Only today i realized some people with a very high ratio of winning and nonsensically thanking every giveaway game can be bots (you can call me feeble minded if you will). I want to give games without level restrictions.Any hints or tips?

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some ideas

up the level requirement.
more level = less people will enter. easier to check who is a bot or who is using a script to autoenter/autocomment or ignore descriptions.

put a description like "reply with X or get blacklisted", "don't reply with thanks".
after the GA is done, blacklist all people that didn't follow your rules and also those that didn't reply. keep doing this till you fill your blacklist.

make invite only GAs in the forums.
put the URL in an image or a puzzle so bots searching the forums can't enter them.

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@level requirement - add the thing that most of bots are lvl 0/1 alts so higher levels are much less likely to be bots anyway ;) Noone will like to invest into something he can get caught on and banned for losing all his investment.

@using descriptions+BL - won't work, because BL has limited slots. Don't want to repeat myself so: http://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/wZB9s/how-can-i-avoidblock-bots-from-entering-giveaways#65K4cBj

@invite only GAs - it's ultra easy to make a bot that will look through newly created discussions and enter GAs posted in these. Even hidden GAs as bot will probably be looking through the source code anyway - then will just pull all strings with /giveaway/ in them, and enter these GAs.

@puzzles - using puzzles is always a good solution :D:

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yeah, the invite-only ga was linked to the puzzle suggestion.

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wait, there's a limited number to blacklist? what?! :o

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yup, 1000 users is maximum you can blacklist,

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you know that because you reached the limit ( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)
did you unlock the blacklist achievement?

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nope, because cg said so ;p

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and then what? if entrant don't answer you won't be granted reroll anyway. And if you want to blacklist everyone who doesn't follow you will run out of BL slots after 1-2 GAs ;p http://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/wZB9s/how-can-i-avoidblock-bots-from-entering-giveaways#65K4cBj

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I've always assumed that's why people make puzzles with questions like "What's my real name?" and such.

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What is CAPTCHA for....?
Do bots get past CAPTCHAs?

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some of them do get pass some of captchas - yes, but the real problem is that captchas are actually punishing towards all normal users - you enter tens of GAs per day, so you would have to enter tens of captchas. you'd spent significantly more time on entering. It would be even more discouraging for not-hardcore users who don't spend a lot time on the site, just log in for a short while once a day to quickly enter GAs and leave - they would have to spend much more time doing this and it would disencourage them. And ad-revenue-wise they are more important than hardcore users - because there's much more of them, which means much more unique viiews on ads, while hardcore user seeing same ad over again will grant much less money.

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private ga
blakclist them thankers then

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private GA - unless it's hidden beside puzzle it's not bot-safe. Bots can easilly scan forums for even hidden GAs,

blacklist - after 1-2 public GAs you will run out of BL slots: http://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/wZB9s/how-can-i-avoidblock-bots-from-entering-giveaways#65K4cBj

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Blacklist bots. If people enter and they paste the same generic comment in every GA, it's easy to tell. It's actually not a huge issue, believe it or not (except, perhaps, those bots who don't comment, but meh, at least they don't thank-spam). You could do what I do, and do whitelist/blacklist giveaways (eg. comment with a cat picture and whitelist, comment generic thanks and blacklist) and then just invite whitelisters to giveaways without restrictions. I have a pretty sizable whitelist, mostly built that way, and it demolishes my blacklist (at least twice the size) which was also built that way. Since you can whitelist even level 0's, it's inclusive (though, in my experience, very few 0's comment anyway).

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Or you can get rid of some bots with the way of Zomby2D, he just made a 'fake' giveaway with huge sign :" DO NOT ENTER" and blacklist those who enter.

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and will run out of BL slots in no time :D:

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I know, when I asked him he said he has like only half of the free space left :D

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Keep it at the source, if you know what I mean (apparently most don't)

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I have never won anything :( and there are bots great didn't know that!

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Registered: 22 hours ago. Prepare for a long wait, dude.
facepalm

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It's hard to please everyone.
Some people don't want you to thank for the giveaway, because if you say "thanks" then obviously your're a bot.
For others if you don't thank the giveaway then you are a bot.

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Does anyone really have any issues with users who enter giveaways without thanking? I think it's only about winner not showing gratitude.

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To be honest that's an incredibly weak arguement. How hard is to write something semi-creative instead of thanks?
" Thank you, I've seen my friend playing this game, got me intrested, thanks for the givaway" or something like that takes like 10 seconds to write. It's really not hard to write something relevant to user's name, profile pic, game banner, giveaway level, description, game genre, previous good experiences with the game/prequels or sequels/ the genre. Or even opening the users's profile and checking lastly played games and asking him/her about how he liked it, what would he recommend or something like that.
It's so phenomenally easy to write something creative that proves you're not scripting...

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I'm not saying it's hard to write something "semi-creative"

I'm just pointing the fact that some people presume others are bots just for "thanking" or no thanking at all. This presumption is weak as well.

Of course a bit of gratitude is always welcome but not everyone has the same principles or thinks the same way. I think all this matter just increases paranoia, since when I'm giving away games for free I shouldn't expect much in return.

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You should create a bot/script/whatever to blacklist the "thank you" people with high ratio that enters in one of yours giveaways!
Then BAM! Just do one good giveaway run for a month and you'll got all of them. :}

or you just puzzle (the regular solvable ones, not like the latest ones)

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My nickname is always the answer.

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