cultural appropriation is a time honored tradition after all
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Not here for the giveaways, but I started reading your text and got stuck around the birthday thing. A good friend of mine from university is a Buddhist, and I remember that he talked about Buddha's birthday being a religious observance day every spring, not December 25:th.
I decided to do some quick checking on those you suggest have a birthday on December 25:th that have easily accessible information about what time of year they were born:
Krishna:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krishna
" Krishna's birthday is celebrated every year by Hindus on Janmashtami according to the lunisolar Hindu calendar, which falls in late August or early September of the Gregorian calendar"
Zarathustra (Zoroaster) - Khordad Sal:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khordad_Sal
https://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/pakistan/zoroaster-birthday
Late August
and I double checked if I remembered correctly about Buddha's birthday:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddha%27s_Birthday
April or May.
So none of these have their birthday on December 25:th, not even close.
Sorry if I'm bringing the mood down, I liked the enthusiasm of the post, but some information evaluation could be in place.
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Removed! I appreciate it! I could explain conclusions I have, but the internet is bigger than my opinions. It has to do with historical vs. mythical, and the actual way years went by with some of these birthdays and how calendars were set up significantly differently than today's style we now know, rather than a 365 ¼ setup.
I suppose the main thing is: since we have no birth certificates, it's not really possible to even begin to argue against what you've added.
Removed my segment, since I do not have very reliable sources on each individual reasoning behind some of the remaining ones, and I'll go on what you've got listed there too, since it's the closest thing I have at the moment.
Too bad we cannot figure out their true birthdays though, if in fact they even had a birthday to begin with, in many cases. I doubt any are too accurate, in all honesty. ;)
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This is to celebrate the coming of the first midwinter tradition, where it all evolves from.
Happy Saturnalia!
Since everything evolves, and is borrowed from other things, I thought it would be nice to enlighten people about the true origins of most "Midwinter" festivities. It is, afterall, the solstices that influenced much of what happened with daily living. The sun was the most crucial element - aka "the Light", the giver of "Life eternal" etc. Anyway, on the 17th of December Saturnalia begins.
The stars were integral in many societies. One of the first Good vs. Evil diety (Ahura Mazda was for good, and Angra Mainyu was for bad)-driven religious groups, the Zorastrians, where probably one of the key influences - and in fact probably the original three wise men of the Bible, if in fact such events occurred around the starting of the Age of Pisces, the fish... the symbol so often used in association with Jesus himself... as homage to the representation of this "New Age", in tale.
When plants will begin to create food again for the masses on a larger scale, and what influenced these ancient tales the tribal wise men would tell to the youth, in a metaphorical way to explain the passing of the season of death - winter, into the next year of life, with more sunlight, and the growth of the new plants. The trees were put into homes (evergreen types) as a way of "good magic" to promote a prosperous new year to come. The idea was symbolic that life will endure through the hardships of winter and a new year would be plentiful! I love the aspect there - and the parallels continue with many-a-tradition. And of course tales of others that started such traditions. It always goes way back, and even the pagans and/or ancient mesopotamian beliefs and values were repeated ad infinitum. This is my gesture of goodwill - the creation of the Fantasia!
Not in a demeaning way, but in rememberance of truth, and the first and origin of things, as far as we can trace them... as to why it is what is today. It's so amazing these traditions continue in so many beautifully evolved forms. I appreciate all celebrations that use this as their origin, or even if this was not the origin, something before that prompted this great Saturnalia...
We have revised our fantasy to create new and beautiful tales. Ones that inspire love, compassion, peace and kindness. At the end of the day, no matter the beliefs, if this is what results, then I call it ALL a successful story, no matter what one wants to use as truth or fantasy. Everything in the end is an illusion. We only perceive because we have neurons that fire off, and our intellect is limited by this perception, creating our ideas and beliefs about things - but just because we have our facts - that does not necessarily facilitate truth on the whole. We are always limited by our understanding. The more we know, the less we realize we really do know. The phrase is true, in my beliefs and perceptions of what I have learned over time in my own battles and searches for more understanding - and finding more "origins".
I'll close in saying.... Happy Saturnalia! Whether you celebrate one "holiday" or another, this is what it really is about. So, Happy Holidays, and enjoy the Saturnalia! The universe is much bigger than our beliefs... and at the end of the day, it's always going to be Saturnalia as long as the earth is here, and as long as the stars move as they do, and as long as our planets continue to encircle and rotate in the customary ways it happens in our own galaxy and solar system.
Spread joy, happiness, love and peace wherever you go. Whether it is during Saturnalia, or any time of year. The beauty of life is: every day can be a holiday, if we will it to be so in our minds. Create your ideal paradise where you stand right here and right now, and make that decision to live every day is though it is exactly that. Your wildest dreams will come true - beyond what you can comprehend or expect!
We can WIN! Every day!
As Descartes eloquently puts it: "Cogito, ergo sum!" - or... "I think, therefore I am!" Will it, and let it become! ^____^
Happy Holidays everyone. As with Saturnalia tradition: the first is the last, and the last, the first.
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Please don't forget bumping! It's good for your karma.
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