that genuinely important topics don't get bumped whilst bs about "the owners of the forums" and "what jap cartoon with prepubescent children should I fap to watch next in my basement?" do.
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Plenty of "important thread"s get bumped, with or without self-bumping. My point was that it should solely be up to the majority to determine what's important not also the thread creator because the thread creator will always be biased to their own thread (I'm sure there's some people out there who think raising awareness to flat earth theory is important and would want to bump that a bunch) and also because if the majority bumped it, they want it and would like to see it at the top. The majority's actions best show what the majority want, not the acts of one person.
I hope this doesn't offend you. You make a good point that maybe the majority of users won't always bump the things your passionate about as much as you'd like, but at the end of the day this is a community. You can share whatever topic you like, but it's popularity should just be left to the community when it determines how much the community sees it. : P
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I will be honest, I did not read all of that.
It just pisses me off that even when people had GAs going on that thread and were asked to bump it that they were too lazy/stupid/selfish to bother.Then again, SG is made up of beggars and leeches for the most part.
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Well this is a giveaway site, it'd be hard not to attract that crowd haha^^
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When I don't bump my own GA thread, it gets washed away by bump-spamming threads because no one bumped mine. They "MAY" hate / BL me for not giving them a chance to join, because I didn't make it public. If I bump my thread to the top and let more people to join it, everyone's happy, including myself. It's just a gift for the forum. What are the disadvantages for being generous / interacting with the community?
Time to get back to my opinion.
Most people don't check discussions frequently including me, for many reasons. The best way to get people in touch is to bump the thread and make it appears on the front page. I think it's ok to self-bump as long as thread creator doesn't spam.
Commenting "bump" does bump the thread, also does replying. If self-bumping is not allowed, does that mean thread creator aren't allowed to interact / have some chats with others? I need to go in a short time. I may add more of my thoughts about this.
This the the GA thread I am talking about.
https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/g5vOx/
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As someone who reserves threads sometimes weeks in advance and then slowly edits them till they are ready to go "live", for the love of god please no.
As for replying to people - I reply to everyone just because I think it is a nice thing to do. But I do it in batches so I don't constantly bump it up, but just once in a while it is on the top for a couple of minutes. Might be an idea for you as well.
Also you worry about being blacklisted a little bit too much, people will do that ifyou bump your own there's or not.
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I find it silly that you don't post legitimate responses in fear of being blacklisted. If someone is stupid enough to blacklist you for that, let them.
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rather than killing "bump" feature, why don't make a sort feature by the thread creation time?
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https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/LmgJp/yule-trash
My attempt of not self-bumbing thread for a month... So it can cause issues if there isn't enough traffic or activity is infrequent...
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Firstly, I hope this doesn't come across as whiney:( I thought about it after making a thread myself. Secondly, I feel like this also might be a bit controversial, after some thinking though I feel like this would be for the better. Here's why:
1- If a creator wants to advertise a certain something they have to rely solely on other peoples comments and bumps, which could lead to better giveaways and/or less unpopular advertisement. I understand self-bumping for such reasons isn't something that is abused too much, but it does happen.
(MY BIGGEST REASON) 2- Right now thread creators are deterred from commenting and replying on their own threads too much for risk of coming across as an attention-seeker and getting blacklisted for it. In my recent thread there is a lot of people I'd like to reply to (especially to return their Christmas wishes!) but I'd rather not spam the forum with my thread, and risk; again, coming across the wrong way. I can't guarantee it but I'm pretty sure I've been blacklisted for this in the past:(
3- While there is already a deterrent for people not to spam self-bumps (being blacklisted), there is also an incentive to bump your own thread as much as possible without crossing that threshold into "okay this guys spamming" territory; and that's because with the right words or opinions in said thread, come whitelists.
Please share any pros or cons you can add to this!
When thinking of why this wouldn't be a good idea, the biggest reason I've come up with is that certain threads could die a lot quicker or be forgotten about once it gets to the bottom of the page, or even onto page 2+. But I don't think this would happen too much if the quality of the thread or it's giveaways is good enough, and I believe whether it dies or not shouldn't be up to the thread creator anyway, because that would always be in his or her interest. To ensure it doesn't die fast, creating better quality threads or giveaways is incentivised.
Also, as a small note: I tried searching to see if this thread has been made before, but only found one similar which is Yirg's suggestion for there to be an option for all to comment on a thread without bumping it. That would be a bigger change but would also fix this issue. If this exact suggestion has been made before, I apologize. It probably has, but I couldn't find one. At least recently:)
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