+1 This. Most games won't need more than 8GB. Some games are shittily optimized, though, so eventually you'll regret not getting more RAM. For example, if you happen to have an AMD GPU and 8GB RAM, Just Cause 3 will crash while playing. I upgraded to 12GB, now I have no crashes.
For now it's good. Just keep in mind that eventually you'll need to boost your memory a bit.
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You should be just fine unless your going for max FPS.I am going to go out on a limb here and say no on that.
The CPU is fine more ram may help but is not needed for most games should be fine though some will do better with more ram but again that is for maxing out games.I would suggest though to get more ram unless you plan to upgrade in the near future then save that money for DDR4.
Have fun with the 1070 as it is a nice 1440p light 4K gamer and well if you want high fps for 1080p this will do just fine.
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The 1070 is over kill for 1080p in pretty much all games at MAX.If higher FPS is your target though a good choice.The more ram will only be needed if you want to do modding or play games that actually run better with more RAM.Those are rare right now but i do know Forza Horizion plays best on 12gb or more.
The future of gaming will use more but when and how much is still up in the air since even the Xbox Scorpio will only max out at 12gb and that is shared.16GB is just nice for heaving modding of games like Skyrim and multitasking,streaming.I would only upgrade if you really have the extra income and can save money easy for a later upgrade of the CPU and ect.
SSD is a nice upgrade option but they are still high priced due to issues with supplies.They also do not add much to gaming unless you hate waiting a few seconds longer for most games to load.I would check to see if the games you play really can get a good boost from an SSD.If you can wait the price should come down even more as I see they have dropped some the last couple months.
If I really was you I would save that money for an upgrade or a better monitor?Though you do mention downscaled so are you playing on higher rez monitor or tv?
I have enjoyed the 1070 I just bought for now I do 1080p until I decided which route to go on the monitor end of things,I have been thinking of 21:9,but also 1440p..I also have an ITX build with a Intel 6400 and that is not faster then my 2500k over clocked due to lower clock and it handles the 1070 just fine.I just wanted something that used less power and dumped less heat into my ITX build so the 6400 fit that bill.
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Well this would be a fine choice and I would get 16gb of ram if you can swing it and buy them in a kit of 2x8gb for best success as kits are matched to work together.You can mix ram and may not have issues but it's better to avoid such issues by buying a new kit as even if you buy the same brand they still might not play nice together.
The 1070 should serve no problems for max for most games at 1080p depending on how high you want your fps as some like Metro are still demanding enough that they do not hit 100+ fps on max.I would say most of it depends on your FPS target of how maxed you can go.AA and Shadows I usually never max them out unless I can without a huge hit to FPS.
Also do not go for higher clocked ram unless it is at a deal as it will provide little to no real world gains for gaming at least cost vs gains if any.This is just imo you can buy any speed you want.
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Tbh GTX 1070 would be too hightech for that spec :(
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I entered your components on pcpartpicker.com It appears that you can.
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If your monitor is 1080p 60Hz, there is absolutely no reason for you to go for the 1070. I'd rather get an SSD or 8 more gigs of RAM, or best case scenario both.
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There is :P if its Counter Strike or some other FPS.
But I do agree about SSD, I am looking to buy one, maybe 850 evo.
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If you are playing on a 60 Hz screen there is none, whether it's in CS or any other competitive game. Your monitor won't be able to process the amount of frames your card outputs, so there is no difference whether it's 61 or 500.
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Yes your monitor will refresh 60 time per second. But try to limit cs @ 60 and @ 500 and tell me you don't feel and see the difference (maybe some tearing but it will still be smoother and with lower input latency).
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No you won't see a difference because there is no difference to be seen. Obviously if you cap it on 60Hz it will drop below 60 from times to times and that's where the tearing comes from, but it won't be smoother as it can't be. Let alone that the 960 can play CS above 144 Hz.
It's like throttling your car when it can only accelerate at a fixed speed/s^2.
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There is a significant difference between running with 60 or 500 fps.
If you card manages somewhat 60 fps, but one expensive frame takes longer than 1/60 seconds the previous frame will be displayed 2/60.
Further even if every frame is calculated in time you see the result from the game state from 1/60 second before. If you have 500fps, you see the result from 1/500 seconds ago.
So, there IS a significant difference. If you notice it or not is a different question.
Additionally running higher fps, ensures less drops below monitor refresh rate.
Edit: Of course depends if you use vsync or tripple buffering.
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If you do not notice the difference, then it's not a significant one.
Obviously the higher your FPS is, the less drops below your monitor refresh rate you'll have. However, as I already said, the 960 is more than capable of outputting 144Hz in competitive games, let alone 60.
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If you do not notice the difference, then it's not a significant one.
I formulated that bad.
There are people that do not notice a difference and there are some that do. So it depends on the person (and on the game). As there are even people not seeing a difference between 60 and 144 Hz.
But yes. For 720p a 960 should be enough unless you want to play newest AAA games in Ultra on 144 Hz.
But since he wants to upgrade his GPU for more fps I guess he ran into trouble somwhere.
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I took cs because I only tested it in 2 game (BF3 is second). But for newer games 960 2GB is not enough for 1080p for ultra/high settings, maybe on medium but that's the reason he is changing his GPU.
My bad, limit it at 100 and at 500 fps, or even better, take 960 and 1070 and test it - big difference. And it's hard to believe that some people can't see and feel the difference.
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I'll say it again, you can't see the difference on 60Hz screen and if you do, it's just a placebo effect. How could you even see it when there is no additional information displayed?
