People that tell the others to massive blacklist someone should be punished in some way?
It's going to happen and there's no way to regulate it.
You'll just have to optimistically (and probably unrealistically) believe that people are capable of thinking for themselves and deciding who to blacklist on their own.
I think it's a dick move, but whatever. Shit happens.
Don't let the blacklist rule your life. XD
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no :3
damn, you really love payday soundtrack...
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There are far more GA's on this site than you'll ever be able to spend all your points on regardless, it just doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things...you won't even notice.
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dick move, but i dont think they should get punished.... they can do the fack they want with their time, im amyou are fabulous.
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And ones got to wonder what kind of people would join a "very bad group"
What i see here is someone who joined a random group to boost his wins and gave back region restricted giveaways in return, i wonder if they even needed to be persuaded to BL this guy
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Several of our members have either came to me or came out in public and said they had this guy blacklisted well before this group even existed. All of his story is fabricated and now that the truth is out(few posts below this) he's only going to get blacklisted some more. I told the guy to move on with his life before he made his situation worse and he goes and does this.
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I believe it's against the rules to post trash about somebody, especially telling other users to blacklist/block/report you. You should report it and hope nobody else blacklists you. Seeing as you've given $400 in items on here, it should be clear that it was just an honest mistake.
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It's against the rules to post something like that here, but if they post it in their group or say stuff like that on steam, they're not breaking the rules of this site. They only apply here and not on steam groups (even if they're focused on SG).
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True, but Steam also has a policy about openly trash talking and what not. So either way, they're breaking rules and can get banned from the website they're using.
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But what do they consider "openly?" If it's in chat, then it won't be considered that. Also, they can't get banned here if they break steams rules. It's up to steam to take action (and it's very likely steam doesn't give a shit).
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I believe openly would be considered making posts about it. They can't do anything about Chat rooms, I believe, though it never specified in their terms. And I'm sorry, I meant if they're posting on Steam, their Steam account would get banned, not sure what would happen to their SG though. And if they post it on SG, the mods would probably ban them on here. My bad, should've specified q:
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Ah, makes more sense. But I doubt steam would really care and ban them, especially if they buy games often.
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Don't worry about it too much...
Decent users will unblacklist you with time and the ones who don't, aren't worth your time
Also, almost all of the users you will build a relationship here on SG are nice persons who don't follow orders blindly.
You are better out of that group.
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I guess I'll respond since the integrity of not only myself but my group is being questioned.
OP aggressively messaged me on Steam telling me what rules I need to add to MY group. So I made rules, I told people about the rules. I warned people for a week to stop breaking the rules. And then I told people I was done warning because the rules had been in place for a good amount of time and everyone should be aware of them or get kicked. So skip to a few days later and the VERY first rule I made was broken by the guy who was so aggressive towards me about making rules in the first place. To be consistent I kicked user crazyfaith, who then proceeded to add me on Steam again, first telling me he didn't break any rules. So I explained to him what rule he broke. His story then changed to he skipped reading parts of the rules, which doesn't really effect my decision at all. After I told him I made my final decision he then called me a bunch of expletives on Steam, went to my giveaway recruitment thread and tried arguing with me again, and said something like I'm a horrible human being and karma will get me back etc etc. At this point I'm just laughing because I'm just trying to run a drama free/chill giveaway group and this guy is over there having a heart attack over nothing like it's the end of his world.
Now let me tell you a few things about this user crazyfaith.
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He added at least one of my very good members on his blacklist during his short stay with our group.
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He refused to/didn't want to activate wins from my group so it wouldn't effect his ratio in the group.
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After he gets kicked he exploits the system and continues to enter our giveaways(and win a few) despite having so many bad things to say about us.
Also just for the record, I never told anybody from my group to blacklist this user. If he got blacklisted it was 100% their decisions and I have not mentioned to anybody in my group that they need to blacklist someone. I did however with the backing of SG support tell all my users that if he wins a giveaway he shouldn't be entering in the first place, that you are more than welcome to re-roll and give the game to an actual member, not to someone exploiting the system.
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After he gets kicked he exploits the system and continues to enter our giveaways(and win a few) despite having so many bad things to say about us
If he wins after being kicked from the group, you can ask for a reroll (I think only for the GA's he entered after being kicked).
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I know this now and it's been taken care of. Just wanted to clear some facts up because this user is very shady and should be the last one calling anybody out.
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He is not calling anyone out. He didn't mention what group it was and also didn't mention any users of that group.
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Hmm....would this be considered 'calling out' with names and all and therefore be against the rules?
Even though I understand wanting to show both sides of the issue. You might want to consider that there are better ways of doing that.
hint: The OP did not mention names or groupnames which makes it more clean in the light of sg-forum rules. At least when looking at this thread, unrelated to whatever behaviour happened before as I did not see that and have no place to judge that.
