Oh no, that's really sad to hear.i know that a lot of fans of the sports and colleagues mourn him right now. 🙏🏻 I pray for strength and endurance during these turbulent times for his family and friends.
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I'm saddened... a true legend, may they Rest in peace
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Only a few days ago they aired the Hulkamania A-Team episode and now this? :(
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Damn, both of them were legends. Me and my brother used to watch it like crazy. When we were kids, we though it was real.. Good old time as they say...
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"The uploader has not made this available in your country." What? I'd assume they're trying to avoid being struck by US copyright but it's posted by the WWE?
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Well, young people probably don't know about him.
He was active in Japan in the 1980s.
I don't know what he's been up to since returning to the US because it hasn't been reported in the news.
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Long story short. He used the "n-word" without license and bunch of politically correct losers started to sperg out.
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Thanks for the additional information.
To be honest, I vaguely knew that something had happened.🤫
However, in the East, it is taboo to “beat the dead with a whip.”
When remembering the deceased, we generally talk about their good qualities.
There is no need to imitate the aspects we consider negative.
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However, in the East, it is taboo to “beat the dead with a whip.”
That taboo also exists in the West (albeit not that specific expression), but personally, I don't agree with it. After all, everyone dies; no reason to downplay bad people's negative impacts just because they did something everyone will do.
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Absolutely agree.
That being said I makes sense only in case of major things. Like being Hitler.
Saying that you are happy because of somebody's death only because he said "Nigger" on a sex tape where he is having sex with his friends wife, where all was staged by that friend and they were supposed to not publish it, and he later won lawsuit against them. All in all - this is all celebrities weir stuff. Picking up on this is quite petty. And thats one of the reasons why people are fed up with cancel culture :)
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I wasn't aware of a sex tape or the comments, but when i still see so many old 80-90's movies on tv, or songs where that word is said also still and people don't make a fuss about those, cancel culture can also be very selective.
Like with our country how certain singers get fully cancelled just being accused of something but not even gone to trial yet and others who did something equal or worse (and found guilty in court) get away more easy.
We used to live in a world where you could say hey i don't like or condone what you did, but i still respect you as a human or i just go on with my life and not almost be happy saying someone is dead and won't be missed.
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I hope that you still live in the place you describe, and that I too will live in such a place.
I think we used to observe the kind of Earth you are talking about.
There is no need to reply to the following comment. It's just a long rant.
Nowadays, acts of erasing data that does not fit with past alterations or values have become prominent since last year.
The act of not accepting different answers and trying to converge on a single answer is something that people in democratic countries have disliked, such as totalitarianism and dictatorship, but it is also a strange reality that there are people who unconsciously do this and do not question it.
Individual freedom, rights, and human rights are absent, diversity is nonexistent, and the rules set by those in power become the truth of the moment.
Without redistribution, the economy becomes inefficient, and the poor become even hungrier.
Even if there are other countries where this is the reality, people only pay attention to what is happening around them.
They dislike the lack of quick decisions and the abundance of fake news, so they blindly believe in certain people and push forward as if it were a religion.
There's also the vague term “decline in the quality of democracy,” I suppose.
Furthermore, in today's society, there is no time to consult with others. Therefore, it is possible to ask search engines and AI instead, but it seems that there is no time to even listen to their opinions.
Furthermore, humans are strange beings who find it difficult to consult with other humans.
That reminds me of a familiar historical pattern – the transition from the Roman Republic to the Roman Empire is well-known.
I used to think that people were just making bad jokes about these things, but now it feels like they are becoming a reality, and I feel sad.
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I understand you being sad but that never changes the outcome, and yes it has become a sad decade, sad era to live in momentarily and i don't see it changing to something good anytime soon (if ever).
Hug.
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His racism wasn't staged. Hogan was a deeply racist person. As well as homophobic and an adulterer. The backlash for his terrible words and actions were well-deserved. People who are strongly against cancel culture are really against consequences for their actions. They think they should be able to say or do anything they want and not have to suffer consequences. That's not how life works.