You'll see a difference between the 960 and the 1070 ONLY when the frame rate of the 960 drops below your monitor's refresh rate, which obviously will happen more often on the 960. That's what causes the feel of lagging, that and the FPS lag.
I do not know what games you tested it on and on what setting, but there are countless videos on Youtube displaying a 960 achieving above 80FPS on 1080p Ultra Settings. No one plays CS:GO on ultra settings and if you do, you are doing it wrong. But even if you did, my crappy 270x achieves close to 60FPS on it.
I never said there is no difference in performance between the 960 and 1070 and if anyone did he would be stupid. However, on the 60Hz 720p that he plays on, spending 300$+ to buy a 1070 is stupid, especially when he stated that he is not willing to upgrade his monitor anytime soon.
Long story short, if I was him I would buy an SSD and maybe 8 more gigs of RAM. Wait for the next Gen cards to be released and then buy a new one and a monitor along with it.
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I would too consider SSD if you're going for as low as 500go/1to. It adds considerable performance in interface, software, mainly opening, loadings and transfers, especially with NVme (if your board takes advantage of it).
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im going to upgrade to 1060ti OC 4gb and 16 gb ram,
but i have an intel core i5 6500
About the PSU: i would take a 650w one at least, maybe your pc get hurts if you use 500w
and by the way, why do you have 2 HDD instead 1 HDD and one SSD?
i have only one hdd of 1tb XD
so answering, yes you can but you maybe short the life of some components by my point of view.
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SSD does not gives you more fps, but srsly... get one. You will never want to go back.
Just get a small one for your OS and the most important programs/games and keep both HDDs.
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SSDs are kinda expensive
considering you target a 1070 no, not really
I'd even say you'll get more out of an ssd than a new gpu right now
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8GB of RAM is completely fine for 1080p gaming so far.
That CPU can feed the 1070 just fine.
You should consider getting an SSD also.
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1070 is enough to run anything at 1080p ultra. Some games do need 16gb of ram especially MMOs.
If you want to get HTC Vive for VR then 1080ti is the way to go.
Consider getting an 128gb SSD for some games. Personally I don't care if my PC boots up for 10 seconds or 1 minute so I don't need SSD for that but if you do then go for at least 256gb SSD.
Getting 1070/1080ti will force you to buy better PSU. Consult with people about how much voltage it must have on different lanes and how much wattage you need.
Look at the temperatures of your hardware components and always be careful for them not to go over the recommended temperatures. If they do even though you have cleaned them and have proper cooling(even if it is custom cooling) that could possible mean that the case has bad airflow and you might need one with good air flow.
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I forgot to add that it all depends on what you will be using the PC for. If it is for gaming then take your time and look at benchmarks from different places to decide what card will suit you. Some games run fine even on 1060 and 1070 is overkill for them.
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For a 1080 he needs a new psu. For the 1070 520W is enough, I'm running one on a 500W psu.
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He can run the 1080 on 520W with no OC (as long as it's not some crap PSU). Even on heavy load, his system won't reach anywhere near consuming 500W. People tend to overestimate the amount of power their builds draw.
Would I buy a new one? Probably yes, just to have head room for potential OC in the future, yet it is definitely enough for that card.
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GTX 1070 should be enough. Maybe some extra RAM down the road. Not 100% necessary now though.
However, if you have some extra cash, I highly recommend a SSD. The difference from a HDD to a SSD is massive. Get a 100gb SSD just for games that you play a lot. They're not that expensive.
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GTX 1070, more ram and a cheap SSD would do wonders. I'd get a 128GB SSD if you can (when on a budget). 25GB for the OS and some space for a few games that actually see improvements on SSDs, not a lot actually make a huge difference but for some it's certainly nice.
Don't listen to those saying 1070 is too much. It's not. It's just enough. Because, go figure, games are getting more technically demanding.
So unless you replace the card yearly, the 1070 is in no way more than enough. It's just enough for a sensible upgrade.
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Should work. Consider adding ssd for os and games and such (once you have tried ssd you don't want to go back). Possibly more ram as well.
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It should be totally fine but as most people suggested, you might also want to add another ram or a SSD hard drive for better gaming experience.
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Upgrade priority is that GPU followed by 8 GB more RAM followed by SSD. Should be fine.
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I just happen to have an i5-4460, 8GB of RAM and a GTX 1070 and I can assure you that it's great for 1080p gaming :)
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another stick of ram and then a new GPU because 2GB are not enough nowadays. I'm also considering a 1070 but I would like to wait for vega, thing is I've been waiting for months and I have skipped some really nice dals on 2nd handed 1070s :(
1st is the ram, then think about the card 1070? 580? 480? I would focus on the 8gb of vram. I'm pretty sure 6 (as the ones of the 1060) are going to be useless in a couple of years (same story every single time).
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How exactly is your monitor not compatible with the video card? That doesn't sound right to me
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You can buy a $4 DVI to VGA connector though...
Edit: adapter costs $4 with shipping. New monitor is great, but if you need to save some money:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812423079
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A 1070? Thought you were trying to hook up the 960, my bad. Nice upgrade! =)
The adapter for DVI-D to VGA is lot more expensive apparently, it really isnt worth it. I think in the end you will be happier to upgrade your monitor, 15.6" 720p can be rough to game on as it is. 1080p monitors are 100 or less brand new anymore and 2k/4k are getting cheaper every holiday season.
Keep in mind you can use a cheap LED TV as well, using HDMI. You might be able to pick one up at a yard sale, or in some facebook local garage sale group for around $20. Of course, your mileage will always vary when buying used tvs and monitors. If you can make the room on your desk, you might want 2 monitors/tvs, eventually.. ;)
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