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Protecting the integrity of myself and our members and calling this guy out for straight up lying is worth whatever suspension they want to give me. Life goes on.
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Your choice of course.
Just wanted to make sure you were aware of this / had considered it. :)
Life goes on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b5cyt89NGg
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From my perspective you didn't break any rules. You did everything in your group and it's fine then. (If a bit dickish)
But from your post it seems that you were the "victim" here. Not a victim, but you get what I mean.
And if you didn't call them out for a blacklist spree, then I really don't see the issue here on their side.
What we really need is some actual proof, because this is a "he said, she said" situation.
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I rarely talk to anybody in the group on Steam unless it's to make an announcement or if they ask me something. Out of the 135 members we have I only have 10 or so of them on my friends list so I wasn't going to all of them to get this guy blacklisted. I really have better things to do in life than to hold grudges and his previous and current actions are what got him blacklisted and I have nothing to do with it despite what he claims I did.
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Yeah, right now it's a bit hard to determine who is right here (not that it matters that much).
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You're lying, again. While the time I was in your group I never entered any of your giveaways, I added immediately after you accepting me in your group to thank you and even talked with you telling about one game that i liked, for nothing more then you kicked me for "breaking the rules" and you told me to "move on" so I wonder why after the time i was in your group after give one game away and not enter anything or won anything and you tell me to "move on" that seems fair to you?? why should I have manners after you did, you have no codes neither do I so i enter a few giveaways before sync, oh and btw you are so called "disrespect" is prove in this image or not
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What exactly am I lying about? There are several members from the group who have posted in here saying you're full of shit and that you were on their blacklists prior to being kicked and that I never told any of them to put you on their blacklist. I'm sorry that you can't get over it even a week later but seriously stop making yourself out to be the victim. Nothing you have said up to this point has been true.
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You are lying - you put a region restricted giveaway in that group although it was against it's rules. You also didn't sync your steam profile after getting kicked and kept on joining our giveaways. You won mine after being kicked and joined before that, you got rerolled and I made sure of that, no worries.
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read my last comment, I clarify about enter the giveaways I even said in the post I skipped the tiny part of locked giveaways I explained all that in the last comment
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it doesn't justify your actions, you are still cheating
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Cheating??? what about not even have codes and just kick people after giveaway somethinig to the group and be kicked just like that for putting locked-region games, even add to the admin and told them thx for the invite to his group even talk to him about a game I liked and then kick and delete someone just like that? do that seems right? do that seems have human codes? No, so at least I tried to enter a few giveaways and try to get something after what he did, what I have to do, nothing and be silent and not saying anything about him after he kicked me like that?
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Rules are rules, you proved him that he was right about you.
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By the way - I can bet that this thread will get you more blacklists than from our group. You asked for it.
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Just saying that I had you on my blacklist even before this event. I guess you have been acting like that before.
Also breadman said to reroll if you have won one of the group's giveaways. He has never mentioned blacklisting. Other group members had this idea.
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There's really not much of a technical way to stop this type of behaviour.
You can't somehow stop massive blacklisting. As this might occur for a good reason (such as someone being a complete bastard in a thread and everyone reading it blacklisting them).
It's a community-problem and should be dealt with in the community (through words for example).
Either that or completely ignored since having haters dictate your life and mood wouldn't be much fun.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7HiMv5jygk)
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Happened to me with the most active group of SG... Guess what? I survived pretty well.
Eventually people that knew me, knew also that I didn't deserve BL and that's all I care about.
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You don't need a reason to blacklist (or whitelist) people.
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added to whitelist to balance you out :P But other than that, I suppose for some people it matters, I know i'm at like 17 people blacklisted me now xD probably hate me for my puzzles lol but i have a very low chance of joining giveaways anyway. (Generally buy anything i want immediately) so for someone like me, its like "meh".
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You can blacklist for no reason. You can kick someone from a group from no reason. The person wanted you to be blacklisted by as many people as possible, the person can say that to you, members don't have to comply though, since it's not trackable. I really don't see a problem with this. It's a dick move for sure, but is it that bad that you should be reported? I'd say no.
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Yup... I'm in group which has certain love/hate relationship with certain prominent member of this commnunity... And not all of us have him on the BL... So really even group following something is not given... And I don't see nothing wrong with witch-hunts in private...
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If you break the Rules, you kinda deserve the Blacklist dont you think? Also i am a member off this group and nobody told me to blacklist you, this is some bs.
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BL will not block You to use Steamgifts. It's just prevent you from use THIS USER giveaways.
This is his right to block You (from any reason).