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If we were to apply that criteria to every person in show business... we would end up without entertainment at all. Oh wait - I forgot that I haven't seen good movie made in US in years. So maybe you are actually doing that :)
And how do you judge if he was racist or not? Mr T vouched for him so he's clean in my book :)
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That's only how racism works on TV.
In real life, it's rarely so cut and dry. In actual practice, there are no lack for racist people who have some friends that are of the race the person hates. Those friends are the exception not the norm. If they're even the exception rather than simply a deception. Additionally, racism isn't something people have the switch turned "on" for all the time. They would never be able to live in this world if it was all or nothing every moment of every day.
An actual understanding of how racism really works isn't something most people have a good grasp of. Which in and of itself makes sense since racism is not rational, and trying to apply reason or consistency to it is a mistake but also is a logical tendency non-hateful/normal people have when thinking about the topic.
TL:DR: Hulk Hogan was a proud racist who happened to have a couple black friends.
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proud racist who happened to have a couple black friends
Sure.
An actual understanding of how racism really works isn't something most people have a good grasp of.
You are expert on that.
That's only how racism works on TV. (...) In real life (...)
Did you met him in real life? Have you got any proof that he was a raicst? And by proof I don't mean "things they said about him i TV".
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If you had just Googled it or looked it up on YT, you'd already know there are at least two recordings of him admitting he is racist, lol. Feel free to do so. You won't, but you should.
And yes, I explained how racism actually works, at least here in the States where Hulk is from. You not wanting to accept that is of no consequence.
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Your previous government supported race based hiring practices. But you complain that celebrity said some words. Yup. You sure are expert on racism.
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Which previous government? We've had the same government for longer than you and I have been alive.
And also, your assertion literally makes zero sense, lol. Now that you have been confronted with the truth from Hulk's own mouth, you have shifted the goalpost, lol. Because truth isn't really what you're interested in. You're just here to argue and toss around the N word like some edgy child.
https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/qXKMdnE
Good luck with that.
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You're just here to argue
So are you.
toss around the N word like some edgy child
I know that you are scared of words. I'll use it 2 times more and Adolf Hitler will come out of my mirror.
Play on words is all you are good at. And you know exactly what I meant by "previous govermnent". Don't play fool.
you have shifted the goalpost
Where exactly?
My goalposts are the same:
- It's petty to pick up on guy who just died.
- His cancelation was for petty reasons.
- You all guys who came here to tell that you are happy and call him "POS" are disgusting hypocrites.
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Being a hypocrite would imply that our stance is different with different racists. Which it's not.
If you consider being opposed to racists and racism to be petty, that's a problem with you, not us.
If you're implying that we've lived under racist regimes such as the current Trump regime, then that would actually bolster the fact that we understand racism on a greater level than someone who lives in a vacuum somewhere in Eastern Europe.
People who die are defined by their legacy. Which in Hulk's case is one filled with racism, adultery, betrayal, and more besides. It's not petty. It's just facts. Why mourn a POS. I'm not going to cry when Trump or Netenyahoo or Putin die either. In fact, they'll receive an even more blistering rebuke of their lives. When Stalin died, nobody cried. Actually, people were terrified to even check on him because if his door was closed and someone opened it, they faced execution. As such, they didn't even find his body for a while after he had died. When Hitler died, nobody complained when people cheered. While Hulk isn't on their level, he was definitively a POS and gets what he gets.
What you are really presenting is that you embrace racism and don't think people should be held accountable for theirs. And if that's not true, you are really bad at your own PR.
Cheers!
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racist regimes such as the current Trump regime
All clear. Your TDS is not my problem. I'll just point out out that hiring practices based on race is racism. And that's not problem with Trump administration, but with previous one. And you call him racist. Yup. That is hypocrisy in my book.
Also wtf. Stailin? Hitler? You seriously put Hulk Hogan in the same bag? Time to stop myself from wasting my time by talking with you.
Cheers!
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Hahahahaha!
Oh man. That response was true comedy. Thanks for the laugh.
Good luck out there, far away from the States.
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What criteria? Not being a racist, homophobic asshole who cheats on his wife? That's not a high bar to clear. Would you hire someone who believes you're inferior or discriminates against you or sleeps with your wife?
How to judge if he was racist? Well besides him admitting he's racist and saying racist shit all the time including about his daughter's boyfriend who was black, he was also recorded calling his son who was in jail and they were talking about religion and reincarnation and he commented that he hoped neither of them would return as black men. So yea I think it's pretty clear.
It's too bad Mr. T doesn't have higher standards or more self-respect. Or maybe he's just ignorant of what Hogan has said or done. But celebrities tend to not want to rock the boat when talking about other celebrities.
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That's not a high bar to clear.
For Hollywood? If we would ban all sinners from making entertainment we would end up without entertainment :) Yes - that's unrealistically high bar to clear. Especially that part about cheating. I have that weird feeling that when it comes to having sex - actors in general have no standards at all. And guess what. I don't care. I can enjoy a movie or spectacle like wrestling even if actor is a piece of shit. It's some weird double morality. Actor you don't like should be banned from public space just because he said some words, while actor you like should get a free pass.
It's too bad Mr. T doesn't have higher standards or more self-respect.
Or maybe he knows him personally and worked with him. You judge him because of some carefully selected informations that were fed to you, so you can think the only "right thing". Also I love how only reason to treat him as racist is what he said (also obviously out of context). Tell me what racist stuff he actually did.
But celebrities tend to not want to rock the boat when talking about other celebrities.
That's logical. Whole community is rotten to the core. Imagine that somebody who was badmouthed is leaking some juicy stuff as revenge.
I'm not trying to convince you that Hulk Hogan was a good person. I'm just saying that he was cancelled for petty reasons and all that hate he is receiving is not really justified.
On the bright side it's good to see true colors of some people. A guy dies and suddenly the most empathetic and just people start celebrating his death.
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If we were to apply that criteria to every person in show business... we would end up without entertainment at all
The backlash to what's going on in Palestine proves otherwise.
Oh wait - I forgot that I haven't seen good movie made in US in years.
Then you're watching the wrong films.
So maybe you are actually doing that :)
Trump is the literal President.
And how do you judge if he was racist or not? Mr T vouched for him so he's clean in my book :)
He himself said so.
A comment entirely made up of bollocks, guess that's sort of an achievement. Congrats.
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The backlash to what's going on in Palestine proves otherwise.
So NOW it's about Palestine? Soon I will be scared to open my fridge.
Then you're watching the wrong films.
Recomend me one good movie from the hollywood made in last 5 years.
Trump is the literal President.
Aaaaand? You have TDS? I get it. Seek professional help.
He himself said so.
And also appologized. People back then didn't knew that it's bad to admit to what they are acused of and appologise. How could he know that appology will be used against him. Also I suppose that it's completelly normal for a racist to work with black people and have black friends.
A comment entirely made up of bollocks, guess that's sort of an achievement. Congrats.
It's weird to congratullate yourself.
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Not speaking ill of the dead is thing where I'm from (to an extent)
Howerver, Hulk Hogan is a public figure that did insert himself in current and onging politics, by being part of Trump election campaign and speaking publiclly about his views since then. So his words and actions still effect people that are alive today. He has spoken multiple times about immigration, regardless of opinions, it is a very relevent subject in America and other parts of the world.
If all the comments here were about how 'nice' he was or the wholesome moments in his career/life; due to how vocal his political views are, it would leave people to believe his views are widely accepted, which could have an impact on how they challenge their own views.
Now I'm not going to get into the details that I'm aware about. Only replying to this thread at all because the comment above implying the only things Hulk Hogan has done wrong is casually use the N-word is ignoring the context of him using the N-word and implies that's the only this he has done. If you want to know more, I'm sure the information is out there. If you don't, that's fair.
No shame towards anyone that feels a sense of loss over his passing. The guy did impact some peoples lives positively and gave them fond memories, I have no judgement over anyone that feels sorrow or only wants to know him for wreastling and that show about the boat.