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What Crazyfaith is saying is totally reasonable. Yes, it's true that nobody should care about how many times they got blacklisted. Still, it's not nice to abuse your power. There shouldn't be a guy that goes around and tells everyone to blacklist someone. Isn't the called "calling out"? ;) It's like the people that say "Report this guy". The same thing should exist for "Blacklist this guy" too. Listen to Crazyfaith's plea, cg. :D
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except his story is 100% fabricated and other than me removing him from the group for breaking a rule it's all a complete lie.
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I can't know of course if Crazyfaith is telling the truth, but I agree with the part that massive blacklists shouldn't be allowed.
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Thing is, that's what you claim. But for all we know you're lying (not saying that you are, other people from that group seem to confirm your story). This really is just your word against theirs.
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For the record, you @OP are a liar. This is the announcement of the group:
"I'm just giving notice to everyone that, when I kick someone from the group they can still enter our giveaways up until they either synch their profile or it auto sychs(which is like once a week). I have expressed my displeasure about this to SG support because people I kicked several days ago are still entering and winning giveaways for a group they aren't in.
So to counter this I will be posting names of recent people I kicked. If any of these people have won a giveaway or win one later on you have Steamgifts permission as well as mine to re-roll to give the game to someone who is actually in the group.
- Massmerize - kicked for leeching
- DeadKaneiNote - kicked for leeching
- crazyfaith - kicked for breaking rules, disrespecting me, not marking a won giveaway from our group as received, and blacklisting members of the group.
Again, if any of those players has won a recent giveaway of yours or wins one in the future you are encouraged to re-roll for a new winner. I will have to provide you with a screenshot proving that I kicked said ex-member and then SG support will accept your re-roll request.
Thanks!"
The Admin never told anyone to blacklist you.
You, on the other hand, broke the rules of our group, disrespected the Admin, did not mark won giveaways from our group as received and even blacklisted members of the group.
If any of the members blacklisted you, it is simply because you did all of the above. Imo, you will end up in many many more blacklists with your attitude cause, as a matter of fact, no one likes liars.
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I just put that picture in my last commentary, he's crearly encouraging the group to blacklist me, not directally with those words but he's saying that. When did I respect the admin tell me, read my last comment,is proven in that picture
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he clearly did not encourage the group to blacklist you. The announcement does not mention anything about blacklists nor it has been edited. Moreover, from the comments we can see in the image you posted above, breadman never suggested anyone to blacklist you. You jump to that conclusion by your own. Thus you are the liar and breadman is telling the truth.
By fact, only guilty people lie. Just saying.
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Why south america people alyways make us look like this... Pd: I blacklisted you (OP) For your rate. Thanks.
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If it is a consolation, the SA people still have a better reputation than the CIS ones…
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No...it's not.. maybe its my way of thinking...but omg..7 months..155 wins...and only 22 gifts send...i really couldn't believe people can live with that rates...i would delete my account from here before getting that rate :S... I know is personal preference...but... :S... Thats why i preffer not entering a lot of gives :D.
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Okay I'm sorry I don't have much money to give in games, besides have you check the real c.v.? I mean put bundles and full games are completely opposite
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now say sorry for leeching games from groups and joining group giveaways after being kicked, cheater
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LOL LOL I put games after i enter the group and got kicked without entering anything that wasn't the reason for the kick and now you tell me a leecher haha
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and here you go again with your lies - you entered my giveaway right away and won it, fortunetaly for us it ended after you got kicked out and I was able to reroll it, you still keep on joining them although you are not in our group, that is cheating
now you get what you deserve - blacklists
I'm done talking to you now.
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after he kicked me I enter the giveaways if you read what I put you should know that
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Look..i don't have a lot of money to give away games at moment. but thats why sometimes i don't enter giveaways... You enter enter enter... I feel like a scammer wining al lot of games and sending nothing...Is my way of thinking, im not telling what you do is bad.I don't like it, but is my problem ,not yours :p.
For me is a lot...wining 150 games... but you have 650+ games in your library...so...
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Not the first time we hear about it. Some people are just massive pricks. Sad, but since they up the majority of the human race, you kinda get used to it.
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Nah. Punishing the following sheep? Who can blame the mindless for that.
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Gladly there are mindless sheep only online. In real life everyone thinks for themself.
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Since you can't actually do something about people being dicks and go full retarded puppets of a even greater retard, simply blacklist people that blacklisted you.
Off-topic: Who's that in your profile picture? Looks damn cute.
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Okay I will explain my situation we know somone can blacklist another user for whatever reason but what if an user tell the others to blacklist someone for X reason? In my case I got kicked from a steam group for putting locked region games "breaking the rules" and the admin of that group told the members to blacklist me because he wanted to, I think this is abusing his power and in someway should be punished, I mean why this people can abuse the system of blacklisting and tell the others what to do? what do you think this should be punished in someway or not?
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