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I don't think you intend to attack me personally based on differences in religious views or cultural values regarding death.
However, your reply to me could be interpreted that way, which confuses me.
Rather than replying to me about what kind of person he was, wouldn't it be better to write about it elsewhere?
There are multiple ways of looking at things, so it's inevitable that people see things differently.
I have already mentioned my stance on the deceased, so you have probably read it and there is nothing more to say.
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My apologies if it came across as personal. It was not my intention to attack you or change your opinions on the dead. I tried to pick my words carefully but apparently didn't choose them carefully enough.
It's unfortunate your original comment got you dragged into this conversation when it seemed like it came from only good intentions.
Still the conversation and the line about it being a taboo seemed a relevent place to reply to. I do not mean to imply you are judging people for breakign tabboo, only stating to the thread that people have their reasons for doing so in this thread. I apologise for piggy backing of your comment for something that was aimed at the thread in general.
Part of my comment, I hope was clearly not aimed at you, was just explaining the reasoning for my comment being posted at all.
It's not my intention to get into the details of him as a person, I tried to keep it to minimum. Maybe I could have been more vague.
And again, no shame for having fond memories of him as an actor and the more wholesome aspects of his personality.
Here is a picture of cats as an apology.
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Perhaps we both lacked the words to express ourselves.
I hope things will get better, and I hope the deceased can rest in peace. 🤴🍵🍘🍪☕👽️
Anyway, the day when cats rule the earth is coming soon.🌍️🐈️
Perhaps all of humanity would be happier if they remained slaves to cats.
But between you and me, I'm allergic to dog and cat hair, so even though I like them, getting close to them is hell...
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this is why i hate him
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Yep... Stopping myself from saying more since he is dead now anyway.
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+1
...nevertheless, he also was a human being and surely had friends and family who loved him, so its still sad news, as is any death.
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This is a terrible week for me to have a birthday, first Ozzy Osbourne, now Hulk Hogan...
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And with this our childhood dies a little bit more... RIP Hogan, thanks for the memories.
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Ozzy, Malcolm and now Terry all in the same week. I grew up watching/listening to them all, RIP.
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Damn,Scott Hall died three years ago and now Hogan is gone too.Hopefully Kevin Nash won't follow anytime soon 😢
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this guy was a hero to me when i was a kid watching thunder in paradise. i really liked that show.
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I remember when he was a WWF legend 😅I never really watched wrestling when it changed names… I guess I’m showing my age.
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He was a household name in my childhood, even here in Germany with no connection or interest into wrestling. But I wasn't exactly impressed of what he became, to put it kindly.
The contrast to Ozzy Osbourne is quite remarkable actually. Also recently deceased, much less well known as a person in my childhood. And the superficial first impression was all around negative.
And while I later never watched his show or got to know him better, he very much managed to build some positive legacy to remember him by.
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I have never been a fan of reality TV, and never watched any of them, but I made an exception for The Osbournes. It was pure unscripted comedy. I only watched it here and there, but it was so funny.
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im actually so sad he died, i share his birthday and ive always loved the guy, prob the only wrestler i know by name honestly. i loved all the movies he has been in though. i wasnt a fan of terry tho, he seemed cringe lol. but hulk was great
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a person of actual worth died today
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I never watched wrestling so I only knew him from those movies he appeared on back in the day, and reading the other comments it seems like he became a fairly questionable figure over the years. So... idk, rip?
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"Hulk Hogan, one of the most popular professional wrestlers of all-time who helped make WWE a juggernaut, has died, according to TMZ.
He was 71.
A “cardiac arrest” call was placed and medics were sent to Hogan’s home in Clearwater, Fla, TMZ reports.
He was stretchered into an ambulance.
Hogan, real name Terry Bollea, rose to prominence in the 1980s with his All-American “Hulkamania” persona and helped transform WWE, then known as the WWF, into a national powerhouse.
Born in Augusta, Ga. in 1953, Hogan had two children, Brooke and Nick, with his first wife, Linda."
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